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THE VIRUS 2020 - the good, the bad, and the ugly

Drama said:
Europeans enjoying their summer, vaccination is progressing faster, things getting closer to normality. Looks likes another winter in Australia with lockdowns.
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You should live in Europe. Somewhere with no internet so you can get the full experience.
 
Virgin's Boeing 737-800 can fit 174 passengers when packed. I wonder how many potential COVID infected there are from these flights?
 

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What a useless man. At least now it seems people who were all, "Vic doing bad" are now seeing or admitting we have been suffering in large part due to the Federal Government shirking their responsibilities.


Affable said:
Virgin's Boeing 737-800 can fit 174 passengers when packed. I wonder how many potential COVID infected there are from these flights?
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Apparently low passenger flights.

It will be interesting to see if any passengers get the virus. Considering everyone is meant to wear masks on board and the cabin air is meant to be replaced every few minutes. Is this good enough?

From my experiences flying during the pandemic. Aircrews always seemed to be doing the right thing with masks. Passengers not so much. All the standard bad mask habits. Not coving noses, fabric masks that probably don't do much etc. Regardless of that, you take them off to eat and drink during meal service.

The replacement of cabin air is likely to be the biggest safety factor aboard airplanes. Aerosol spread mainly happens by the virus particles being suspended in air, and the amount building up over time as an infected person breaths out. This is why outside, and places with good ventilation and air flow are low risk. The amount of virus in the air isn't allowed to build up. As it would in an environment like a car with the windows shut.

So crew members wearing masks, passengers partially wearing masks and the air constantly being exchanged should be a low-risk environment for transmission. If it turns out not to be the case, there are implications about the safety measures we've been told.
 
up_all_night said:
Apparently low passenger flights.

It will be interesting to see if any passengers get the virus. Considering everyone is meant to wear masks on board and the cabin air is meant to be replaced every few minutes. Is this good enough?

From my experiences flying during the pandemic. Aircrews always seemed to be doing the right thing with masks. Passengers not so much. All the standard bad mask habits. Not coving noses, fabric masks that probably don't do much etc. Regardless of that, you take them off to eat and drink during meal service.

The replacement of cabin air is likely to be the biggest safety factor aboard airplanes. Aerosol spread mainly happens by the virus particles being suspended in air, and the amount building up over time as an infected person breaths out. This is why outside, and places with good ventilation and air flow are low risk. The amount of virus in the air isn't allowed to build up. As it would in an environment like a car with the windows shut.

So crew members wearing masks, passengers partially wearing masks and the air constantly being exchanged should be a low-risk environment for transmission. If it turns out not to be the case, there are implications about the safety measures we've been told.
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Have noticed that some people don't put their masks back on properly after taking them off for the meal service part of the flight.
 
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The current state of (Covid) affairs in Australia (from news.com.au)

NSW: The total cases have risen to 102 infections, with this number expected to rise, and the Greater Sydney, the Blue Mountains, Central Coast, Wollongong and Shellharbour areas have been placed in lockdown until July 7
QLD: Queensland has recorded two new cases of community transmissions, with authorities believing that one case may have visited several venues in Brisbane and the Sunshine Coast while infectious. Despite this, the strain has been linked to the UK variant, rather than the highly-contagious Delta strain currently spreading through Sydney. As a result, the one person per two square meter rule restrictions has been reinstated. Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said new restrictions will be implemented from tomorrow 6am.
NT: The territory has recorded four new cases of the virus after a miner was infected during his stay in a quarantine hotel in Brisbane. Initial testing has led authorities to believe the latest infections are linked to the Delta variant and as a result Darwin, Palmerston and Litchfield have been placed into a 48-hour lockdown.
WA: The state has recorded one new case as a result of a returned traveler returning to Perth. The state has as a result implemented restrictions across its Perth and Peel areas, including mandatory masks where physical distancing isn't possible, the reinstatement of the two square metre rule, with public events restricted to 150 people.

(from the ABC)
VIC:Recorded O new cases, still has 44 active cases.
ACT: O cases
SA: Has a press conference this afternoon so suspect that will not be 0.
TAS:TBC
 
Where did the pro-lockdown types go? Why aren't they begging Palashay to call a lockdown as an immediate action against recent community transmission in Queensland?
 
Not liking the fact I can't work, but so be it. We could work the last time around, but I guess that's down to the Joh Bailey thing, this time around.
 
That wasn't the only eff up - Shellharbour have been very confused regarding the lockdown with very mixed messages over the last 24 hours.

www.abc.net.au

NSW government slammed for 'total incompetence' after city left out of lockdown alert

Shellharbour Mayor Marianne Saliba has lashed out at the government over its lockdown messaging, saying her constituents had no idea they were subject to restrictions until after they were imposed.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Bariliaro originally said they were not included yesterday according to the ABC.
 
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