Duty of Care Failure? Concerns Over BB Management of Housemate Conflict & Discrimination and Authority.

The daily show isn't made for the people tuned into the live feeds, it's made for a wider audience - largely casual viewers who rely on simplified narrative hooks. Ed getting a strike is a narrative dead-end, whereas a romance - which has implications beyond the two people involved - is much more compelling.

This is really the downside of the live feeds - enabling a certain sect of hardcore viewers to feel entitled to demand what should/shouldn't be shown. It's editorial overreach. There are things that I would have liked to see make the final cut, sure, but I'm not going to write a manifesto of complaints as if there are some human rights violations happening. That energy could be put into more productive real world issues.
 
imsocold said:
The daily show isn't made for the people tuned into the live feeds, it's made for a wider audience - largely casual viewers who rely on simplified narrative hooks. Ed getting a strike is a narrative dead-end, whereas a romance - which has implications beyond the two people involved - is much more compelling.

This is really the downside of the live feeds - enabling a certain sect of hardcore viewers to feel entitled to demand what should/shouldn't be shown. There are things that I would have liked to see make the final cut, sure, but I'm not going to write a manifesto of complaints as if there are some human rights violations happening. That energy could be put into more productive real world issues.
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Many of these points show you have zero concept of the original premise of Big Brother. Not to mention, the scope of what they were capable of including in a 20 minute Daily Show back for 8 years compared to what's in a 45+ minute episode today. Try again.
 
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I'd suggest re-reading what was written below, but @imsocold still won't agree. Perhaps a few should go back to watching Married At First Sight.

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Brekkie said:
There is a balance to be struck between producers intervening when necessary and producers stepping in to resolve issues the housemates should be able to resolve amongst themselves.
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I completely agree - this is what makes Big Brother so fascinating to watch. But what also makes it fascinating is that the viewers should get to see all facets and sides of the HMs, and (live streams aside, as it’s only a small portion of the viewers) currently we are not. I think that’s a main point being raised in this conversation.

The feelings and thoughts shared in this thread are valid, but I do...
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imsocold said:
Beyond voting to evict, the original format was never about audience interference. It was observational fish-bowl TV, shaped by and to the liking of "Big Brother".
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Huh? Big Brother is “observational fish-bowl TV” - that’s the entire premise of it. The audience are supposed to be a fly on the wall with an occasional say, such as who’s evicted.

This is where the original run was supreme. This bite sized, spoon fed version is an echo of its former self. It’s much better than what 7 produced but it’s still not hitting the mark.

No one is writing a manifesto of complaints. We’re simply stating our point of view on what’s actually working and what they’re failing to do. You’re on here saying you’re okay with this updated “OG format.” Most of these TikTok viewers probably have no idea at what this show is capable of being because they aren’t old enough to remember it. You get to post your thoughts and so do the people that expected a little better.
 
the Theorist said:
Many of these points show you have zero concept of the original premise of Big Brother. Not to mention, the scope of what they were capable of including in a 20 minute Daily Show back for 8 years compared to what's in a 45+ minute episode today. Try again.
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I agree. I've been watching Season 1. Back then, if something happened bad or out of the ordinary, they'd find a way to include it narratively. Heck, on Day 3, Gemma got injured and ended up needing to go to hospital. They even showed us footage from the hospital on the following Sunday Nominations show. Do you think that would happen now?
 
imsocold said:
The daily show isn't made for the people tuned into the live feeds, it's made for a wider audience - largely casual viewers who rely on simplified narrative hooks. Ed getting a strike is a narrative dead-end, whereas a romance - which has implications beyond the two people involved - is much more compelling.
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Isn't that why scripted dramas and soap operas exist? Why does the real world have to be "soap opera-fied" to satiate braindead viewers?

If I wanted to watch a fake romance, I'll watch Brooke marry Ridge for the 13,647th time on The Bold and the Beautiful.
 
The literal point of Big Brother is to provide context and a full balanced edit on the broadcast episodes of the HMs personalities. That was drilled in to the BBAU audience for years and it was executed more than perfectly for many seasons. Fast forward to 2025, things like deliberately leaving out key personality traits because it suits them, or using music to persuade viewers’ opinions, is setting an agenda and precedent that doesn’t belong on Big Brother.
 
Cadbury said:
Isn't that why scripted dramas and soap operas exist? Why does the real world have to be "soap opera-fied" to satiate braindead viewers?

If I wanted to watch a fake romance, I'll watch Brooke marry Ridge for the 13,647th time on The Bold and the Beautiful.
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This is exactly right. From the Nine version onward it became more about crafted storylines that were almost manufactured. That is not to say the OG 10 era didn't do this, but it was in the context of what was happening and they would build the daily show around that. It's also which (and I know this will be controversial) but I actually preferred the 30 min daily shows. They aren't viable in today's commercial lense of a network, but it was more raw, and you saw a wider view of the housemates of the days happenings because of the limited time, where necessary they would then extend it to 1 hour when it was warranted - but not often.
Now because they are upwards of 60 minutes, there is more filler content that more so creates a narrative and more "storyline" as apposed to it being observational and having to craft it into an episode story in that sense.
Partly also why a lot of us hate the underscoring of production music, because they are trying to MAKE people feel a way throughout the show.
Soppy music in a crying scene - you need to feel sad for this person.
Intense dramatic music - you should feel that this is conflict.
When really when you take those away, majority wouldn't feel the way its being pushed and produced like a soap opera. It goes against what @imsocold is saying - its not observational anymore its manufactured
 
matts bb said:
This is exactly right. From the Nine version onward it became more about crafted storylines that were almost manufactured. That is not to say the OG 10 era didn't do this, but it was in the context of what was happening and they would build the daily show around that. It's also which (and I know this will be controversial) but I actually preferred the 30 min daily shows. They aren't viable in today's commercial lense of a network, but it was more raw, and you saw a wider view of the housemates of the days happenings because of the limited time, where necessary they would then extend it to 1 hour when it was warranted - but not often.
Now because they are upwards of 60 minutes, there is more filler content that more so creates a narrative and more "storyline" as apposed to it being observational and having to craft it into an episode story in that sense.
Partly also why a lot of us hate the underscoring of production music, because they are trying to MAKE people feel a way throughout the show.
Soppy music in a crying scene - you need to feel sad for this person.
Intense dramatic music - you should feel that this is conflict.
When really when you take those away, majority wouldn't feel the way its being pushed and produced like a soap opera. It goes against what @imsocold is saying - its not observational anymore its manufactured
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Hear hear!

I get where @imsocold is coming from in that this is the point of view from the network in how they craft their daily shows, but they're all morons and think the viewers are morons.
 
Affable said:
Only watched the first season of the 7 one.

Saw commercials for another season and immediately picked Marley as my favourite. No shock that he ended up winning.

The third season (love one) I didn’t even bother looking at the commercials.
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Same. Marley is from my suburb; have seen him walking around a few times with his girlfriend. His parents still live here.
 
They started talking about the different Big Brother voices and then COCO was like "PRODUCTION TALK" and they stopped. Clearly have been told to not talk about the production now.

Lol Jane "I have one egg, do you want to go poach it"
 
matts bb said:
They started talking about the different Big Brother voices and then COCO was like "PRODUCTION TALK" and they stopped. Clearly have been told to not talk about the production now.

Lol Jane "I have one egg, do you want to go poach it"
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I caught that part too. I do wish we were shown any telling offs and rule breaks.
 
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