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Do we have a politics thread to discuss things political?
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Gayspie
Well-Known Member
Donald Trump won both the popular and electoral college vote.
The man has literally said "you'll never have to vote again". He's a huge fan of Putin and Kim Jong Un. You think he wouldn't try it? He's already bought the Supreme Court. He pardoned all the January 6 rioters, even the very worst of them. They were literally attempting to overthrow a legitimate election result. What message do you think that sends?Donald Trump won both the popular and electoral college vote.
Kingston
Canadian Royalty
They also had elections in Nazi Germany. What’s your fucking point?Donald Trump won both the popular and electoral college vote.
True. We have elections here in Cambodia as well, but only one party will ever win.They also had elections in Nazi Germany. What’s your fucking point?
Kingston
Canadian Royalty
ExactlyTrue. We have elections here in Cambodia as well, but only one party will ever win.
He got 1.5% more votes than Kamala.Donald Trump won both the popular
Gayspie
Well-Known Member
a win is still a win. if Kamala campaigned better, and connected to poor/working/lower middle class Americans better, then we would not have Trump 2.0He got 1.5% more votes than Kamala.
Gayspie
Well-Known Member
i am pretty sure US elections, like those of Australia, are mostly free and fair as certified by international observers.They also had elections in Nazi Germany. What’s your fucking point?
According to this in 2023 US was rated 7.8 and Australia 8.7 on the most recent Democracy index. the highest was Norway with 9.8 and the NZ with 9.6 The lowest was Afghanistan with 0.3. I have put in a couple of other countries that have popped up in this conversation for comparison as well. So USA are not not as democratic as us, (or Germany currently) but Gayspie is correct.
ourworldindata.org

Democracy index
Based on the expert estimates and index by the Economist Intelligence Unit (2006-2023). It combines information on the extent to which citizens can choose their political leaders in free and fair elections, enjoy civil liberties, prefer democracy over other political systems, can and do...

ah yeah I don't think the next rating for USA will be as high.The point is that USA's democracy is at risk, because of Trump. No-one's disputing the election result.
Mooseface
Little known member
He didn‘t win the popular vote, he won the majority vote.Donald Trump won both the popular and electoral college vote.
I see Trump saying they should "clean out" Gaza and dump the people on Jordan and Egypt. He's literally advocating ethnic cleansing. Sounds like he had a prior arrangement with Netanyahu to just hand Gaza over to Israel.
Gayspie
Well-Known Member
I hate it when the left say how their nations democracy is at risk whenever their opposing candidate wins a free and fair election.The point is that USA's democracy is at risk, because of Trump. No-one's disputing the election result.