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Mmmm no Danny ended up being such an annoying whinger.
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
Clara was right, she was shit at loving dead Dan - and she loves the Doctor more.
That scene when she tells cyberD that, is the most painful bit.
Sleepy first view I didn't pick up on the cyber Danny rescuing Clara bits much.
Good end for Dan, I never liked him, he allways seemed sedated or petty.
And the love affair, was a rushed thing, I never felt them become a real couple.
But either he comes back or Clara is already preggers, didn't we see the descendant off in the future?
What was awful, & disturbing, she kept saying it would be the last time ever she said I love you to somebody/anybody????
Moffat is crap at emotional.
He never gets it right, either it feels fake/inauthentic that they are involved in the first place, or he gets the timing all wrong.
He makes things happen in a flash - and who gives a shit, eg River, I'm your daughter, and everybody just forgets it...
Or he drags out shit until you give up - all the amy/rory torture, and endless separations.
And @Tim , great brief explanation. So this is /clara realtime, and we see her become impossible - but they never clarify if she remains impossible.
That scene when she tells cyberD that, is the most painful bit.
Sleepy first view I didn't pick up on the cyber Danny rescuing Clara bits much.
Good end for Dan, I never liked him, he allways seemed sedated or petty.
And the love affair, was a rushed thing, I never felt them become a real couple.
But either he comes back or Clara is already preggers, didn't we see the descendant off in the future?
What was awful, & disturbing, she kept saying it would be the last time ever she said I love you to somebody/anybody????
Moffat is crap at emotional.
He never gets it right, either it feels fake/inauthentic that they are involved in the first place, or he gets the timing all wrong.
He makes things happen in a flash - and who gives a shit, eg River, I'm your daughter, and everybody just forgets it...
Or he drags out shit until you give up - all the amy/rory torture, and endless separations.
And @Tim , great brief explanation. So this is /clara realtime, and we see her become impossible - but they never clarify if she remains impossible.
BigBrotherCritic
Like working a job 24/7, for 2 days on the trot
NO DOCTOR WHO TILL CHRISTMAS!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH
Otherwise I loved the episode dearly! Such a clever plot and a great return for the Master!! I will sincerely miss new adventures in the TARDIS and will miss Lincolnshire Laddess (Clara). Very disappointed that the Doctor didn't find Gallifrey but what would happen is he did?? Something interesting!!
And SANTA! SHOULD BE GOOD
Otherwise I loved the episode dearly! Such a clever plot and a great return for the Master!! I will sincerely miss new adventures in the TARDIS and will miss Lincolnshire Laddess (Clara). Very disappointed that the Doctor didn't find Gallifrey but what would happen is he did?? Something interesting!!
And SANTA! SHOULD BE GOOD
Ok so now it's off season for you guys I am not derailing the thread.
Due to the popularity of this thread and the interesting discussions had here, I have felt left out. So I have been considering watching Dr Who. I have never even seen a single episode.
Anyway, being the OCD type tv consumer, I googled how many episodes there were if I started from the beginning and worked my way through.
These are the hours:
Yep... Nup... I have definitely come to this party way too late to even try to catch up now.
Have you guys watched from the beginning, or can you just jump in at the start of a new doctor??
Also, what happened to the poor eighth doctor?
Sorry to intrude.
Due to the popularity of this thread and the interesting discussions had here, I have felt left out. So I have been considering watching Dr Who. I have never even seen a single episode.
Anyway, being the OCD type tv consumer, I googled how many episodes there were if I started from the beginning and worked my way through.
These are the hours:
Yep... Nup... I have definitely come to this party way too late to even try to catch up now.
Have you guys watched from the beginning, or can you just jump in at the start of a new doctor??
Also, what happened to the poor eighth doctor?
Sorry to intrude.
twinsmum
Well-Known Member
Juuust about to go to bed but I only just realised it was that finale until Christmas (this weekend has been mad) so I'll chuck a few sentences together!! I can't even remember everything that happened honestly will have to give the whole finale a rewatch when I get a minute! Might actually need to give the whole series a rewatch if i can.
I did not care for Danny Pink so I don't really care he is gone (that sounds soooo bad!), although it was a shock I'll admit. I honestly thought start of the episode was setting us up for Clara's imminent demise so that wasn't what I expected. But I never warmed to him and like a lot of you either Moffat or I must have completely missed their relationship development. He was just a waste of a character imo. So Clara left him at the end but we haven't had much hubbub like there usually is at the end of a companion so is Clara gone for good? Will she go for good at Christmas? Shouldnt start wishing too early I guess lol...you may have picked up I'm not a fan of Clara and/or Danny. I was never much of a Clara fan after Asylum of the Daleks (I really liked that one) and I thought that might change this season but the whole thing with Danny lost me honestly.
I actually really liked seeing Kate and Osgood
cry again....that bit with Kate and the CyberBrig....my goodness....that was the most emotional part of it for me along with the kid in the afterlife or whatever they decided to call it. Was an interesting concept really although the whole cloud thing lost me a bit, the 3 words weren't what I was expecting!! I'm still not sure what I thought of it tbh, I hope it makes more sense when I watch agin lol. it was nice seeing Malcolm and Ollie/Toby back together again though even though Seb was entirely unconvincing 
Might just be me but I found the whole Missy thing ended up kind of anticlimactic? Like we don't know what happened..ok...thats all. Something about coordinates to Gallifrey (damn I REALLY need to watch again). Plus the old recycling of a finale in a graveyard Ohhh well bring on Christmas!! Can't wait to see Nick Frost as Santa! I spent ages looking for him in The Long Game, back then I was convinced he and Simon did everything together lol
@bleachy_dude that poster is so cool to see! I would definitely encourage you to watch it as far as I know 8th doctor(Paul mcGann?) was only for a one off movie int he late 90s....google will probably be more help as I only came here quickly to rattle off some thoughts before bed. I havent watched all of the classic stuff so I cant speak for that but if you are more interested in the new stuff I would recccccommmmmend (cannot work this word out atm!!!) either starting at 9 (Christopher ecclestone) or 11 (smith) as 9 started the new era altogether and was the start of the RTD era, and 11 started the current Moffat era. I personally think 9/10 are better than 11 but that's just me!!
Officially not making any sense and one of the boys sounds like he's stirring so im going to take my cue and leave now, not a massive finale but this whole season basically convinced me not to give up on Doctor who altogether....thanks Twelve you inconsistent dodo
I did not care for Danny Pink so I don't really care he is gone (that sounds soooo bad!), although it was a shock I'll admit. I honestly thought start of the episode was setting us up for Clara's imminent demise so that wasn't what I expected. But I never warmed to him and like a lot of you either Moffat or I must have completely missed their relationship development. He was just a waste of a character imo. So Clara left him at the end but we haven't had much hubbub like there usually is at the end of a companion so is Clara gone for good? Will she go for good at Christmas? Shouldnt start wishing too early I guess lol...you may have picked up I'm not a fan of Clara and/or Danny. I was never much of a Clara fan after Asylum of the Daleks (I really liked that one) and I thought that might change this season but the whole thing with Danny lost me honestly.
I actually really liked seeing Kate and Osgood
cry again....that bit with Kate and the CyberBrig....my goodness....that was the most emotional part of it for me along with the kid in the afterlife or whatever they decided to call it. Was an interesting concept really although the whole cloud thing lost me a bit, the 3 words weren't what I was expecting!! I'm still not sure what I thought of it tbh, I hope it makes more sense when I watch agin lol. it was nice seeing Malcolm and Ollie/Toby back together again though even though Seb was entirely unconvincing Might just be me but I found the whole Missy thing ended up kind of anticlimactic? Like we don't know what happened..ok...thats all. Something about coordinates to Gallifrey (damn I REALLY need to watch again). Plus the old recycling of a finale in a graveyard Ohhh well bring on Christmas!! Can't wait to see Nick Frost as Santa! I spent ages looking for him in The Long Game, back then I was convinced he and Simon did everything together lol@bleachy_dude that poster is so cool to see! I would definitely encourage you to watch it
as far as I know 8th doctor(Paul mcGann?) was only for a one off movie int he late 90s....google will probably be more help as I only came here quickly to rattle off some thoughts before bed. I havent watched all of the classic stuff so I cant speak for that but if you are more interested in the new stuff I would recccccommmmmend (cannot work this word out atm!!!) either starting at 9 (Christopher ecclestone) or 11 (smith) as 9 started the new era altogether and was the start of the RTD era, and 11 started the current Moffat era. I personally think 9/10 are better than 11 but that's just me!!Officially not making any sense and one of the boys sounds like he's stirring so im going to take my cue and leave now, not a massive finale but this whole season basically convinced me not to give up on Doctor who altogether....thanks Twelve you inconsistent dodo
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
Ok so now it's off season for you guys I am not derailing the thread.
Due to the popularity of this thread and the interesting discussions had here, I have felt left out. So I have been considering watching Dr Who. I have never even seen a single episode.
Anyway, being the OCD type tv consumer, I googled how many episodes there were if I started from the beginning and worked my way through.
These are the hours:
Yep... Nup... I have definitely come to this party way too late to even try to catch up now.
Have you guys watched from the beginning, or can you just jump in at the start of a new doctor??
Also, what happened to the poor eighth doctor?
Sorry to intrude.
Thanks for that awesome tally board you have found.
Just jump in at 9, an awful lot of people haven't seen anything more.
But then you will find your mind altered, and your heart, and you can't help but want to just feed it more - and there is so much to feast on
Still, I grew up with it constantly on and it seeped in, sometimes by choice, usually just big brothers ruled and a lot of it I was really young, not that interested (lots of running down cardboard corridors) .
I can only consciously remember following some Tom Baker stories for Leela (wild savage companion) and Peter Davison is when I fell in love with Doctor.
8 made a movie, then we had years more nothing. he continues to make audio and other Doctor stuff.
Oh yes there are audio stories, books, magazines - amazing mags, you can get ones that go through the entire 50 years of doctors and stuff.
When I got NuWho obsessed, the mags were fantastic.
Lots of merchandise too
And there are 2 spin off shows, neither currently being produced but both have several series, Torchwood, adults only and very sexual and enjoyable
And the Mary Jane Adventures, for kids but unlike most kids shows it has doctory stuff and monsters and good stories.Gee some stuff here must sound weird to you. All the impossible girls stuff, and undercurrent DW that is always there, I friggin love that.
I do hope the ABC begins repeating this series straight away. Why not, it will just fit in before Christmas
Meglos
HAVE A NECTARINE, GONK
Welcome aboard @bleachy_dude
No one expects you to catch up on every episode. The great thing about this show is you can either obsess over it (like me) or dip into the new series one episode or Doctor at a time. There's no snobbery about who has seen the most or been a fan the longest. The Who community, on here at least, is inclusive of everyone, much like the show itself.
No one expects you to catch up on every episode. The great thing about this show is you can either obsess over it (like me) or dip into the new series one episode or Doctor at a time. There's no snobbery about who has seen the most or been a fan the longest. The Who community, on here at least, is inclusive of everyone, much like the show itself.
I'm much the same, and was put off Who for that very reason initially, but then I gave the first season a go (i.e. the first season of the "reboot") and there's honestly no turning back now. It's amazing, and you don't need to have seen all the old stuff to appreciate it. Of course, sometimes they reference things from the 70s or whenever, but that's more for people who've seen all of it to get a kick out of it, you know? I mean, I've gone back and watched a whole lot of old stuff, and I've done a lot of reading, so I'm fairly clued up on stuff, but yeah, it's not necessary at all. Besides, the entire tone of the show has shifted completely since 2005, so yeah, I dunno, just watch it. You won't be disappointed! (until you have to sit through seasons five, six, and seven
)
..I finally get the time to speak about the latest episode!... first of all I have to say that I'm sooooo happy that The Master did not regenerate into a voluptuous gorgeous blond super model type of character... I'm so happy that he regenerated into a dowdy 'Mary Poppins' type of figure because that would've thrown me off completely as accepting a female Master... speaking of The Master coming back as a woman... could that be like a tribute for all of the Whovians that were chomping at the bit for the next Doctor to be a woman instead of Capaldi?... just a thought on my part...
...I had to laugh that when the Cybermen were standing in the streets while The Master and The Doctor were talking that passers by were taking 'selfies' with them... (they ended up pulling guns on them lol!)... funny as!...
..."He's (The Doctor) on the payroll!"...
..."am I?"...
..."technically"...
..."how much?"...
..."shoosh!"...
...pure gold to me!... lol!... I was glad to see Kate-Lethbridge'Stewart and Osgood again... I love Sanjeev Bhaskar as Colonel Ahmed but thought that he was soooooo under-used in his role!... I was disappointed that I never saw much of him at all... the fact that Osgood died shocked me!... I actually thought at the beginning when she walked on that she was going to be groomed as the next Doctors companion once Clara went to be honest... (if she goes?... that is what's going to happen according to the rumours)...... hence the reason that I was shocked and saddened by her death...
...who would've thought that the Dome of Saint Paul's Cathedral would open up like that?... amazing!... Michelle Gomez as Missy is absolutely brilliant in the role... I hope that she comes back in future episodes... I really do!... I wasn't too fussed when Chris Addison (Seb in the Nethersphere) was zapped... he really was giving me the irrits to be honest...
...that guy in the Morgue when the dead bodies were trying to get out of the lockers must have been kacking his duds big time!... that would've so freaked me out if I was there and that happened I can tell you!... seeing Danny Pink picking up that piece of paper in the Morgue as a Cyberman made me sit there in total disbelief!...
..."where are we going to... 'Cloudbase"?... asks The Doctor...
..."you mean... The valiant"?... K-L-Stewart corrects him...
..."Cloudbase was The Thunderbirds!"... Osgood informs him...
..."It's Captain Scarlet... not The Thunderbirds!"... Captain Ahmed says in correcting Osgood...
...more pure gold to me!... lol!... when told that The President was on the plane The Doctor said...
"we don't want Americans bombing around the place... they'll only start praying!"...
...the look on The Doctors face when he found out that HE was the President of the world was priceless!...
...I was looking at just how many sugar cubes that The Doctor was putting in his cup of tea and just had to do this...
...that was a brilliant lie that Clara told to keep herself alive wasn't it?... ol' Danny came to the rescue eh?... good stuff!... I thought that it was a terrible thing to happen to Osgood... Missy was so parodying Hannibal Lector on occasions I felt... from this scene onwards...
...especially when she told Osgood that she would kill her within the next 60 seconds... again... such a shame that Osgood died in this scene... although Missy singing to the tune of Tony Basil's 'Mickey' just before that was quite funny...I am surprised that people are not remembering the Cybermen from past episodes... unless this is an alternative Universe type of scenario or something?... curious indeed!...
...Clara's time in the graveyard was genuinely creepy for me... Clara telling Danny as the Cyberman... (without her knowing that it was him)... that The Doctor was the only person that she would never lie to must've been killing Danny with or without feelings methinks... the Cybermen flying alongside the plane was very 'Ironman-ish' wasn't it?... when the Cyberman showed up at the planes window when The Doctor was looking out made me jump out of my skin!...
...Colonel Ahmed being pulled out of the plane window by a Cyberman and then KL Stewart being sucked out to apparently fall to her death was quite disturbing to say the least!... The Doctor free-falling from the plane into the Tardis was a bit of a stretch but I bought into it anyway...
...Danny really did hate The Doctor and what he represents doesn't he?... I never liked the character of Danny Pink too much but I guess that he's a major part of the story to show The Doctor for what he really is at times eh?... the final moment between him and Clara was so Rory and Amy-ish to me... sad but necessary I suppose... Missy's Mary Poppins entry into the graveyard was hilarious!... and she did it so well!... lol!...
..."Cyberdears... look at mummy!"... and making then do a sort of 'Simon says' type of routine... priceless yet again!... Missy's... 'Happy Birthday... Mr President'... Marilyn Munroe take off was quite clever again... 'go on... crack a smile... I want to see if your eyebrows drop off!'... comment... another rip snorter!... I saw of lot of John Simms' Master mannerisms at times in Michelle Gomez's performance... did anyone else see that or is it just me?...
...it was great to see the Sydney Opera House in shot when the clouds were burning up wasn't it?... I did notice that Missy mentioned Brisbane as one of the places covered by clouds at the beginning of the episode... I wonder if the makers of the show think that the Opera House is in Brisbane?... perhaps I'm just being too picky eh?... lol!...
...The Doctor saluting the Lethbridge-Stewart Cyberman... (her father)... was a big nod to his involvement in the show all those years ago was good wasn't it?... Danny sacrificing his chance to return back to life so that the young kid could be allowed to live so as to be able to go back to his parents in Afghanistan was a gut wrencher for me...
...Clara not telling The Doctor that Danny was not alive and back with her was a bit perplexing for me... I know that she didn't tell him because she didn't want to stop him going back home to Gallifrey but still... it didn't ring true to me... The Doctor losing his temper and smashing his fists on the console of The Tardis when he saw that Missy had lied about the location of Gallifrey was an eye opener wasn't it?... him lying to Clara about it was the same as her lying to him... perplexing for me...
..."why don't you like hugging Doctor?"... asks Clara...
..."never trust a hug... it's just a way to hide your face"... replies The Doctor...
...such a sad farewell for both of them for me... when Clara and The Doctor was talking about him becoming a King of Gallifrey... she said ... 'or even a Queen or whatever'... was she perhaps insinuating that this Doctor might be gay?... just a random thought on my part...
...nobody gets phased at all when a man steps into a Police Box and disappears in a crowded market place/mall?... oh wow!... simply amazing don't you think?...
...I really don't think that this is the last that we see the 'Impossible Girl' or Danny Pink somehow... Danny is back in the Nethersphere after all... and what with Nick Frost as Santa Clause popping in and asking The Doctor...'what do you want for Christmas?'... and all it kind of makes me think that they will both be back somehow... (although he did look like he was dozing at the console when that happened so I hope that the Christmas special is not just a dream!... oh and while I think of it... it was great to see a flash of Matt Smith on screen for a few brief seconds too!...
...anyhow... this has truly been such a mind blowing season for me... Peter Capaldi has excelled way above and beyond the call of duty as The Doctor for me for sure!... brilliant performances... brilliant stories... brilliant guests... kudos to all concerned and I can't wait for next years new episodes!... I just hope that they start earlier in the year and are more episodes this time though... roll on the Christmas episode I say!... cheers.
...I had to laugh that when the Cybermen were standing in the streets while The Master and The Doctor were talking that passers by were taking 'selfies' with them... (they ended up pulling guns on them lol!)... funny as!...
..."He's (The Doctor) on the payroll!"...
..."am I?"...
..."technically"...
..."how much?"...
..."shoosh!"...
...pure gold to me!... lol!... I was glad to see Kate-Lethbridge'Stewart and Osgood again... I love Sanjeev Bhaskar as Colonel Ahmed but thought that he was soooooo under-used in his role!... I was disappointed that I never saw much of him at all... the fact that Osgood died shocked me!... I actually thought at the beginning when she walked on that she was going to be groomed as the next Doctors companion once Clara went to be honest... (if she goes?... that is what's going to happen according to the rumours)...... hence the reason that I was shocked and saddened by her death...
...who would've thought that the Dome of Saint Paul's Cathedral would open up like that?... amazing!... Michelle Gomez as Missy is absolutely brilliant in the role... I hope that she comes back in future episodes... I really do!... I wasn't too fussed when Chris Addison (Seb in the Nethersphere) was zapped... he really was giving me the irrits to be honest...
...that guy in the Morgue when the dead bodies were trying to get out of the lockers must have been kacking his duds big time!... that would've so freaked me out if I was there and that happened I can tell you!... seeing Danny Pink picking up that piece of paper in the Morgue as a Cyberman made me sit there in total disbelief!...
..."where are we going to... 'Cloudbase"?... asks The Doctor...
..."you mean... The valiant"?... K-L-Stewart corrects him...
..."Cloudbase was The Thunderbirds!"... Osgood informs him...
..."It's Captain Scarlet... not The Thunderbirds!"... Captain Ahmed says in correcting Osgood...
...more pure gold to me!... lol!... when told that The President was on the plane The Doctor said...
"we don't want Americans bombing around the place... they'll only start praying!"...
...the look on The Doctors face when he found out that HE was the President of the world was priceless!...
...I was looking at just how many sugar cubes that The Doctor was putting in his cup of tea and just had to do this...
...that was a brilliant lie that Clara told to keep herself alive wasn't it?... ol' Danny came to the rescue eh?... good stuff!... I thought that it was a terrible thing to happen to Osgood... Missy was so parodying Hannibal Lector on occasions I felt... from this scene onwards...
...especially when she told Osgood that she would kill her within the next 60 seconds... again... such a shame that Osgood died in this scene... although Missy singing to the tune of Tony Basil's 'Mickey' just before that was quite funny...I am surprised that people are not remembering the Cybermen from past episodes... unless this is an alternative Universe type of scenario or something?... curious indeed!...
...Clara's time in the graveyard was genuinely creepy for me... Clara telling Danny as the Cyberman... (without her knowing that it was him)... that The Doctor was the only person that she would never lie to must've been killing Danny with or without feelings methinks... the Cybermen flying alongside the plane was very 'Ironman-ish' wasn't it?... when the Cyberman showed up at the planes window when The Doctor was looking out made me jump out of my skin!...
...Colonel Ahmed being pulled out of the plane window by a Cyberman and then KL Stewart being sucked out to apparently fall to her death was quite disturbing to say the least!... The Doctor free-falling from the plane into the Tardis was a bit of a stretch but I bought into it anyway...
...Danny really did hate The Doctor and what he represents doesn't he?... I never liked the character of Danny Pink too much but I guess that he's a major part of the story to show The Doctor for what he really is at times eh?... the final moment between him and Clara was so Rory and Amy-ish to me... sad but necessary I suppose... Missy's Mary Poppins entry into the graveyard was hilarious!... and she did it so well!... lol!...
..."Cyberdears... look at mummy!"... and making then do a sort of 'Simon says' type of routine... priceless yet again!... Missy's... 'Happy Birthday... Mr President'... Marilyn Munroe take off was quite clever again... 'go on... crack a smile... I want to see if your eyebrows drop off!'... comment... another rip snorter!... I saw of lot of John Simms' Master mannerisms at times in Michelle Gomez's performance... did anyone else see that or is it just me?...
...it was great to see the Sydney Opera House in shot when the clouds were burning up wasn't it?... I did notice that Missy mentioned Brisbane as one of the places covered by clouds at the beginning of the episode... I wonder if the makers of the show think that the Opera House is in Brisbane?... perhaps I'm just being too picky eh?... lol!...
...The Doctor saluting the Lethbridge-Stewart Cyberman... (her father)... was a big nod to his involvement in the show all those years ago was good wasn't it?... Danny sacrificing his chance to return back to life so that the young kid could be allowed to live so as to be able to go back to his parents in Afghanistan was a gut wrencher for me...
...Clara not telling The Doctor that Danny was not alive and back with her was a bit perplexing for me... I know that she didn't tell him because she didn't want to stop him going back home to Gallifrey but still... it didn't ring true to me... The Doctor losing his temper and smashing his fists on the console of The Tardis when he saw that Missy had lied about the location of Gallifrey was an eye opener wasn't it?... him lying to Clara about it was the same as her lying to him... perplexing for me...
..."why don't you like hugging Doctor?"... asks Clara...
..."never trust a hug... it's just a way to hide your face"... replies The Doctor...
...such a sad farewell for both of them for me... when Clara and The Doctor was talking about him becoming a King of Gallifrey... she said ... 'or even a Queen or whatever'... was she perhaps insinuating that this Doctor might be gay?... just a random thought on my part...
...nobody gets phased at all when a man steps into a Police Box and disappears in a crowded market place/mall?... oh wow!... simply amazing don't you think?...
...I really don't think that this is the last that we see the 'Impossible Girl' or Danny Pink somehow... Danny is back in the Nethersphere after all... and what with Nick Frost as Santa Clause popping in and asking The Doctor...'what do you want for Christmas?'... and all it kind of makes me think that they will both be back somehow... (although he did look like he was dozing at the console when that happened so I hope that the Christmas special is not just a dream!... oh and while I think of it... it was great to see a flash of Matt Smith on screen for a few brief seconds too!...
...anyhow... this has truly been such a mind blowing season for me... Peter Capaldi has excelled way above and beyond the call of duty as The Doctor for me for sure!... brilliant performances... brilliant stories... brilliant guests... kudos to all concerned and I can't wait for next years new episodes!... I just hope that they start earlier in the year and are more episodes this time though... roll on the Christmas episode I say!... cheers.
Meglos
HAVE A NECTARINE, GONK
Wow that's a huge post @Mr Stickyfingers
Thanks for giving me something to read before bed.
*grabs a cuppa*
Thanks for giving me something to read before bed.
*grabs a cuppa*
...hahaha!... yeah it was a tad bit long wasn't it?... no worries my friend... lol!...
...just a little appetizer for us all... cheers.
Do we know what the monsters are for the Christmas special yet?
BigBrotherCritic
Like working a job 24/7, for 2 days on the trot
Just in regards to the Nethersphere, Didn't Danny say the place was dying? Thats why they had to go out but he sent the Afghan boy?
AND BRISBANE IN DOCTOR WHO BESIDES TEGAN! HOORAY
Meglos
HAVE A NECTARINE, GONK
How is your DW marathon going @nutmeg ?
Have you done The Reign Of Terror yet? My review is on the previous page, looking forward to hearing what you thought of the story.
Not trying to hurry you, take as long as you want
I'm taking a bit of an end of season one break at the moment while I catch up on all the extra features on the DVDs. The production subtitles are really interesting if you're into behind the scenes details.
Have you done The Reign Of Terror yet? My review is on the previous page, looking forward to hearing what you thought of the story.
Not trying to hurry you, take as long as you want
I'm taking a bit of an end of season one break at the moment while I catch up on all the extra features on the DVDs. The production subtitles are really interesting if you're into behind the scenes details.
nutmeg
Well-Known Member
I've been meaning to post some thoughts for a few days, but have barely even had time for BB. Annoyingly, I've been dealing with the results of multiple burglaries at mr nutmeg's deceased father's home, the place was completely overturned, huge mess, lots of losses, including stuff like old cards and family photos ... they obviously wanted everything, it's crazy, and kinda disturbing. Things are starting to settle down now though, thank goodness.How is your DW marathon going @nutmeg ?
Have you done The Reign Of Terror yet? My review is on the previous page, looking forward to hearing what you thought of the story.
Not trying to hurry you, take as long as you want
I'm taking a bit of an end of season one break at the moment while I catch up on all the extra features on the DVDs. The production subtitles are really interesting if you're into behind the scenes details.
I'll post The Reign of Terror tonight, I really liked the episode. And am looking forward to reading all the finale comments here properly (I've only skimmed) and watching the last episode again tomorrow. So glad we have classic Who because otherwise we'd be Who-less til Xmas.
Meglos
HAVE A NECTARINE, GONK
Really sorry to hear about those burglaries nutmeg, how disgusting and awful for you and your family.
As I said, take this at your own pace, and hopefully Who will help keep your mind off more depressing reality a bit.
I picked up the latest DW figurine today, it's Sontaran General Staal from The Poison Sky.
Next fortnight is David Tennant!
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
Oh no @nutmeg ....getting robbed sucks so bad. I still haven't replaced stuff from 3 years ago.
Our neighbourhood had real run about then, we got hit twice - the fuckers come back when you have new stuff!
Insured, but OMG it is a pain.
Now we have a rotty
This made me think BBBAWHOVIANS - where are you all located?
We could have a nice little get together, and fish fingers and custard, but maybe anon is better.
Good news, after Saturday's repeat of the finale - something
5PM. SUNDAY 23 NOVEMBER, REPEATS - Everything hopefully
The Doctor must sacrifice everything to save a town called Christmas from the Time Lord's greatest enemies.
CAST: Matt Smith
Our neighbourhood had real run about then, we got hit twice - the fuckers come back when you have new stuff!
Insured, but OMG it is a pain.
Now we have a rotty
This made me think BBBAWHOVIANS - where are you all located?
We could have a nice little get together, and fish fingers and custard, but maybe anon is better.
Good news, after Saturday's repeat of the finale - something
5PM. SUNDAY 23 NOVEMBER, REPEATS - Everything hopefully
The Doctor must sacrifice everything to save a town called Christmas from the Time Lord's greatest enemies.
CAST: Matt Smith
nutmeg
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Thanks kxk and Meglos. It's not the end of the world, but it isn't much fun either. Last time, the burglars were there when we turned up at 11am and we heard them jumping out the back window while we were coming in the front door. Creepy. Well at least we got to keep the stuff they had bagged up ready to take, and we didn't get attacked walking in, so it isn't all bad. And kxk, sorry to hear about your robberies, but nice excuse to get a dog, lol.
It would be fun if BBBAWHOVIANS could all catch up one day, though I assume we are scattered all around the country, I'm in Victoria. Maybe when there is a big DW event somewhere we could all go and meet up then? Probably not likely we could all make it, but it's a nice thought.
nutmeg
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CLASSIC WHO MARATHON
CLASSIC WHO MARATHON
The Reign of Terror
The Reign Of Terror is probably one of the least talked about of the black and white stories. Generally not regarded as a classic, it also rarely attracts negative comment either, instead sitting somewhere in the fan consensus as a solid but unexciting historical. One of the greatest things about this marathon is discovering those moments when you can unearth a previously undiscovered gem and take the opportunity to fully appreciate something that the majority have overlooked. I had not seen this one before. As with the previous story, and the following one for that matter, I had bought the video but never quite got around to watching it. I'd read the book, during the time when I was learning about the French Revolution at school, which enabled me to bluff my way through several history essays. So that's a CHECK for the educational aspect. How then does it fare entertainment-wise? The answer is, very well thank you.
The regular cast always seem in their element when involved in history, squaring up to actual historical figures. This one gives William Hartnell another opportunity to shine, as a case of mistaken identity gives him the perfect opportunity to not just dress up fabulouslybut also to adopt a sterner, more authorative role. He seems to immerse himself in the role to a degree he rarely gets credit for. Things kick off when the Doctor, Ian, Susan and Barbara are confronted by revolutionaries in an abandoned farmhouse, which leads to a brilliant scene where the revolutionaries D'Argenson and Rouvray are brutally killed, Ian is captured, and Susan (who is suffering from plague symptoms) and Barbara are sent off to be guillotined as traitors. It's fantastically grim, especially when it culminates in the farmhouse being set alight with the Doctor inside. The Doctor is rescued by a boy, Jean-Pierre, followed by scenes such as the journey along the roadside, including his encounters with shopkeepers and road workers, imbued with Hartnell's sense of humour. We almost have a repeat of the caveman incident as the Doctor seems willing to clobber someone with a shovel.
All of the characters we meet bring something to the table - Jules and Jean, Danielle, Barbara's deceitful love interest Leon Colbert, Lemaitre, and historical bigwigs Napoleon and Robespierre.
Episode 4 and 5 no longer exist in their original form, and are represented on the DVD by full animations from the company who made Danger Mouse. For me it works beautifully, adding nuances to the story that may have been missing listening to the audio alone. Susan's likeness is particularly good.
The icing on the cake is the Doctor's final "our destiny is in the stars" speech. This was the concluding story of Doctor Who's very first season, and looking back, the series has got off to a very strong start, demonstrating many of the qualities which would ensure it would run and run, and that we would still be watching it now.
Meglos, your reviews get more professional every time. Great read. I was going to post the same picture, the Doctor looked so grand in this episode, and he performed his act with such authority, he would have fooled me that he was part of the establishment. Wonderful to see Hartnell get so much to work with and do so well with it. Ian and Barbara were great too, but Susan was just annoying … too sick to escape from the guillotine indeed!! But not her fault, it was the way it was written, and she acted her little heart out at being sick. I came across a clip of her talking about this episode, although I would guess it came from the DVD.
Interesting you saying that the historical dramas aren’t popular, because I love them. IMO, going back in time should provide enough drama, without needing aliens, so I’m happy they didn’t overcomplicate things back in the day.
Meglos, your French Revolution knowledge is obviously better than mine (most of what I know came from things like the Carry On movie Don’t Lose Your Head, lol), and while it was very watchable without knowing all the players and their roles, I did feel it would have been more fun if I’d known.
There were a few funny things. Like one of the early scenes when the team was in the woods, I’m sure the woods had a corner, lol. I couldn't get a good screen shot as they were running so the still was too blurry.
And when Barbara was telling Ian about how the Doctor helped her to escape from the Concierge prison and they were speculating about how he was going to get himself and Susan out, Barbara said something like, ‘I’m sure the Doctor will tell us when he gets here, several times’. Is the Doctor a bore? Lol
Again the music was well planned. For the first five episodes I thought that the BBC didn’t have the copyright for the French national anthem as they seemed to almost play it on occasions and then it would take a different direction, but then Napoleon turned up and what do you know, they played a full bar. Yay, I barrack for the Brisbane Lions so I love that tune.
The animations were a bit stiff, but really good. As you say Meglos, Susan’s was a remarkable likeness, and Barbara's was pretty good too. I prefer the still pictures for the missing episodes though, they play into my imagination more, but I still thought the animations were great.
Wikipedia said it was William Russell’s (Ian’s) turn to have a holiday, relying on some pre-recorded clips for a couple of the episodes. Explains why he didn’t do too much for half the adventure, though he did make me laugh when he impersonated a French innkeeper. He did a good job ... but no wonder the French hate the English, lol.
So overall, it was another great episode. Meglos, let us know if anything really interesting pops up in the DVD extras, I am a bit envious. And let me know when you are ready for season two. Based on the hours summary bleachy_dude posted, this marathon will take us a few years, so no hurry, what’s another week or so, lol.
(I really need to learn how to tag people)