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Well it looks like the Coalition will - at best - scrape through to win 76 seats - a razor thin majority. It's going to be a shit sandwich for them. Let's see how they like it. Let's not forget the likes of Joe Hockey accusing Gillard's minority government of being "illegitimate".

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Women rising from the political ashes of men


There is an increasingly widespread sense that strong female leaders are needed to ‘clean up the mess created by men’

...remarkable times for female political leadership in Britain and across the world. May is joined at the front of the Conservative leadership race by Andrea Leadsom, the energy minister and former banker.
May, along with Merkel and Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, represents part of a new “femokratie”, coming to “clean up the mess created by the men”. They were, she said, “postmodern Elektras in trouser suits and rubber gloves”. Thank goodness, the piece suggested, Europe looked at last to be in safe (female) hands.
Internationally, meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is the favourite to take the US presidency in November, and could even pick another woman, Elizabeth Warren, as her running mate. The head of the International Monetary Fund and the US attorney general are women, and the next UN secretary general, due to be chosen later this year, may well be too.
Is this all a happy coincidence? Has the glass ceiling blocking female power finally been smashed? Or is the world in such a parlous state that troubled nations have realised they need a woman to clear things up? As Iceland’s first female prime minister, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, suggested in an article in response to the referendum result, quoting lines by the Icelandic poet Ingibjörg Haraldsdóttir: “When all has been said / when the problems of the world / have been dissected discussed and settled ... – a woman always arrives / to clear the table / sweep the floor and open the windows / to let out the cigar smoke / It never fails.”

Theresa May - likely to lead UK
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Angela Merkel - Germany
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Nicola Sturgeon - Scotland
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Clinton, with Elizabeth Warren - USA???, Warren would be a great vice p.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics...om-women-to-the-rescue-amid-political-turmoil

Time to step aside boys, ya fucked this world so bad - maybe women can save us
 
Former NZ prime minister Helen Clark is running for Secretary General of the United Nations too. Go girls!
 
kxk said:
Women rising from the political ashes of men


There is an increasingly widespread sense that strong female leaders are needed to ‘clean up the mess created by men’

...remarkable times for female political leadership in Britain and across the world. May is joined at the front of the Conservative leadership race by Andrea Leadsom, the energy minister and former banker.
May, along with Merkel and Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, represents part of a new “femokratie”, coming to “clean up the mess created by the men”. They were, she said, “postmodern Elektras in trouser suits and rubber gloves”. Thank goodness, the piece suggested, Europe looked at last to be in safe (female) hands.
Internationally, meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is the favourite to take the US presidency in November, and could even pick another woman, Elizabeth Warren, as her running mate. The head of the International Monetary Fund and the US attorney general are women, and the next UN secretary general, due to be chosen later this year, may well be too.
Is this all a happy coincidence? Has the glass ceiling blocking female power finally been smashed? Or is the world in such a parlous state that troubled nations have realised they need a woman to clear things up? As Iceland’s first female prime minister, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, suggested in an article in response to the referendum result, quoting lines by the Icelandic poet Ingibjörg Haraldsdóttir: “When all has been said / when the problems of the world / have been dissected discussed and settled ... – a woman always arrives / to clear the table / sweep the floor and open the windows / to let out the cigar smoke / It never fails.”

Theresa May - likely to lead UK
2291.jpg


Angela Merkel - Germany
4442.jpg


Nicola Sturgeon - Scotland
2143.jpg


Clinton, with Elizabeth Warren - USA???, Warren would be a great vice p.
3565.jpg


http://www.theguardian.com/politics...om-women-to-the-rescue-amid-political-turmoil

Time to step aside boys, ya fucked this world so bad - maybe women can save us
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From what I've seen, Elizabeth Warren would be a better p than Hillary.

I'm not sure Merkel has really cleaned anything up though.
 
kxk said:
Women rising from the political ashes of men


There is an increasingly widespread sense that strong female leaders are needed to ‘clean up the mess created by men’

...remarkable times for female political leadership in Britain and across the world. May is joined at the front of the Conservative leadership race by Andrea Leadsom, the energy minister and former banker.
May, along with Merkel and Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, represents part of a new “femokratie”, coming to “clean up the mess created by the men”. They were, she said, “postmodern Elektras in trouser suits and rubber gloves”. Thank goodness, the piece suggested, Europe looked at last to be in safe (female) hands.
Internationally, meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is the favourite to take the US presidency in November, and could even pick another woman, Elizabeth Warren, as her running mate. The head of the International Monetary Fund and the US attorney general are women, and the next UN secretary general, due to be chosen later this year, may well be too.
Is this all a happy coincidence? Has the glass ceiling blocking female power finally been smashed? Or is the world in such a parlous state that troubled nations have realised they need a woman to clear things up? As Iceland’s first female prime minister, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, suggested in an article in response to the referendum result, quoting lines by the Icelandic poet Ingibjörg Haraldsdóttir: “When all has been said / when the problems of the world / have been dissected discussed and settled ... – a woman always arrives / to clear the table / sweep the floor and open the windows / to let out the cigar smoke / It never fails.”

Theresa May - likely to lead UK
2291.jpg


Angela Merkel - Germany
4442.jpg


Nicola Sturgeon - Scotland
2143.jpg


Clinton, with Elizabeth Warren - USA???, Warren would be a great vice p.
3565.jpg


http://www.theguardian.com/politics...om-women-to-the-rescue-amid-political-turmoil

Time to step aside boys, ya fucked this world so bad - maybe women can save us
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Julie Bishop has been quiet ...........
 
The West Australian has given it to Kevin Rudd over his (presumably now defunct) bid for the UN Secretary-General position...(unless he goes running to Auntie Hillary for support, apparently). Some rather amusing accounts below, from the longer story here:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/32224690/rudd-could-never-be-trusted-with-top-un-job/#page1
OUCH!!!

...Australians who watched Rudd being rejected by his own party for his inability to run a government — and then by the nation when Labor forced him back on us — are confused he would get support from anyone on the other side of politics.

...Abbott saw Rudd coming from afar and gave Australia’s support to New Zealand candidate Helen Clark, which was later white-anted by Bishop.

.... the fevered support for someone who many of them know might have some international experience, but lacks the essential character for the job.

.....If Rudd were a suitable candidate we wouldn’t know the details about his lobbying of the Turnbull Government and its reactions to it. That’s how diplomacy works.

....But the covert underminer and serial leaker couldn’t contain his character flaws after Turnbull repeated to him on Friday what he had been officially told on May 1: Cabinet did not think he was suitable for the job and Australia would not nominate him.

...Given that his candidacy had never been publicly stated, Rudd had the option of a proper diplomatic silence after being knocked back. Instead, he released some of his private correspondence with Turnbull which has caused unwarranted criticism of the Prime Minister’s actions and misinformed speculation about his motives.

...Turnbull on Monday questioned the truthfulness and intent of the letters and made it clear he had not encouraged Rudd since December 23.Anyone who has ever received similar meddlesome correspondence which, while purporting to be for another reason, seeks to record conversations that may or may not have proceeded along the lines set out, knows they are written for a purpose.

...And that’s to be used later for public troublemaking or private arm-twisting. They create a fraudulent audit trail that should not be trusted. In the final desperate letter of July 28, seeking a meeting to stave off Cabinet’s rejection, Rudd shows his celebrated disingenuousness: “I do not propose to make a media show about this. It would be a private meeting. And I would simply ask for the right to be heard.” Within hours he went to the media.

...Opposition members now attack Turnbull for showing better judgment than them, when they took Rudd back to save a few seats at the 2013 election, despite their concerns about his dysfunctional management abilities.
 
I'd say the world dodged a bullet there, but there was no chance Rudd would ever have got the gig. Malc should have just supported the bid and waited for him to crash and burn. That's diplomacy.

And if Rudd had appeared to gain some support along the way, Australia could have just voted for Helen in the end :wacky::D
 
Rudd had no chance of becoming Secretary General of the United Nations.

Turnbull was just being an arsehole in not nominating Rudd.

IMO: Antonio Guterres of Portugal will be the next Secretary General.
 
Never mind that minor detail... his deluded vengeance just keeps giving lol. And watch out Turnbull.... here comes the krud.

.... "It is a measure of Mr Rudd’s self-evaluation that he calls the Turnbull rebuff a “monstrous intrusion” of domestic politics into a global decision."

.....“It is no small thing when the Prime Minister of Australia stands up and says that one of his prime ministerial predecessors is unsuitable to be to be considered as a candidate for UN Secretary-General,” Mr Rudd told The Australian.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...d/news-story/5f40bba07965d8196352cb90bba11616
 
Isn't he just making himself look even more unsuitable by highlighting Turnbull's comments on his unsuitability and leaking the strange correspondence. He hasn't got great judgement either. On top of unsuitable interpersonal skills and temperament.
 
Mooseface said:
Isn't he just making himself look even more unsuitable by highlighting Turnbull's comments on his unsuitability and leaking the strange correspondence. He hasn't got great judgement either. On top of unsuitable interpersonal skills and temperament.
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Exactly right.

I really would like Helen to get the job. She's been heading the UNDP for quite a while now. Rudd could learn something from her and not aim straight for the top. Maybe there's a nice UN office job he can start in and work his way up? :D
 
It might be awfully difficult, if not impossible, for anyone to teach KRudd anything. Narcissistic arrogance would likely disallow it. Nor does he appear to have any natural talent for grace and humility....

In his mind, I bet he'd never forget that he's an ex Prime Minister who used to wave a sizeable GDP around the world... (twice!)
 
In the 'Postscript' segment of the Letter to the Editor in the SMH, the Letters Editor comments on the letters of the past week (obviously we are not alone on this subject):

Mean-spirited revenge, craven pandering to right-wing MPs or a fair call based on an assessment of Kevin from Queensland's personal failings, the Rudd Snub divided opinion this week.

First reactions were unfavourable to Prime Minister; he was either playing petty politics or a puppet of the right in declining to nominate Rudd to be the UN's top nabob. There were also those who thought Turnbull missed the chance to play his hand more cleverly; nominating Rudd, thereby demonstrating his independence from the right, all the while knowing Rudd had little chance of claiming the prize.

But as reaction quickly came to dominate our inbox, readers began to voice approval. "Mr Turnbull has protected Australia from recommending an unsuitable person to the international community for the UN job," Heather Torkington, of Bargara, in Queensland, wrote. "He is to be admired for making an honest decision when others have not."

Rudd's Mandarin skills and leadership during the global financial crisis won praise but his release of letters detailing his version of discussions with Turnbull about his UN bid did not. "Rudd's passive-aggressive response to Malcolm Turnbull's refusal ... goes a long way to confirming he is not suited to the position," Kate Barton, of Forest Lodge, wrote, coining a new term, "Rudd rage". This could be used to describe "written verballing", she suggested.

Readers nominated other Australians for the job. "We don't want Rudd, who appears to throw a wobbly whenever he doesn't get his way," John Nickel, from Noosa Heads, said. "Perhaps Julia Gillard, who was excellent at negotiating, would be a better choice." No one has been Secretary-General for longer than 10 years. Is Gillard's diary free next decade?

Spot on. :)
 
I really think being able to hold your temper should be a prerequisite for any sort of Leadership Position.
 
Meh. I don't think Rudd is alone amongst senior politicians. As for his attacks on Turnbull, half the LNP are working to bring down Turnbull.
 
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