The Ash/John incident: a complete rundown

On Saturday afternoon Ashley and John were ejected from the Big Brother house for breaking house rules. Here is a rundown of exactly what happened.

The incident
At approximately 4.30am Saturday morning Camilla went to John and Ashley’s bed. While there John held down Camilla while Ashley knelt over her, apparently slapping her in the face with his penis. At one stage John was holding Camilla down by her head. The incident went to air over the internet streams and several users recorded screen captures which are now circulating the internet. At the time Camilla was quoted as saying “thats not cool”.

Later that afternoon Ashley and John were called to the diary room and remained there for several hours. During this time the other housemates were led outside for the planned Rogue Traders concert, which was set up by the spa deck. While the concert took place Ashley and John were removed from the house by security guards via the diary room. Housemates were only informed the two had been ejected and would not be returning later in the evening.

The aftermath
Late Saturday afternoon/early evening the official Big Brother website posted a notice that Ashley and John had been removed for “a breach of the rules”. No details were provided in the notice, other than the producers would not be commenting further on what they described a “serious matter”. Early media reports stated the two had been removed from the house but did not give any details.

Shortly after forum users on the official website posted details of the Saturday morning incident, and the posts were promptly removed. Both the official website and Behindbigbrother.com saw a substantial increase in web traffic – so much so that BBBA was unavailable for many users. Moderators on the official website put up a notice warning that talk of the incidents surrounding Ashley and John’s departure was not allowed. This did not stop forum users who continued to discuss what happened. At 9.30pm the official forums were shut down completely to stop the discussion. In 2003 the official forums were shut down after the “Belindagate” incident and did not return until 2005.

BBBA posted an initial story on the sexual assault incident Saturday evening, and this has been carried through onto early Sunday newspaper articles.

At the time of posting this article, it is not known what will happen on Sunday night’s eviction, or how the incident will be explained to audiences. It is possible producers will introduce two new housemates to replace Ashley and John in the future.

The future of the show
The incident has put the future of Big Brother Australia into question. Rumours were already floating on Saturday night that Channel 10 are planning to axe Big Brother completely, and that tonight’s eviction will not take place.

MP Trish Draper has already used the incident to again attack the show, calling for it to be taken off air immediately – even though the incident was not actually broadcast on television. She has commented to News Ltd. newspapers the show has “gone too far”.

Despite this, Minister for Communications Helen Coonan has said the government will not be taking any action against producers or Channel 10. The Queensland Police have also said they are taking no action at this time.

The heavy handed response from Big Brother comes after the political pressure which arose from a similar incident last year where housemate Michael rubbed himself on Gianna while giving her a massage.

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Day 66 Uplate

11:42pm: Out at the spa. Jamie, John, David, Camilla and Ashley are there. Talking about farts. Lots of laughs. Jamie mentions a fart when Dino was still in the house. Housemates continue to mention the funniest moments they’ve had in the house. Dave says that Dani’s ‘walk’ was quite funny. Ashley remembers that he got a fine for doing basically nothing once. Jamie remembers that and laughs as well. Camilla says she was laughing so much one night out the pack with Dave, she actually wet herself. David says that Big Brother made him laugh heaps one day in the diary room asking to put a topic in the Wednesday dinner topics. Comm break.

11:58pm: Still out at the spa. Talking about Mickey I think. Camilla says that she had some issues with Mikey. Camilla says she can’t wait to see Dino, although see says that he did give her more grief than they needed. Perry comes out and joins the convo. Perry wants to know if Michael took all of the toothbrushes. Perry says she is constapated. She talks about not being on the pill for years to Dave. Perry says her mum went through depression at about 40. Dave talks about a study that was released just prior to them coming into the house. We cut back to Jamie and Camilla’s convo. Jamie is complaining about Rob saying that when it came to Wednesday night dinners he was a lot more nice than he was actually feeling. Jamie says that he knew Rob felt more about certain issues. Jamie says that he walked away from a few of the discussions feeling really mad due to some of Michael’s comments. Comm break.

12:10am: Housemates are trying to figure out the date. Shouldn’t be that hard seeing it’s Jamie’s birthday. Mike cuts in, but we get back their pretty quickly. Perry is trying to figure out where everyone is from, which states. Jamie wonders if people can tell a WA accent compared to a Melbourne accent. They all agree you can’t. Perry tells Jamie that he is very well spoken. Jamie explains that his parents are from the UK. Perry says she sounds like a true blue aussie, but she is greek. Perry says that no one else in her family really speaks like she does, but she loves her accent. Jamie says that he wouldn’t want to change his education, but he would’ve liked to have gone to a guy/girl school. Perry says she sent her child to a private school. Perry says she’s not too crash hot on religion, she’s happy for anyone to believe in anything. She says she enjoys the greek culture etc. Comm break.

12:25am: Jamie is talking about going to hospital when he was really sick once. John is talking about a cross country school run they had. He says that he did this massive course and he came 10th, and they said to him “Congratulations, your through to regionals!”. John says he did a no show at the regionals. Cut to the sauna with Camilla and Dave. Camilla says that she thinks she doesn’t start confrontations, but rather she bites. She says she doesn’t really have anyone to fight with in here though. Dave wonders whether Perry makes her bite and perhaps Camilla doesn’t want to take her on. Camilla says she is happy to take her on. Camilla takes a cold shower because she is so hot. Back outside now. Jamie is talking about his mates or something. He goes onto talk about one of his mates who he says is really really really smart, but he also loves going out and drinking. Jamie says that the friend and his brother get on really well. Jamie says that last year they seemed to get up late everyday and drink beer over at the mates place. Comm break.

12:44am: In the bedroom with Dave and Perry. Perry says she is not missing the phone at all. Dave says he hates it, the phone. Dave says that this experience lets you re assess what you want out of life. Dave says he’ll be much more focused when he gets out of here. He says that this has been the best thinking time for him. Perry says that when she gets out of here a lot of crap is going to come out. Jamie and Ash are in the bathroom talking about some movie. Dave comes in and they wonder what BB is doing with the lights still being on. They talk about all the questions they were asked today in the diary room. They talk about this by saying “we’re not allowed to discuss those questions are we?” Comm break.

12:57am: Claire has woken up and is now talking to Perry and Dave in the bedroom. They talk about walkie talkies and how they used to use them. Perry and Dave says that they both still use them at work. Jamie, Ash and John are hanging out in the bathroom. Jamie is saying that if you look into one of the mirrors in a certain direction, you can see both sides of your face. Jamie heads into the bedroom, but we stay in the bathroom. We can hear Krystal wish him a Happy Birthday. Talking about different kicking types in the AFL. John says that if he kicks a torpedo he gets dragged. Comm break.

1:16am: Ash, Jamie and John are in the bathroom. But we go into the bedroom and Krystal is saying that she plans to buy something in Bateman’s Bay soon and get the first home buyers grant etc. Perry says thats really good. Camilla is talking about a job interview she didn’t get, and she says that she agrees she wasn’t the right person for the job, and she understands that, but she wasn’t treated right. Comm break.

1:25am: In the bedroom again. Then back to the bathroom. Boys are talking about boxing V kickboxing. Big Brother wishes Jamie a “Happy Birthday”. Everyone comes into the bathroom and wishes him well. Jamie wants to go for a victory lap round the garden. Seems to have livened up the room a bit however. Jamie does a little dance in the kitchen by himself, then comes back to the bedroom. Back to the bathroom he goes where his boys are still. Jamie says he’s 23. John wonders if it’s the longest he’s been away from family. Jamie says it is, and Ashley agrees apart from his sister. John says that they are 2/3 into Big Brother now. John wonders if they have heard the female BB, but Ash and Jamie haven’t. Camilla comes and says goodnight, then tells them that the lights are out. The boys think about going to bed. Jamie says he didn’t wear the headband at any of the auditions. Comm break.

1:42am: Boys still in the bathroom, figuring out when they will come out in regards to AFL finals and Spring Racing etc etc. Jamie says that he is closer to Claire and Krystal since Rob has gone. Talking about Darren and how they all think they have been a bit quieter since the latest batch have entered the house. Ashley says that they are in such a routine in this house. Ashley wonders what all the questions in the diary room today was about, but they don’t really expand on that because they can’t talk about it. Jamie wonders how his mates have changed while he’s been away from the house. Comm break.

Don’t go back to the house, and at 1:59am with the lights out, Dreamworld says goodnight.

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Day 64

8.41am – John and Gaelan are feeding the animals and letting them walk around for a bit. In the house Krystal is lying in bed, feeling sore after her fall last night. Her breast is still really sore, and it feels like its falling down. Outside John is having fun petting the sheep, but the finds the sheep is getting a little too relaxed and pees on his hand. Gaelan starts laughing and John runs to wash off his hand.

In the rewards room Claire is having a bath and Rob sits by her with their breakfast.

Jamie is walking around the house singing commercial music – this is a rule break. Big Brother annouces he must wash all the windows in the garden. Jamie doesn’t seem to care and just says “thanks buddy”. He gets a $5000 fine for calling BB “buddy”. Perry needs to be filled in on what the fine is for… David says its for disrespecting Big Brother. Perry says you shouldn’t disrespect anyone.

11.58am – Gaelan comes to the diary room. Big Brother asks how Krystal is – he says she’s in a little bit of pain. BB asks how this is making him feel – he says he feels for her but its not affecting his relationship with her – its strengthening it and he wants to spend time helping her.

Outside while Jamie washes the windows Jamie says if he was working harder to earn the money in the house would he be more respectful to Big Brother. Jamie says its difficult to answer because its not relevant to his personality – he has never worked hard for money – he doesn’t really care about it – he spends it on anything. Perry asks how he gets along if he doesn’t care about money. Jamie says thats why he never has clothes, and is struggling. Perry doesn’t think he is struggling. Jamie says he pretty much gets by on a string… and he doesn’t care about it. Camilla attempts to give a final answer for Jamie, but Perry isn’t impressed and calls her the “voice from behind”. Camilla says sorry but she just wanted to contribute to the conversation.

Jamie gives his final answer: if he had a million dollars he wouldn’t care about $5000… he would only worry when it got down to his last $20 and he’d think “crap, I’ve gotta buy a six pack for my mates”.

Perry: How old are you Jamie?

Jamie: 23… on Wednesday.

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1.15pm – Lauren comments to Camilla if Jamie’s standoffish attitude lately is his normal behaviour. Camilla says the fact that he is around new people is making it worse… plus when he nominated he takes it as a rejection from the rest of the housemates. Camilla and Lauren both agree you have to just deal with it because its part of the game.

Jamie is singing commercial music again. He’s called to the diary room.

BB: It appears the message that you’re not allowed to sing commercial music in the Big Brother house is getting through. You have plenty of time to think about what you have done, while you are scrubbing the hot tub deck with a toothbrush.

This time Darren needs filled in on the rules about singing. Jamie sits down and scrubs the deck. Perry says it will teach him the value of a dollar.

The boys all talk around the deck. Ashley says “you know what I’m sick off… Perry’s life”. Ashley, Jamie and John all agree they are sick of Perry’s philosophies and life experience. John is especially sick of the obvious logical things Perry says, like “you only live once, you only live once”. Meanwhile Perry is talking to the other housemates about her experiences with mortgages.

Lauren is in the sauna on her own. She doesn’t look too happy, and puts a black headband on her head ala-Jamie.

Lauren: Like hi, like my name is Jamie.. like. I’m too cool to talk to intruders like. Like yeah.. like wow.

5.17pm – Darren and David are cooking and measuring ingredients. Perry comes in and tells them what the proportions should be. The phrase “six or one, twelve or nothing” turns the house into confusion… especially Darren who says it doesn’t make sense.. and then tries to explain what it means. Perry doens’t want to hear it and they start yelling at each other. Perry tells Darren to behave.

Krystal is doing Claire’s makeup in the bedroom. Perry comes in and says “good on you Krystal!”. They think Claire’s makeup looks good.

Darren tells David that Perry never lets people explain things, and it really annoys him. The conversation stops when Perry comes back into the living room to do some cleaning. Darren suggests she could beat the rug outside with tbe boys, but Perry says no, she won’t do that. Darren has had enough and just stops trying to talk to her. David tries to back up Darren but Perry kills the conversation:

Perry: No! What part do you not understand? The N or the O!?

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7.32pm – It’s time to go… Lauren. Perry keeps asking “was that real?”. Lauren gives everyone a hug and she leaves quite quickly. Perry screams “I’m saved! I’m in! The oldie!”. Rob reminds everyone there is another eviction coming up. Perry tells all the “kids” to be careful because things will now change. She high-fives Darren congratulations on staying.

Camilla: I really liked Lauren

Perry: So you’re saying you don’t like us?

Camilla: No, I’m allowed to mourn the loss of a friend

Perry: Oh.. yeah of course.

It’s time to go… Rob. Rob thanks everyone and says he’s enjoyed his journey in every step of the way. After he has left Krystal, Camilla and Claire all hug each other. Jamie has forgotten about Rob already and reminds everyone its his birthday this Wednesday, jumping around in excitement.

Later in the bedroom Claire tells Jamie she is now moving into his bed with him, if thats ok. It is. Camilla says she just needs to get out of the bedroom the intruders are in. In the kitchen Darren comments it will be interesting how Perry reacts now that Rob is gone.. because they were very close. Talk of sleeping arrangements continues in the bedroom: Camilla says Darren is very “touchy feely” and she doesn’t really like that when she’s in bed with him. Also, Perry is so loud and she needs a break from that. “Its such a small bedroom for two big personalities”.

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10.43pm – Rob’s goodbye message is playing. Rob says Jamie and John are the naughty boys of the house but no one should change to make other people happy and thats what he learnt from his run ins with Jamie. Rob says he learnt a lot from David and hopefully vice versa – he has been tought a very manly quality – to step up to the plate whenever there is a problem. Camilla has welcomed David in and taking him in and befriended him and loved him and put up with his moods. Rob will miss her and the way she ruffles feathers in the house. He thanks them all for the time in the house and will see them all one day very very soon. The housemates all clap.

Later in the bedroom Darren says he was going to move out of his bedroom but didn’t want to offend Camilla. Camilla however has already decided she will be moving, and tells him that Perry is annoying her. “I don’t want to sound … if you moved out and I had my own bed it would be easier”. Darren is a little taken back and says she shouldn’t have offered him a place to sleep with her in the first place then. Camilla explains there are too many big personalities in that bedroom and she feels suffocated. Camilla thinks that if both of them moved it would be too obvious.

Darren: Why don’t Perry come out and sleep with Jamie?

The housemates all try to get involved but Camilla tells them she and Darren will sort it out on their own. Things get confusing for Darren as to why this is happening, and Camilla says its so she has her own space.

Darren raises his voice, saying he’s not taking it as a peronal attack but wants to know why exactly she’s moving away. Camilla explains again but Darren is confused. Camilla leaves the bedroom and Darren screams out something censored. In the living room Krystal tells Camilla they should consult Jamie because the person moving will be sleeping in his bed and maybe he doesn’t want to sleep with a stranger. Jamie says yes, he would rather sleep with Camilla. She goes back into the bedroom and resolves things with Darren.

Perry: It’s childish behaviour honestly, it is, isn’t it Jamie?

Jamie: Uh yeah I’m staying out of it

Perry: I’m staying out of it too. I don’t have time for it Jamie… and as we grow we learn that… you don’t have time for it.

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Day 62 Uplate

10:44pm: Claire and Rob are in the rewards room. Claire is talking about a holiday or an oversea’s work mission she was on. She says she stayed with tribes in Borneo. She says that the person that looked over her was not the leader, as his father was still alive, so he was second in charge. She says she went through Borneo with a UK backpacker or something. Claire and the UK person took the second in charge out to somewhere we he had never been and they took a boat out off the island and the leader had to go back to the beach because he was too spaced out by the underwater world. Claire says she still writes to the leader, and his son, because the leader wanted Claire to marry his son. Over in the house we have Perry and Lauren sitting at the table. Lauren wonders if Perry has received her pills yet. Perry says that she hasn’t yet. Lauren says it’s really weird not having Krystal in the house. Apparently she is injured from FNL. Dave joins the convo and they have a conversation about crusts. Back over to the rewards room, Claire says she has a list of countries she still wants to go to. Rob tells her she is going to China. Rob reads the details of the trip. Claire says she has never heard of the sponser, and she hopes thats it’s ok. She wonders if it’ll be a tour or not. Comm break.

10:57pm: Krystal is back in the house. Darren and Dave are talking at the kitchen table. Darren says he wishes he would have been in the house from the word go. Very strange looks between the two. Darren wants to go to the diary room. John and Jamie are wanting to go to the diary room to get more beer. Dave calls out to them that Darren is offering his virginity to get more beer. Lauren says that BB only let them bring one lip gloss into the house, but she has two. Mike cuts in. Comm break.

11:11pm: Krystal has a bandage on her chin. She seems upset, and seems to think she has burst one of her implants. She isn’t quite sure at the moment. They keep talking about her implants for the entire two minutes we cross to the house. Krystal says that she was hoping they realised that she was injured during FNL when she got hurt. It must have taken them a while. Comm break.

11:20pm: Boys are talking AFL at the table. Talking about a Brownlow medallist who didn’t really deserve it. Actually there are on stools, and it’s only John, Jamie and Ashley. John can’t believe that this person won a brownlow when Ablett and Carey didn’t. We cut to the rewards room where they are throwing food in the air and trying to catch it with their mouth. Lots of laughs had. They keep doing this for ages. Now it’s a new game to see how long each of their food can roll? It’s something to do with fortune cookies anyway, because Rob asks for a fortune interval. Rob says he can’t wait for the finale night when they all go out and they can say whatever they want. Rob really wants to have a ‘chin wag’ with all the Big Brother voices as well. Comm break.

11:34pm: Back into the kitchen. Jamie is talking to Ashley and John. Jamie is talking about a movie called “Sexy Beast.” Big Brother tells housemates the storeroom is now open. Apparently there is more beer been delivered. Camilla wonders how many have been given. Hard to work out when half have been taken. There is 25 still there, so Camilla says there must be more than 2 each. Perry is waiting to enter the diary room, has been there for a while now. Claire is sitting at the table. Gaelan is trying to cheer up Krystal. Claire says the worst case sceniaro for Krystal is a bit of plastic surgury and they can fix it up. Krystal says she has stitches in her chin. Perry still is waiting for the diary room, and she wonders whether BB wants them to stockpile or drink all the alcohol in one night. Ashley and Camilla both say they give the alcohol the night they want them to drink it, and hope they don’t stockpile because then they might get messy. Comm break.

11:44pm: Camilla is talking to Jamie and saying that she didn’t like something he did. Jamie says that no one should take offence at anything he says when he is down and in one of his moods. Big Brother calls David to the diary room. Looks like they are going to follow him in. He sits down and waits for BB. BB tells him that there are coloured envelopes in the housemates, and he should take them and gather all the housemates in the living room. David asks if he can go to the bathroom, but BB says no! He comes back out and tells everyone to gather on the couch. Some people say “wait till we’re drunk to play truth or dare!” David reads the rules out. David explains that each person they have to do their own truth and dares, not someone elses. Comm break.

11:55pm: John is up on the truth or dare task. He has nothing in his envelope. BB calls him to the diary room. BB tells him that he can’t ask other people if they nominated another person. John says it was a joke. They cut it off there! Dreamworld says goodnight at 11:56pm

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Day 63

11.37am – Lauren and Camilla are in the bedroom. Lauren say she reckons the intruders will be put up to a public vote very soon and one or two of them are going to go. Camilla says the HMs barely know them yet. They both agree it sucks.

In the rewards room Rob and Claire discuss the intruders. Rob says Lauren is interesting but is finding it hard to fit in. Claire thinks she’s a cross between Danielle and Jade, to which Rob really agrees. They think Lauren is slightly girly-girl but has that Jade-like outsiderness that is making it hard for her in the house. Rob think Krystal is taking Lauren under her wing lately and Perry has also taken a liking to Lauren.

In the bedroom Camilla talks evictions with Perry, while they paint each others toes. Perry tells her to stay positive, and think of it as a journey – the eviction is just anothe chapter of the book. Perry says she wants to be a young kid again, and tells the others they need to bring the young kid out of her. In the kitchen Perry asks John if he thinks she’s very kid-like… he does.. he say she’s energetic and did things like jumping in the pool clothed. Perry laughs and says she wants to have fun in the house.

BB calls all housemates to the lounge. They are to be tested on this weeks task. One by one they are to be called to the diary room and indentify two fragrances each. They must guess 16 out of 20 correctly to pass the task. The housemates all say “oooh” but assure themselves they will pass. Ashley is first – he smells fragrances off the armpits of two maniquens in the diary room. Each of the housemates all take their turns. Gaelen is disgusted at John’s colone.

7.21pm – The results of the task are in. The housemates correctly guessed 17 and have passed the task. Housemates all through the house cheer and clap. They sing “well done”.

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9.21pm – Housemates are all outside. Some of the housemates are having a pillow fight. It’s mainly the boys plus Perry and Lauren. The final two are Jamie and Darren – they battle it out quite hard, and Lauren tells them to lay off. Darren needs to take one last swipe at Jamie even though Jamie has dropped his pillow. Darren is the winner, and Perry says “the baby won”.

Jamie goes to the bedroom and Camilla stops him and laughs about how extreme Darren was going before. Jamie say its good sportsmanship to hand the pillow back at the end, but Darren didn’t do anything. Jamie sits down on a bed and tells John it was unfair how Darren kept hitting him after he had his pillow knocked away.

11.18pm – Darren and David are in the hammocks. Darren can feel that Jamie and John don’t like him, and he knows it. David asks how he would deal with it on the outside. Darren says on the outside he wouldn’t be friends with them at all. He’s only been in the house three days, they should get over it – “I beat them”.

In the sauna the original boys are all discussing the intruders. Jamie says they have thrown in very rigid people. The boys are unsure about Lauren – they say she’s a closed book. When talk moves onto Darren the boys mention he was a bit hard tonight but John says “he means well, he means well”. John then sits back and looks unsure about what he just said.

Outside Darren asks David how the nominations work on Mondays, and David answers. Darren then asks about the three point twist – David explains the system, but also mentions he took three points off Ashley in the past. Big Brother annouces a $5000 fine. David says “what the hell!?”. David says “Big Brother everyone knows it”. He is called to the diary room. Inside David is awarded a strike. He doesn’t look happy as Big Brother proceeds to tell him off.

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Day 62

10.52pm Krystal has returned from the diary room where she had 9 stitches on her chin after her fall during the Friday night games. She is not happy about them, and gets teary. Gaelan comforts her. In the bedroom Krystal explains her breast feels very sore and she’s scared one of her implants may have ruptured. She’s also scared she’ll have a scar on her chin.

11.49pm – David has a letter from Big Brother. The rules have changed for tonight’s truth or dare – it is now truth AND dare.. they must answer their own truths and take their own dares. Rob is very unhappy and shouts “no!”. John is called to the diary room. He is told he is not permitted to talk about nominations, and his question for truth of dare tonight was asking if a HM had nominated him. This is against the rules and he is to be punished. He must sort 3000 coloured matchsticks in the punishment room.

David’s dare was to tell each housemate four things you dislike about them.

To Darren he says:
– You are too good looking
– You are too straight
– You are too young
– You are too close

Claire:
– You are a vegetarian
– Your competitiveness took away the rewards room from him tonight
– Your attractiveness makes me question myself (the housemates all laugh)
– Your constant birdwatching. Claire laughs, throwing her head back, but she bangs it against a vase right behind her.

Perry:
– You speak way too much
– You don’t listen when some one else is speaking, he adds she could have helped her team tonight if she had kept going … Perry buts in saying “oh grow up for heavens sake I had a bloody go”. The housemates all laugh.
– You can’t take criticism!

Krystal’s dare was directed at Claire, and it was to share a passionate kiss with another female housemate. Krystal volunteers she wants to kiss Claire, but Claire says no. Krystal is annoyed and walks away.

Ashley’s dare was a choice: eat raw sardines, drink toilet water or lick the floor. He chooses to lick the floor.

Gaelans dare was to brown-eye every housemate. He jumps around the living room with his pants off pushing his bum at each other.

Perry’s dare was to jump into the pool with her clothes on. She does it.

1.22am – Housemates are talking about Claire’s refusal to kiss Krystal during truth or dare. It really has Camilla up in arms. Lauren says that maybe she’s just never had an experience like that and she’s nervous. Camilla is annoyed because everyone babys Claire in the house. Lauren loiters around the kitchen bench but can’t come up with anything to say. David butts in asking Camilla if she thinks the three dislikes he said tonight were less harsh than his real dislikes. She does think so – she thinks he was just saying things to get through it. She thinks he has some more geniune dislikes that he hasn’t made public. David comments he really dislikes Claire because she’s vegetarian. Camilla repeats that she thinks Claire really should have just gone through with the dare and kissed Krystal. Gaelan thinks she could have made a little effort.

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