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Jam
I don't like it
You are both so right. If I were my kids, I wouldn't marry either. I loved the idea of the big party, but it wasn't the production it is these days. When I married Mr Jam 2, we had a celebrant in the garden, catered ourselves and had all of our children as attendants. First time round was the whole catastrophe, but on a very small scale compared to weddings these days.
jessy_girl
Well-Known Member
A marriage certificate is just a formality to declare your love is real and you are commited to each other. You can do just the same without that "Bit of paper".
Yep, that's what I always maintain. I guess it's hard when 2 people want different things from a relationship, but if everyone is on the same page and agrees that it's a massive waste of money and kind of pointless, then it's great.
GROOVER
Ya bloody bugger
Say what ?If you are into polygamy Groover..
Haha you cheeky shit. Ok, I've had my rant in other threads today, so off to watch GODZILLA. He's a badass, good monster/lizard/mutant in this movie. Nighty night y'all.
Kismet
This IS me.
Miss Pudd,
IF you opted to be wed, I could officiate (legally) and it would cost you zip. Then you could run away and have a nice holiday and not have 19 toasters. WIN!!
Kismet
This IS me.
Nah. you can be in a defacto relationship for x time and be legally considered "wed" by common law so all the perks are there... oh if you are in a HETERO relationship. If you are gay you are screwed on all counts. THAT is a different rant all its own. IMO it sucks.
jessy_girl
Well-Known Member
There have been considerable advancements in the legal recognition of same sex relationships as far as tax and healthcare and the like goes, only a few years ago there was absolutely zeros recognition which sucked. It still has a loooong way to go and it does suck a lot.
I'm definitely going to count on you... Haha the lack of 19 toasters at the end of the day sounds like a modern day fairytaleMiss Pudd,
IF you opted to be wed, I could officiate (legally) and it would cost you zip. Then you could run away and have a nice holiday and not have 19 toasters. WIN!!
Actually yes, now that you say that, I remember that Labor during government amended almost 100 pieces of legislation to give same sex relationships the same rights as those of heterosexual ones. Well done them!
Marriage itself, however, is still off the agenda.
Kismet
This IS me.
Oh I agree there has been advancement but IMO it should not matter who you love. The most intense, loving, caring relationships I know, are that of gay friends. Some of them ooze so much LURV it near sickens me...lol but they are who they are...totally and utterly committed to each other. That type of relationship should not on any scale, be seen as LESS.
Jam
I don't like it
My Mr Jam's twin is a wonderful woman who has been in a stable, loving, generous relationship for 30 years. She and her wife are a fabulous example of loyalty, fidelity and generosity to our kids.
jessy_girl
Well-Known Member
Actually yes, now that you say that, I remember that Labor during government amended almost 100 pieces of legislation to give same sex relationships the same rights as those of heterosexual ones. Well done them!
Marriage itself, however, is still off the agenda.
Yeah it was a great move, it seems the pollies are very stubborn with marriage though which really sucks. Like, as I said, I don't intend to ever marry so it doesn't bother me on a personal level, but the fact that those who want to cannot is just illogical to me. No argument I've ever heard against it has made any sense to me.
jessy_girl
Well-Known Member
Agree 100%. I know it's a cliche, but look at the mess some heteros make of marriage, the abuse it like it's a right not a privilege versus some gay couples who are so committed and love.
Marriage should be a choice that everyone is free to chose to do or not do with the person they love. To not be able to have that choice seems so backwards in a country that considers themselves free. And to have the decision to even discuss it as an option for a Australia really be hindered by one man (if we can call Abbot that) is..... grrr I can't even find a word in my tired brain to describe it. but beyond idiotic.
Kismet
This IS me.
THAT is the the stuff I am talking about @Jam. Just that huge oozeball of love that comes from their collective pores. I sometimes wonder if a lot of Hetero's ( and lets face it, the majority of decision makers are at least hetero on paper...) cannot "GET" that kind of love because they never have and never will, experience it. When you are content and actually love someone, it's a fundamental need fulfilled.
A lot of people tend to run with wants over needs and that's where THEY err and therefore judge. ( perhaps too cryptic)
I am so happy for your Mr Jam's twin sis and her lovely partner. I wish them nothing less than continued joy and happiness in their life together.
Your post put me in a good mood again as I was in a pretty shitty one before so, thank you.
Jam
I don't like it
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They always put me in a good mood, too. They've both had a lot of real hard stuff to deal with; and I'm not talking first world problems. They have been unerring in their love for each other.
THAT is the the stuff I am talking about @Jam. Just that huge oozeball of love that comes from their collective pores. I sometimes wonder if a lot of Hetero's ( and lets face it, the majority of decision makers are at least hetero on paper...) cannot "GET" that kind of love because they never have and never will, experience it. When you are content and actually love someone, it's a fundamental need fulfilled.
A lot of people tend to run with wants over needs and that's where THEY err and therefore judge. ( perhaps too cryptic)
I am so happy for your Mr Jam's twin sis and her lovely partner. I wish them nothing less than continued joy and happiness in their life together.
Your post put me in a good mood again as I was in a pretty shitty one before so, thank you.
They always put me in a good mood, too. They've both had a lot of real hard stuff to deal with; and I'm not talking first world problems. They have been unerring in their love for each other.
jarrah
Well-Known Member
Apologies that the rant ahead is mostly unrelated but.....
F*ck I'm furious! Abbott is so-o-o concerned about "terrorism"....yeah, if it fits with his political and corporate agenda.
How about the terrorism that women live with every day? Where's the 'war on terror' for the women killed by their ex/partner every single week? Or the threat of rape and/or murder if we dare to go out at night, or, visibly stay in. Why is that ongoing daily terrorism so acceptable? So its ok for us to live with that real threat but radical of us to notice that the perpetrators are male? Why do so many males in our society grow up unable to cope when they don't get their way, so resort to intimidation, bashings or "seiges"? Why are adult men having tantrums that blow out into violence and murder? So much savagery from men who simply had their feelings hurt, or who didn't get what they wanted, or who felt overlooked.
We really need to change something about the way our society raises and educates its male population. And if we addressed that, it'd flow on that there'd be a lot less men with flags and guns inflicting their rage problems on the rest of us.
F*ck I'm furious! Abbott is so-o-o concerned about "terrorism"....yeah, if it fits with his political and corporate agenda.
How about the terrorism that women live with every day? Where's the 'war on terror' for the women killed by their ex/partner every single week? Or the threat of rape and/or murder if we dare to go out at night, or, visibly stay in. Why is that ongoing daily terrorism so acceptable? So its ok for us to live with that real threat but radical of us to notice that the perpetrators are male? Why do so many males in our society grow up unable to cope when they don't get their way, so resort to intimidation, bashings or "seiges"? Why are adult men having tantrums that blow out into violence and murder? So much savagery from men who simply had their feelings hurt, or who didn't get what they wanted, or who felt overlooked.
We really need to change something about the way our society raises and educates its male population. And if we addressed that, it'd flow on that there'd be a lot less men with flags and guns inflicting their rage problems on the rest of us.
Kismet
This IS me.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Tony Abbott is a stain and because he lives pretty much a "Stepford" existence, the issues you broach are not even on his radar. All you have to do is look at the "token" women in his Cabinet and the fact that Abbott HIMSELF is a "co" in the Ministerial "role"as Minister for Women. Apparently Michaelia Cash has no idea what it is to be a woman or what legalities women have right to, without HIS input. I believe his mindset is a "treat them mean, keep them keen" mentality so unfortunately the terror being part and parcel of many an Australian woman's daily existence is irrelevant to him. His silence on these issues speaks volumes.
It may cause discourse on here but as it IS the Rant thread, it should not matter.I truly believe his mindset revolves around his (personal)Christian beliefs. His LACK of addressing these unfortunate day to day issues that ARE happening in a country his Ego "rules" IMO makes HIM as much a supporter of terrorism, but just a form of terrorism he personally agrees with.