Episode Day 31 (8/10/2014) Daily Show & Nominations

Oswin said:
I figured it was because of his “don’t care” comment toward her (flash-back while David was nominating). If their 'thing' isn't over, it at least appeared pretty rocky based on that comment (and Cat's response).
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What was this? I think I missed it?
 
I can't help it... I still really like Lawson (apart from the disrespectin' of his woman). >.<
 
Crush Ad said:
Seriously, someone needs to contact Alex about these stupid reason to nominate.. Priya shower for so long? He didnt like the burger? wtf?
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Remember the days you couldn't nominate just for not getting along with someone. BB would say - have you approached them about this etc? Way too easy to nominate.
 
Martin81 said:
I don't think that they were nodding and agreeing with her feeling bad for feeling bad as far as I remember. I thought they were nodding about the way she felt bad for not asserting herself in the situation. It is difficult, especially for young women, to assert themselves when they are half naked in a room with other people, but essentially she should be able to stand up for herself. Ultimately, if she had been able to say no, or suggested that she was very unhappy, it is quite likely that the situation would not have continued. She recognised that, she recognised that she had laughed along with it and had never said (from what we were actually shown) that they should stop. In terms of her feeling bad for him, the fact that she was laughing only goaded him on, I think, and she felt bad that maybe he would be blindsided by the fact that she was actually upset by his actions. I don't think anyone said to her that she was overreacting or agreed that she should feel bad for feeling horrible - only Sam did in the privacy of the diary room. Skye actually did say 'you don't have to feel bad' (as I recall).
Nevertheless, Sam should have read the situation better. He knows her just as well as anyone else, more than us. He should know better how she may react to such treatment, and he should have understood from the way she was behaving that it was inappropriate to do with her (perhaps not with everyone, but definitely with her). Priya realised this when she saw Aisha's face at the end and immediately went to rectify the situation.
Also, Travis did do the wrong thing. It's her battle, let her fight it. It made her look immature and embarassing to have her boyfriend go and fight her battles for her. He didn't actually listen to her when she said she was unsure whether she wanted him to say anything, and that she didn't know what to do right now. Gross macho, not to mention high-school immature, behaviour on his part.
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I think you have explained it all beautifully here in the first paragraph, totally agree with you.

On Travis though I think his heart was in the right place. He is a complete meat head but it's nice that he didn't trivialize her feelings, or question them, he wanted to look after her but not make her feel like she needs looking after, tried to keep others at bay because he has listened to what she says and tried to uphold that even though he clearly wanted to save/help her and be her hero. He should have let her talk to sam when she was ready but for the most shallow of guys on first impressions he really seems to want to do the right thing by Aisha, which is kind of sweet.
 
Butterfly_Wings said:
What do you like? The aggression - the bitching - the sour pussness - the houlier than thou - the fakeness - the showman with no substance LOL - the cheating is the least of his character flaws IMO
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........................ MAGIC!

Thanks for coming into my trap xD
 
What I learned from this ep

Sam is one manipulative kid, see how the way he told his "side" of the story about Travis confronting him to Sandra. He made it sound like Travis was gonna jump him or something. And the way how he relayed what Aisha said to him to Travis.

Travis isn't the brightest lightbulb either, "I'm gonna make you feel expensive" (to Aisha) 🤣 hahahaha

Sandra might have feelings for Sam? Centre of the universe? LoL
 
tinkerbelljones said:
Travis, did Jason force feed you the freaking chocolate??
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while I agree with your post.
It was a task to make the guests happy. Someone you know wants to get in/keep in shape. YOU DON'T give them choc on the pancakes. Did he send them back.
Worst group of slave/master-staff/guest on BB .
 
Thing said:
Travis nomming for the pancakes shows how thick he is, ....

1. he didn't have to eat it
2. send it back & ask for another one less the chocolate shit...
3. take your shirt off again...
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But considering they had a massive whinge fest that Aisha wanted her diner in the microwave for a few more seconds....
 
twinsmum said:
I think this is my biggest issue tonight as well? I missed a bit of it and honestly I don't know what I thought of the whole drama but I feel like all in all they are actually perpetuating a pretty dangerous attitude. And maybe she did feel genuinely conflicted or confused about it all but I mean the editors decision to put that in, as well as the HMs reactions. They must have known what they're doing and for a show thats selling itself as 'family friendly' even though it starts near 9pm. I just think, its pretty bad to be modelling that, could be pretty dangerous in the long run.Nearly bleeds into victim blaming. I'm not saying thats what happened tonight, but I feel like that's what it could so easily turn into. Sorry I might be being an overanxious and very tired mum at the moment!! I definitely am. But from where I stand I never want my kids to feel bad for feeling bad, or feeling anything. We have emotions and feelings for a reason...don't shame them.

Sorry I haven't really said anything different just wanted to add my 2c, but I agree with everything you said!)
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I totally agree with you about being careful about victim blaming and I felt quite upset watching this and seeing how she reacted afterwards. And of course she can vent her upset after the fact, particularly being in shock. But I also think its really important that people take at least some responsibility for situations and learn from them. She needs to learn how to tell other people no, and to take control of herself or people are going to walk over her for her whole life. It is certainly not right for him to have treated her like this (not trying to victim blame), but also, unfortunately, the world is full of people who will cross the line and be inappropriate to you. Its your responsibility to ensure that you have your boundaries and you assert them clearly. This is what she must learn, with reflection, from a situation like this. She is young though, so I recognise that it was difficult - it took a few situations like this to get through to me.
He was in the wrong though, and if he had been kind and paid attention to her reactions she would not have needed to even say no, he could have seen it from the way she was acting.
 
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