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Big Brother Australia 2022 - Back To The Future - Pre-season build up

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Yeah the only way a Sun-Wed format could work to it's best ability is the BBUS/CAN structure. There is still room for a Sun-Fri format IMO, it's not like anything else is going to rate better on a weekend, but Ten is the only channel willing to do it that could do it. But I still don't see why 7 can't just shorten the cast size and even just use the US format even pre-recorded? It's made way too complicated and bloated unnecessarily.

Rewatching the 2013 series has reminded me how awkward the scheduling was. Ideally you'd want the eviction to be as close to Sunday night as possible. Having an eviction on Mondays wasn't that bad it's just having the eviction show muddled with a daily show that has to air three nights of content in less than 40 minutes. The shift to Wednesday evictions allowed for the Monday show to offer more time for content, but the eviction episode needs to either end the week or begin it. It felt awkward watching an eviction then following with Thursday and Friday straight after.
 
bleachy_dude said:
Woah what is this? I’d never heard of it … just googled it and it has 37 season in the US wow.
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The format tends to vary, but think of it like Survivor/BBUS if it was solely populated by former castmates including Love Island, The Bachelor etc. (literally)

10 are broadcasting a local version later this year, which is heavily subsidised by Paramount because they’re borrowing the setups from the other international versions. Winners of our version will go on to face off against other winners in a digital only series.

Main reason I’m looking forward to it is because if it works, it may be what’s needed to prove there’s an appetite for an international Survivor showdown.
 
If they were to go back to the original format. They really could do that on Ten. As previously mentioned, BIP was axed in 2020, The Bachelor is flopping, AS is kinda meh. Also, Neighbours in also being dropped. Which means a major gap in programmes. Doing a watch through of the Ten era and then seeing this year’s series come to fruition. It really shows the absolute disconnect Seven have with the show.
 
For me my main problem with the show is Channel 7 are really trying to make it very Survivor like show with how everything is set up because they have seen the success of Australian Survivor on channel 10 (even with all it's editing problems etc) and have made it no secret they have been jealous of the success it has had. It's trying to create a fusion of the old big brother we grew up and loved and trying to bring elements of the BBCAN/US format mixed with Survivor. Even the challenges are very survivor like as I don't want to be watching an indoors version of Survivor. If I want to watch Survivor, I will watch Survivor. They got the former EP from Survivor to produce the show and you can tell it has a lot of mixed opinions. I would be fine if they kept things like the shopping tasks etc but made it more like the US/Canada format (add in a veto after the HOH challenge). And in order to do that, you need live feeds so we the viewers can see what is actually going on like we had back in the 10 era before they got rid of it. That was some of the best stuff from the show came from the feeds.
 
I think the one thing which will always be the deal breaker is it being pre-recorded. The format itself whilst not flawless is pretty solid, and the editing perhaps wouldn't be as annoying if it was being edited as the series aired rather than with producers knowing the ulitimate outcome and pushing their own favourites forward rather than who the viewers want to see.

What worries me about the nod to the original format Tim has hinted at is they'll end up satisfying fans of neither as both will likely be compromise the other.
 
bleachy_dude said:
Woah what is this? I’d never heard of it … just googled it and it has 37 season in the US wow.
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The show in recent years takes itself WAY too seriously. Back in the day it was to watch what happened when they took people from The Real World/Road Rules, threw them in a house together, and made them compete in challenges. Nowadays it’s all about physical game and massive physical fights etc.

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Yes, it's been Jersey Shored a bit too much in recent years and is basically a pension for MTV reality stars (and increasingly Big Brother ones too). The basic premise is good but the execution in recent years is off putting.

Guess if Ten do a local one they might use some Ten alumni Big Brother stars alongside Survivor and Bachelors.
 
Brekkie said:
Yes, it's been Jersey Shored a bit too much in recent years and is basically a pension for MTV reality stars (and increasingly Big Brother ones too). The basic premise is good but the execution in recent years is off putting.

Guess if Ten do a local one they might use some Ten alumni Big Brother stars alongside Survivor and Bachelors.
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They’ve started doing an All-Stars series on Paramount+ which brought back a lot of OG players that hadn’t done a challenge in a while. It was a slight improvement over the regular series but keeping the challenges the same meant it’s still about brute forcing your way to the end.

TJ Lavin is also unbearable as host. I also suspect it’s his influence that’s pushed the show in to what it’s become.

As for the AU version I think it will be DOA. The Challenge is an American beast that I don’t think Australian’s will warm to.
 
Something interesting to note about the potential BBUK revival is how ITV have changed their funding model.

ITV now use a single budget across all platforms that commissioners can pull from rather than each service having its own budget.

This will allow shows to be commissioned based on where they’ll best fit rather than what the service can afford.

It will be interesting to see if this model works as well as it sounds and whether it will be adapted elsewhere.
 
TBH Love Island gets better figures than many of the shows at 9pm in the main slot on ITV now, so it's a budget for the show rather than the channel. That said as much as they say it's one big budget they'l be caveats within that - the BBC said something similar a couple of years ago about commissioning for genres rather than channels but there are clearly limits within that.


Back to Australia and although Nine tried it originally with Love Island being on 9Go and 9Now I just don't think there is the will in the Aussie market to invest heavily in the spin-off channels, and certainly when it comes to reality franchises the Aussie networks need them week in, week out whilst the main UK channels have a much greater mix of content, so whilst Celebrity Big Brother might find a home on ITV itself for three weeks a year they wouldn't be so willing to sacrifice a nightly slot for 2-3 months for a civilian series - though perhaps could accomdate a US style three night a week schedule. That's where ITV2 is a much better fit as it's basically new content at 9pm or Family Guy.


What I really don't understand with the Aussie networks is they're willing to go head to head with their big money reality franchises four nights a week but the networks not showing live sport on Thursday and Friday aren't particularly willing to compete with their flagship shows then, even though the NRL/AFL ratings for early season games at least aren't anything to write home about.
 
Brekkie said:
I think the one thing which will always be the deal breaker is it being pre-recorded. The format itself whilst not flawless is pretty solid, and the editing perhaps wouldn't be as annoying if it was being edited as the series aired rather than with producers knowing the ulitimate outcome and pushing their own favourites forward rather than who the viewers want to see.

What worries me about the nod to the original format Tim has hinted at is they'll end up satisfying fans of neither as both will likely be compromise the other.
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Agreed. They shove their favourites down your throat whereas under the old format where it was live the edit was far more even and if someone wasn't getting much airtime it was usually because they were pretty dull.

But yeah if you want a Survivor type format you can't have 8 non elimination episodes (at least) and people getting saved left, right and centre based on whether the show wants them on longer or not either. That's not remotely a fair strategic game. So yeah basically as you it satisfies neither type of fan ATM.
 
Kingston said:
They’ve started doing an All-Stars series on Paramount+ which brought back a lot of OG players that hadn’t done a challenge in a while. It was a slight improvement over the regular series but keeping the challenges the same meant it’s still about brute forcing your way to the end.

TJ Lavin is also unbearable as host. I also suspect it’s his influence that’s pushed the show in to what it’s become.

As for the AU version I think it will be DOA. The Challenge is an American beast that I don’t think Australian’s will warm to.
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I think maybe a late night version whereby they got a similar number of trashy people to the US series might be somewhat entertaining, but I'm assuming they will run it during primetime and sanitise it to where it's all going to be about mateship, loyalty and the challenges themselves, which will end up being pretty dull pretty quickly.
 
Hunter's_Mckay said:
I think maybe a late night version whereby they got a similar number of trashy people to the US series might be somewhat entertaining, but I'm assuming they will run it during primetime and sanitise it to where it's all going to be about mateship, loyalty and the challenges themselves, which will end up being pretty dull pretty quickly.
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Wouldn’t be shocked if it ran for a couple of episodes before moving it to Paramount+. As it’s part of a worldwide franchise I don’t expect it to be too far off from the American version. Winners from all four or the international series will compete in The Challenge: War of the Worlds.
 
Look I'm just gunna let myself be excited and not be a cynical old man about it. I PRAY they focus on the relationships playing out rather than the gameplay. I love all these returning housemates. Picking Tim to win again.
 
chriskicks said:
Look I'm just gunna let myself be excited and not be a cynical old man about it. I PRAY they focus on the relationships playing out rather than the gameplay. I love all these returning housemates. Picking Tim to win again.
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Don’t get your hopes up too much. Based on the previews we’ve had so far the show is still heavily edited and contrived.
 
Sodramatic claiming that Skye was cast but was cut very late minute due to comments made on social media.

May be preying on confirmation bias, but I believe it; there were a lot of weird puff pieces that suddenly popped up about her around filming time, then disappeared just as quickly after that happened.
 
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