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Following on from the earlier "Detroit Dies" post/link



Only took a Generation ... or three+ generations of welfarism (which translates to the basically the same amount of time)

regarDS

I am no expert on US politics or their economy however I've read a bit and seen a few documentaries on Detroit and its decay.

As far as I can ascertain, the main reason for Detroits decline in a nutshell. Detroit was basically a giant single industrial town, the car companies laid people off and when jobs go people go. When unemployment is high, crime increases. It's not the car companies fault, automation of plants is natural progress, it's not the local or state governments fault that humans cannot compete with robots. Detroit is no different to many other mining town or any town based on manufacturing the trend is the same. Detroit is just on a larger scale. Detroit was was never going to be sustainable in the long term.
 
I'd rather be reading your views on that than be shown pictures of people that neither you nor I know nor care about.

regarDS

We will have to go one step at a time.

I am not a huge fan of singling out and attacking the person. I believe politics is about parties, I am not a fan of making it all about the "leader", it is a team effort and any party whether that be Liberal, Labor or Bob Katter is run by a team, it is a bus which is driven by a bunch of co drivers and I don't believe any party is driven solely by one person. So to personalise these attacks on PM Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott or Flossy Green Party is a little bonkers to me.

Okay, so back to my homework, I have learned Christine Milne is the leader of the Greens.

Just to break it up with some comic relief, I was laying in bed with my partner last night and I said "do you know who Christine Milne is..." his response, "isn't she Big Andy Milnes wife...?". After googling I learned it is not in fact one of my partners co workers wives...

Ha!

Here we go...

My opinion of the Greens: First and foremost, I am a complete Climate Change non believer which is the basic back bone of the Greens Party Policies, so there is a big cross from me right there. However I do believe we as the human race need to stop shitting where we eat and do what we can to clean ourselves up a bit. I believe pollution will of course have a detrimental effect on our planet and everything in it, but I don’t believe the ocean will rise and drown us all. When it comes to climate change opinions, I really really like Andrew Bolts.

I do like the Greens immigration policies. It has sickened me how the big two parties have made this election about “boat people”. The majority of people who enter into this country “illegally” fly in legally and then overstay their visa. The people who risk their lives coming in by boat are without doubt our most vulnerable and need to be greeted with compassion and understanding not by hatred and racism. It infuriates me how it is often reported “there were no boats under Howard…”, well of course there weren't! You try and organise an elaborate escape in the middle of a fucking war, it is near impossible! Look at Vietnam, the boat people came in masses AFTER the war, in the middle of the bang bang, you are ducking for cover, it is only once everything starts to settle that you can make the contacts you need and pay all the money you have, to do your best to get your loved ones out. I would like to see more attention on the illegal traffickers who make zillions exploiting those who are the most vulnerable and terrified, whose only desire is to seek a better life. Now before you go all Derspaz, I am not saying we create RefugeeLand with free entry, pony rides and slippery dips, I am saying that the core of the problems is the traffickers, and I believe it would far better serve us to look at them as the law breakers, not those fleeing war torn countries and seeking refuge.

I like their core beliefs, but core beliefs are rainbow and unicorn talk, no party outside the Taliban or the KKK are going to base their beliefs on something that isn't going try and rake in the masses by bleating messages for the greater good. Core beliefs to be are like fluff and bubbles. It is about walking the walk, not talking the talk and I personally don't believe the Greens Party walks the walk.

So to sum it up, I would not be voting Greens for what they stand for, and I was really sad that Labor had to align with them for numbers. I don't think The Greens we see right now would best serve our country if they were in power and I think we saw first hand after the last election that even given a sprinkle of power, they turn into an absolute pain in the arse.

So there you have it. My opinion. I look forward to seeing how you go about tearing it to shreds, just remember, no youtubes.
 
What I also find troubling is the adoration by some here, the Ders brigade.
Not me, his sentence structure in his posts turns me off immediately, the content is just the cherry on top.

"Milney is the absolute heart and soul of the football club and everyone knows how passionate he is and what the football club in particular means to him," Nick Riewoldt told SEN radio.

Birds of a feather flock together. Another day another rapist footballer. Utter scum.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jun/19/stephen-milne-st-kilda-leave-of-absence
Did you see him whinging about how hard it is for him and his family about getting called rapist etc, omg the nerve of him.
 
Not me, his sentence structure in his posts turns me off immediately, the content is just the cherry on top.

Sorceress ! Hello ! To see you lurking out of is good so ! :D

We will have to go one step at a time.

Until you get to 12 ? Well, first up, goodonya for commiting to positions that are at odds with what you really think !

Surely you are well on your way to becoming a REAL actor now. :D

I am not a huge fan of singling out and attacking the person.

Yes, I'm still reading and shall continue to do so. IE, no need to put out such testers. :)

I have learned Christine Milne is the leader of the Greens ... My opinion of the Greens: First and foremost, I am a complete Climate Change non believer which is the basic back bone of the Greens Party Policies, so there is a big cross from me right there.

Eh ? You don't "believe" that the climate changes ? That is a truly amazing level of faith you've got there ... and certainly not one/level I can share for in my view, based upon Real "First Principles" Science is that the climate appears to have always changed, is changing now, and no doubt shall continue to change ... and that mere humanity is merely along for the ride in that respect.

However I do believe we as the human race need to stop shitting where we eat and do what we can to clean ourselves up a bit.

Yeah, I believe that too ... and am also of the firm view that Milne and her greenazis are far more part of the problem than the solution in that regard.

... I don’t believe the ocean will rise and drown us all.

They have before ... and they've also taken the form of vast areas of ice that covered much of various parts the planet that then carved up the place with the massive/sudden run-offs when various ice-dams finally gave way ... and they have also retreated considerably, so much so that the Med was more of a river (if that) than a sea ... etc, etc, etc.

That's the great thing about this creation we get to inhabit for a little while. It can change so dramatically and relatively so quickly. I reckon this is great because it forces us to not be too complacent but rather strive for new ways to live and prosper.

When it comes to climate change opinions, I really really like Andrew Bolts.

("Bolt's", not "Bolts")

Ummmm, got a problem with responding to that, so take your pick from the following:

1) Wow ! What a coincidence ! So do I ! Isn't he the most, yes ?!
2) Who wouldn't !
3) There is such a thing as "over acting" ya know ... as in "never go the full retard"

:)

I do like the Greens immigration policies.

What, as in "who ever can get here, how ever they get here, despite how many drown and/or are dashed to pieces on the rocks by the sea, should be allowed to stay here and forever be supported by Real Tax Payers" ?

The majority of people who enter into this country “illegally” fly in legally and then overstay their visa.

True ... and they are also the ones who have to support themselves as opposed to those who come here for to further the spread and hold of their hateful religion and ideology and all of it sponsored on our (borrowed) coin.

The people who risk their lives coming in by boat are without doubt our most vulnerable ...

No they are not. They are mostly those who should never be allowed a foothold here in the first place.

I would not be voting Greens for what they stand for, and I was really sad that Labor had to align with them for numbers.

AFAIC a very rational and sensible stance and view indeed.

I don't think The Greens we see right now would best serve our country if they were in power and I think we saw first hand after the last election that even given a sprinkle of power, they turn into an absolute pain in the arse.

AFAIC they are extremely deserving of the tag "greenazis".

So there you have it. My opinion. I look forward to seeing how you go about tearing it to shreds, just remember, no youtubes.

What, not even this one ?

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That jollygreenwatchman sure sounds to be one qool frood who knows where their towel is, if you ask me ! :)

As far as I can ascertain, the main reason for Detroits decline in a nutshell. Detroit was basically a giant single industrial town, the car companies laid people off and when jobs go people go. When unemployment is high, crime increases. It's not the car companies fault, automation of plants is natural progress, it's not the local or state governments fault that humans cannot compete with robots.

That's what you come up with when things are "as far as I'm WILLING to ascertain", not "as far as I can ascertain".

The truth is that as welfarism and government hand-outs (including for the actual industries) increased, bludgers and hand-out seekers increased. As the "waa, look after me" types increased, those who actually prefer to do an honest day's work for a fair day's pay, left.

Basically the downhill spiral of increasing left-ardism/welfarism brought more and more of what is death to a community, town, city, people (etc), while simultaneously driving away that which is good for a community, town, city, people (etc).

They have reaped what they have sown and their (literally) decaying city is a testimony to the evil folly that is marxism/socialism/left-ardism.

The trouble is, the left are trying and are going to continue to try the same thing over and over and over and over again in the vain hope that one day their failed upon failed upon failed upon failed ideology might suddenly work.

regarDS
 
Unlike you, I know that I don't know everything. I read books and articles, I watch TV shows and Documentaries and based on the info I have managed to retain I put together opinions based on what I have learnt. Truth be known, I am really not that interested in US politics. Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is.
 
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Yup, great place to film a zombie movie ...

regarDS
 
I read books and articles,

Has that included the highly educational titles "1984" and "Animal Farm" by George Orwell as yet ?

You know, the author who basically gave us the term/phrase "Big Brother" ?

No ? Don't feel like reading that sort of thing ?

No worries, here is the animated movie of Animal Farm for ya !

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Now that you ButOfCourse have watched that, how did it make you feel ?

Oh, and which characters fo you think the likes of Oz unions and marxist sexist racist emily lister fabian socialist Julia Gillard are most like ?

regarDS
 
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Howdy CH ... and your six-gun !

DerS

Yep have to flash that one when my glorious AK-47 needs cleaning. It still has bits of a scrotal sack hanging off it from the last time I used it.

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... and a BTW to CH, I'm not sure I'd even heard of the name "Julia Gillard" half a decade ago as my interest in politics is only a relatively recent thing; it only started mattering to me when the devil's servants somehow managed to trick themselves into "power".



Sadly DerS I'd liked to be proven wrong but you were banging on about Ghoulia then. You haven't changed your tactics either, posting as much inane shit about the lying lesbian slag in quick succession. I still Remember the sausage fest pissing contests with you, Bono, G-Luv, Canay Loopy and 'friends' that used to haunt these threads. Trust me your obsession with closet ginger scrag was alive back then. I just don't understand why you exert so much effort when all politicians are the same and will never change. Ginger bitch isn't anything special.

Wasn't he involved in that St. Kilda Schoolgirl fiasco ?


Yep mudcake the same small dicked piece of shit.

Did you see him whinging about how hard it is for him and his family about getting called rapist etc, omg the nerve of him.


Thankfully not Sorcy. I am so angry that these men even have a nerve to open their mouths let alone try and garner sympathy. We already have enough support for rapists but as usual the victim always has to feel persecuted and isolated and made out to be a liar. It's shocking to hear blase attitudes concerning rape, especially when these rape apologists feel the need to humiliate these victims further by saying she only made it up to get attention. Jimmy Seville is still defended by some for God's sake. It's this sick form of delusional hero worship that has some people convinced that rape cannot be committed by men in the public eye or sporting teams. Wake the fuck up.
 
Sadly DerS I'd liked to be proven wrong but you were banging on about Ghoulia then.

Okay, simply download from The Archives (ummm, I think that is a link to the "politics" archive - there are other archives of other stuff in the same share folder. You're Welcome. :)) and unzip with the magic password of allyourbasearebelongtous and fire up the *.mht files with Internet Explorer and see for yourself once more what year folk woz talking about wot, complete with pretty pictures, tags, sigs, ... and all that jazz. :D

To make it easy for ya, I was banging on in late 2009/early 2010 about KRudd ruining the country. IE, around three years ago ... and it was only near three years ago that the sexist racist misandrist emily lister fabian socialist Julia Gillard did her back-stab thang on KRudd anyway.

For example, please consider this particular pre-biannual-apology post/thread from back when I used to refer to the sexist racist misandrist emily lister fabian socialist Julia Gillard as, somewhat disrespectfully, "Juliar Killard" or similar (something I no longer do nor have done since delivering up the aforementioned apology to the forum), and note the date of it:

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So, hardly "half a decade" unless you are into rounding to the nearest five years.

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Free-will is free-will, choice is choice, sin is sin, forgiveness is forgiveness ... and (for good measure) love is love.

I don't see how the word "cure" could ever be linked to that which essentially is a matter of choice.

It seems plain to me that, in this life, we are free to do whatever we please with our flesh.

Butofcourse, we are also unavoidably choosing the individual consequences both in the present and the future for that which we do, but hey, "our lives, our choice" so we've got nobody to blame but ourselves if the choices we make are more on the poor side ...

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:D

regarDS
 

Oh!

MY!

GOD!

Ha!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

You really do keep forum files!

Oh my Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You must take said screen shot immediately to your psychiatrist and he will explain the 150 levels of nutter that comes with owning a screen shot like that.

Okay Team BBB, we need to put our differences aside and stand together and be united in one voice for our poor, confused, overweight and balding Derspaz.

Let's hold hands and sing.

Oh where oh where has our little spaz gone?
Where oh where can he beeeeeeeee?
With his BBB files and his tin hat on
Oh where, oh where can he be?????


We can only pray to the almighty God of Mint Slice Biscuit that he has gone to get the help he desperately needs.
 
Oh hang on!

It is all making sense now!

The penny has finally dropped. LSCPJIK is his carer.

(not that there is anything wrong with that, people with a mental deficit need to be supported in this country)
 
You really do keep forum files!

Actually, as you already know, the forum keeps copies of forum files and even provides you with a thing called "search" ... though google can often prove to be more efficient at searching these forums than the forum search. shrug.

Also, as you already know, I also keep copies of various forum threads and, just like the forum itself, have made those copies available for even you to download and read.

No screenshots required because the files are actually Microsoft Internet Explored "MHT" format which mean they load and display just like the forum itself.

What is more, unlike the forum, the copies I've provided online can't be so easily edited after the fact by those who would claim to have said things they have not or claim things where said that were not.

I like that for it helps keep the bastards honest. :D

Anyhoo, here again is the link to the archive of "political" type threads: http://sdrv.ms/17pBb7b

The password to unarchive the contents is allyourbasearebelongtous

Would you like the links to the other archives ?

Oh, and why the password ?

Merely a device to thwart google/search engine spiders is all ...

regarDS
 
Actually, as you already know, the forum keeps copies of forum files and even provides you with a thing called "search" ... though google can often prove to be more efficient at searching these forums than the forum search. shrug.

Also, as you already know, I also keep copies of various forum threads and, just like the forum itself, have made those copies available for even you to download and read.

No screenshots required because the files are actually Microsoft Internet Explored "MHT" format which mean they load and display just like the forum itself.

What is more, unlike the forum, the copies I've provided online can't be so easily edited after the fact by those who would claim to have said things they have not or claim things where said that were not.

I like that for it helps keep the bastards honest. :D

Anyhoo, here again is the link to the archive of "political" type threads: http://sdrv.ms/17pBb7b

The password to unarchive the contents is allyourbasearebelongtous

Would you like the links to the other archives ?

Oh, and why the password ?

Merely a device to thwart google/search engine spiders is all ...

regarDS

Ha!

Hahahahahahahahahah!

You seriously make it all sound so normal!

As tempting as your offer is to take a stroll down Archive Lane, I would rather stick a fork in my eye.
 
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