Winterbourne
Unfallen Icarus
If Tim does exactly what he said he'd do to Mike Goldman on that podcast the that'll be good.
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Tim Dormer back in the House
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Winterbourne
Unfallen Icarus
Both Celebrity Big Brother and the unleaded one in the UK this summer had loads of info coming in from the outside. It is just the zeitgeist of Big Brother 2014. It is not our father's Big Brother, but I can wait it out before just saying it is rubbish because it isn't the same as it once was.
hazzamusic
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I think Tim saying Big Brother only called him up a couple of days ago and asked him if he had any plans is rubbish... why else would he have been in the earlier promos? Yes, maybe it was just to garner attention, but it was the way that they used him in the ad that makes it seem suss to me. I think that they had planned this to happen all along, but perhaps they hadn't envisioned it happening (or needing to happen) so early on in the series.
I'm not too clear on how the eviction will go, but I am sure now that if it is Gemma and Jake that go, the producers will somehow rig it so that only one person out of the pair goes, because I think that Jake being paired with Gemma was not actually meant to happen - I think that Jake is probably a really interesting person, but has not been able to 'come out of his shell' simply because he is paired with Gemma...
Maybe Tim will be made HOH and gets to save one housemate of the pair evicted (in which case he would probably save Jake, and then when the pair is evicted they will be split up and Jake will be lead back into the diary room where Tim will be waiting for him to tell him that they are going back into the house together but that they aren't allowed to reveal that they know each other to the other housemates as a challenge, and that if the housemates find out then he gets evicted automatically, or something like that) I can just imagine Sonia on stage asking Gemma, 'You're probably wondering why your partner Jake isn't here with you, right? Let's go live to the house to find out why...'
I think that Jake is the kind of housemate who would evolve over a series, whereas Gemma is emotional and was put in the house to cause tension early on in the series. I think that every year they put people in like that who they think will crack it early on to generate entertainment while the other housemates slowly come out of their shells in the background, but putting Jake with Gemma kind of cramped his style and the producers are probably regretting it big time.
I also think that the TV industry is just like any other industry, it's not what you know but who you know that matters - just think about your own careers, sure it's supposed to be an even playing field, but it always helps to know the boss of a company when you go for an interview. I have a feeling that Tim, growing up with a father who was the headmaster of his own school would have grasped this concept from a very early age.
I'm not too clear on how the eviction will go, but I am sure now that if it is Gemma and Jake that go, the producers will somehow rig it so that only one person out of the pair goes, because I think that Jake being paired with Gemma was not actually meant to happen - I think that Jake is probably a really interesting person, but has not been able to 'come out of his shell' simply because he is paired with Gemma...
Maybe Tim will be made HOH and gets to save one housemate of the pair evicted (in which case he would probably save Jake, and then when the pair is evicted they will be split up and Jake will be lead back into the diary room where Tim will be waiting for him to tell him that they are going back into the house together but that they aren't allowed to reveal that they know each other to the other housemates as a challenge, and that if the housemates find out then he gets evicted automatically, or something like that) I can just imagine Sonia on stage asking Gemma, 'You're probably wondering why your partner Jake isn't here with you, right? Let's go live to the house to find out why...'
I think that Jake is the kind of housemate who would evolve over a series, whereas Gemma is emotional and was put in the house to cause tension early on in the series. I think that every year they put people in like that who they think will crack it early on to generate entertainment while the other housemates slowly come out of their shells in the background, but putting Jake with Gemma kind of cramped his style and the producers are probably regretting it big time.
I also think that the TV industry is just like any other industry, it's not what you know but who you know that matters - just think about your own careers, sure it's supposed to be an even playing field, but it always helps to know the boss of a company when you go for an interview. I have a feeling that Tim, growing up with a father who was the headmaster of his own school would have grasped this concept from a very early age.
Slowly, the HMs are realizing that Magic Man is the Reggie of 2014. He has quiet charm.
Knave of Heart
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There won't be pairs anymore after the first eviction? Then why the hell did they pair them in the first place? It's ridiculous!
Yes things do change but the changes that Channel 9 and the executive producers Alex and Chris have made has created a pale version of what Big Brother is about.
First off this show/social experiment was originally meant to be able to be watched 24/7 with cameras available to watch on the official website. Now we only get shown the producers edits on the daily show. Back in 2001 you could watch the house online. Now in 2014 we have nothing. How is this possible with how far technology has advanced. Other country Big Brother's get live feeds. Even Big Brother US who originally didn't have a live feed until a few years ago. People here have suggested a live feed on delay. Fair enough if channel 9 are worried about inappropriate things happening in the house and don't want to get into trouble. But no that is not even an option. Alex says that no one would watch the feeds and nothing ever interesting happens. This is a big fat lie. It is just a poor excuse for no live feeds. The past two years they have provided a twitter account with few words of what was going in the house every hour and so. They also had a few short videos every day. That was the bare minimum. Now they can't even provide that.
2. Contrived content. Housemates can no longer think by themselves. Big Brother must direct and start conversations for housemates. In the channel 10 days housemates naturally talked about various topics on their own free will and the program managed to be fine then.
3. Adult content disappeared. Having an adults only/un-cut show was crucial to getting a whole picture of housemates personalities of the show that couldn't be aired at 7.00pm. Many times us viewers were shocked that housemates came off very nice in the daily show but in the uncut show it was like they were a completely different person with their comments/actions on adult issues etc. Why is it so hard for them to create a adult content show with highlights of adult conversations in the week without a contrived party asking the housemates to discuss adult issues. The nudity was nice ( in my opinion haha!) but it was never really the point of the uncut show. The adult conversations were and I have no idea why they are scared to bring back uncut without the nudity. The sad thing is the people and politicians who complain about the sexual content on Big Brother are the people who are not BB's demographic at all and wouldn't even watch Big Brother in the first place no matter how family friendly they make it.
4. Treating viewers like children. Like I said above the demographic who complain about Big Brother would not watch the show no matter how kid friendly it gets. Yes children watch Big Brother but those same ones should be in bed after 9.00pm and not watching the adult show. It is not Big Brother's responsibility to watch its content for parents who do not monitor their kids. Teenagers (15+) are mature enough to watch the adult show. I did at 15 and I turned out TV. (Simpsons joke
) I turned out fine. Surely the violence on the other channels at that time are more offensive then adult conversations on the show. There's also a parental lockout on most Digital TV sets. If worried parents can't lock out MA 15+ for their children perhaps they are not smart enough to be a parent and let their kids watch TV in the first place. Anyway by treating the viewers like children I mean things like Surly the fish. Only little kids would be entertained by that.5. Manipulating outcomes for ratings/to get the result they want. They did this in 2008 and 2012. They either held lines open until they got the winner they wanted and/or revealed the voting graphs before lines closed. I believe Alex worked on both these seasons. In 2008 they wanted grandmother Terri winning so they could have the title "oldest BB winner worldwide". In 2012 the producers wanted Benjamin to win so he could propose to his boyfriend at the finale and could say they had the first gay marriage proposal. This is not on. Voting results should never be revealed until after the evictee/winner is announced. Who knows what outcomes 2008 and 2012 could have had. I think this is so wrong the executive producers did this and it's a laugh if you think this is ok and you are a BB purist. What would original executive producer Peter Abbott say?
6. Favourites. Is it just me or does anyone else notice that since BB has came back to Nine that Big Brother suddenly has favourites? We never had this in the Channel 10 version. Frankly it puts you off the show when the producers push a favourite down your throat. Are we really that stupid (the viewers) to be told who to like? Frankly it does the opposite effect to me. Favourites should never be picked by the producers. All players should be equal. Tell the story of how it actually is in the house.
The producers favourites for 2012: Bradley and Michael
2013: Ben
After writing all of this it's clear that Alex has no respect for Big Brother and the viewers. So many things the executive producers have done are morally wrong.
Can anyone add anything to my list or elaborate? I need to sit down.
Rison
Wahoo!
Well, this Perfect Pairs task is the best task ever in any international Big Brother series. This task is so amazing, they've also opted to not air crucial parts of it - including the fourth initial competition that took place after "Travis/Cat vs Gemma/Jake" - because Australia cannot handle it's awesomeness. YAY SARCASM!
Instead of opting to pair them together at the beginning of Week 2, it was decided to pair them together from the very beginning 'just because'.
Jacqueline
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Very well put, Lucas, agree with it all 
One of the BBUS seasons had a couple of 'all stars' go in mixed with the regular HMs.
I think @Timdormer is perfect to go in and ruffle it up, I've just listened to the podcast -- he wants to rally the misfits, rattle the cool group. Say what needs to be said and now even more I believe that he can actually get this season back on track in a perfect way. So excited to see what happens.
I think @Timdormer is perfect to go in and ruffle it up, I've just listened to the podcast -- he wants to rally the misfits, rattle the cool group. Say what needs to be said and now even more I believe that he can actually get this season back on track in a perfect way. So excited to see what happens.
LoverofLyonne
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Agreed. Meathead boys, token sour face sydney socialite, Skye is a gimmick for all she may be genuine, Jake is trying to be Tim 2.0. Lawson I like, Katie and Cat may as well be the same person. Aisha is Tahan crossed with Jade. Gemma is painful. David is not getting a fair go and for all that Priya is a savvy player I'm not sure how many fans she has. Jason is the token quirky gay guy.
The house doesn't gel properly. The housemates don't come across as genuine and while the episodes are getting better it's ckearly highly edited and pushing the housemates the producers want us to like. It's just not doing it for me. I think killing the live feeds was an epically bad decision on the producers part.
LoverofLyonne
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I don't think they did themselves any favours by putting it on after The Block. It should have been building viewership in the first few weeks but I think the later time slot means a lot of people aren't bothering to watch it.
To me, this is hitting the nail right on the head. It is on too late.
LoverofLyonne
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I really hope that happens. I think it would be really interesting to send Tully and Drew in. Stir up some drama.
I am struggling to watch it in live time. I tape it and watch 3 eps in a row.
It is too late for me. As a worker who needs to be an early riser, the time slot is too late for me