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[Emcee]

It was emphasis

you saw that as shouting lol

The use of capitals in an online setting is usually accepted to mean shouting, kats.
Emphasis is usually made with bolding or italicising or underlining.

Just so you know

 

[bulk]

i dont see anything wrong with the states being in CAPITALS....

i read it as emphasis because all states were in capitals and then SA was in BOLD, which to me was emphasising Kats point about privatisation of prisons in various states...

 

[Emcee]

No one is complaining about states being capitalised?

Soz, I mistook the capitalization of ALL as you shouting at me just saying.

 

[bulk]

ahhh i didnt see the ALL in capitals...

 

[kats]

emcee, not so

no in the way the one word capitalisation was used in that post

this is quite typical, an indept discussion starts on a serious topic and it gets derailed (yet again)

Emcee that wasnt to or at you peace

 

[kats]

TD,

Thats right because you read and understood the post and that word in way it was constructed/intended

 

[kats]

ALL and SA

like I explained above: one word capitalisation is a (one) form of emphasis on/at/in other online discussion/topics (I explained where in an earlier post)

i read it as emphasis because all states were in capitals and then SA was in BOLD, which to me was emphasising Kats point about privatisation of prisons in various states...

 

[Mud Cake]

The use of capitals in an online setting is usually accepted to mean shouting, kats.
Emphasis is usually made with bolding or italicising or underlining.

Just so you know

Not quite.

Shouting on the internet traditionally is TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS... LIKE THIS. peace

 

[Kaf]

At any rate, kats, you are quite right about the privatization of gaols. Though it's not on the same scale as elsewhere, it is already happening here too. It's quite scary that the companies running prisons here are the same international groups running private gaols in the US and elsewhere. It must sometimes seem like a quick fix to a government not wanting to spend more money on infrastructure, but I don't believe justice should be outsourced at all, let alone to an overseas company.

Thanks for the great links. The third one didn't work for me but the other two were really interesting, with many valid points and reminders about the problems we are already facing here from privately run prisons and prison services. The horror story of the death of the elder Mr Ian Ward due to the blistering heat in the back of a transport vehicle here in WA has always sickened me, but to be honest, while reading that the transport was provided by a "contractor", I thought of that as being related to the trend towards privatisation in general, not realizing that the company providing the service was one of the big three prison providers globally. In addition to the innate conflict of interest in this type of privatization, the article links problems in the investigation of Mr Ward's death to the major issue of a lack of public accountability and immunity from FOI legislation by private companies.

fowl an sic - I'd forgotten about that particularly nasty story about the evil judge and unjust imprisonment of adolescents in the US. You're right, that overt rorting and abuse followed from the conflict of interest innate in private prisons.

 

[derspatz]

Still on the subject of prison planet, this gave me both a chuckle and a frown ... the frown being for a dad who chuckled at his daughter's pre-meditated and blatant lying, and the chuckle being for how he was able to catch the conniving little cow out.

"Busting Teenage Partying with a Fluksometer"

News article here: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/322149
which also links to a blog entry here: http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=2381

Laugh about it now, but also know that the Fabian Socialists and Greenazis, totalitarians all, would be all for such tracking/monitoring to be made compulsory, permanently logged, and linked to a great big new taxation system as well.

regarDS

 

[derspatz]

... but I don't believe justice should be outsourced at all, let alone to an overseas company.

Eh ?

Surely it is the courts that dispense justice whereas prisons merely administer punishment and attempted rehabilitation ... along with obviously being somewhere to put people who have abused and forfeited any right to remain in the "normal" community/society ?!

In short, it isn't justice being outsourced.

Anyhoo, another Great Read on our rapidly arriving prison planet, is the following linked review on what is turning out to be a (not shouting) MASSIVE box-office hit (that shall prolly blitz HP and twifaggery combined), that being "The Hunger Games".

See: http://iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_41a23424-79e9-11e1-a731-0019bb2963f4.html

Teens killing teens (nothing new in that. refer to HP and twifaggery ) aside, a positive surely must be that teens are being exposed to (and liking) a story that warns them of the freedom robbing dangers that a Fabian Socialist/Greenazi government are eventually likely to bring upon them.

From the above link:

I had heard my friends discussing the books and listened to their excitement heightening as the premiere’s date crept closer and closer and naturally my curiosity was piqued. My final decision to break down and read the books came when I heard one thing: that they held fundamentally Republican ideals.

The fact that a conservative novel that focused on an overpowering government and the oppression it caused the country’s citizens had garnered so much national attention by such a young age group mystified me. Books as popular as these, I thought, could not possibly hold conservative ideals and still be beloved by so many people in the under-25 age demographic, but as I read through the story I realized my friends were right, these books are very conservative and forewarn of government oppression.

"The Hunger Games" takes place in the future country of Panem, in a post-apocalyptic North America. Panem’s government is the epitome of big, over regulated government.

...

Some may think the government system of Panem is just a hyperbole, something that severe could never happen in our democratic society, but looking at other countries that are oppressed by the government, it does not seem that farfetched. Learning from history it is clear the more power governments maintain the fewer liberties the people reserve. Countless governments overrun by dictators have taught us that. For instance, the Bolsheviks overtook the monarchy of Russia to create the Soviet Union and stripped everyone of their rights. Under the rule of Rev. Josef Tiso, the people of the Slovak Republic also experienced a loss of personal liberties.

President Gerald Ford once said, “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.” This has never been truer than what we are seeing in our country today, this is especially relevant in the Obamacare mandate. The risk of an overly powerful government will become more and more relevant if the country’s leadership continues on the path it is on.

...

In other news, I've got one of these on order.

You can see one being used here (though, WTH is the story with her left hand and the arrow position LOWER and BEHIND a knuckle and finger ? Using it as a rest ? ... oh, and never mind the relationship between where the arrow is pointing and where her eyes are looking).

Yup, not only am I conservative, but sometimes I'm even a traditionalist !

regarDS

 

[derspatz]

Prison Planet++ talked about here: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100148381/global-weirding-the-new-big-lie/

Emphasis, mine.

... the great global warming alarmism Ponzi scheme is looking extremely vulnerable at the moment. Global warming has stopped. There's a growing public backlash against eco-taxes, ugly flickery lightbulbs, higher energy bills, bat chomping eco-crucifixes and all the other paraphernalia of the environmental religion. And unfortunately, as we saw in '44 and '45, what these kind of people do when they get backed into a corner is not surrender but get nastier and more devious.

We've seen this recently in the Fakegate affair. And in Leo Hickman of the Guardian's contemptible "expose" of one of the hitherto anonymous donors of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. And in the Planet Under Pressure comedy conference staged last week by comedy organisations including the Royal Society, mainly in order to try to breathe new life into the stagnant, green-tinged corpse of climate alarmism.

One of the speakers at Planet Under Pressure claimed – in apparent seriousness – that climate scepticism was an illness that needed to be treated.

Scepticism regarding the need for immediate and massive action against carbon emissions is a sickness of societies and individuals which needs to be "treated", according to an Oregon-based professor of "sociology and environmental studies". Professor Kari Norgaard compares the struggle against climate scepticism to that against racism and slavery in the US South.

Prof Norgaard holds a B.S. in biology and a master's and PhD in sociology.

"Over the past ten years I have published and taught in the areas of environmental sociology, gender and environment, race and environment, climate change, sociology of culture, social movements and sociology of emotions," she says.

As Paul Joseph Watson notes at Prison Planet:

The effort to re-brand legitimate scientific dissent as a mental disorder that requires pharmacological or psychological treatment is a frightening glimpse into the Brave New World society climate change alarmists see themselves as ruling over.

Due to the fact that skepticism towards man-made global warming is running at an all time high, and with good reason, rather than admit they have lost the debate, climate change alarmists are instead advocating that their ideological opponents simply be drugged or brainwashed into compliance.

Lysenko, anyone?

... but it could never happen in Oz, let alone within your life time and to your kids, right ?

regarDS

 

[eliza]

Eh ?

Surely it is the courts that dispense justice whereas prisons merely administer punishment and attempted rehabilitation ... along with obviously being somewhere to put people who have abused and forfeited any right to remain in the "normal" community/society ?!


In short, it isn't justice being outsourced.



regarDS

Correct, multiple times a week I reiterate this fact to those I am working with when they attempt to blame staff for their current circumstances. (read incarceration)

 

[derspatz]

The kind of totalitarian government and enslaved society that "The Hunger Games" examples and has long been foretold as occuring just prior to a terrible time of tribulation prior to the intervening return of Jesus, has just been unanimously voted FOR by the Greenazis at their global greens conference/congress/junket @ Dakar.

You can read about it here.

Recorded on April 1st but they ain't foolin !

So informed, who of you shall unashamedly still vote for the watermelon greenazis in the future ?

regarDS

 

[Mud Cake]

nvm..

 

[Kaf]

Eh ?

Surely it is the courts that dispense justice whereas prisons merely administer punishment and attempted rehabilitation ... along with obviously being somewhere to put people who have abused and forfeited any right to remain in the "normal" community/society ?!

In short, it isn't justice being outsourced.

...
regarDS

I understand what you mean. I've noticed that not everyone considers justice to mean the same thing. It is quite often considered to include the punishment that results from breaking rules - some dictionaries define it that way, as does Wikipedia. Others define it more narrowly in the way that you and Eliza are used to.

Regardless, even if I had used the term incorrectly, the principle remains the same. The administration of justice in this country and the punishments given by our justice system should not be outsourced.

 

[eliza]

I understand what you mean. I've noticed that not everyone considers justice to mean the same thing. It is quite often considered to include the punishment that results from breaking rules - some dictionaries define it that way, as does Wikipedia. Others define it more narrowly in the way that you and Eliza are used to.

Kaf, my definition of justice in relation to what we are discussing is not narrow it is fact. Unlike yourself I work in a correctional facility and no person employed in the service is dishing out justice of any kind, it's against the law.

 

[Fowl an Sic]

Kaf, my definition of justice in relation to what we are discussing is not narrow it is fact. Unlike yourself I work in a correctional facility and no person employed in the service is dishing out justice of any kind, it's against the law.

If you aren't "dishing out justice", then you would be against the law, unjust it seems. Without justice, you would be the criminal. Perhaps you are, I don't know, it's not for me to make judgement or serve out justice.

Pity the world isn't big enough still for ostracism. It was a lot cheaper and efficient.

I watched Cool Hand Luke tonight. Luke needed you badly, Eliza.

Boss: Sorry, Luke. I'm just doing my job. You gotta appreciate that.
Luke: Nah - calling it your job don't make it right, Boss.

[youtubevid]4qDt1WDzhmU[/youtubevid]

 

[eliza]

I have no idea what any of the above means lol

 

[Fowl an Sic]

I have no idea what any of the above means lol

"What we got here is... failure to communicate."