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I did wonder last night if she regretted her tattoos. They're so messy. There's no overall pattern. They just look like she got bored and doodled all over her arm with a biro during maths class.
Here's my perspective. I used to be in the Melbourne alternative music/nightclucb scene. I'm several years older than Tregan but she was someone I had met and knew through friends. Although never friends beyond social, 'hey i know you, what's up.' Sort of way. The only real memory I have is her correcting me on it being Tregan, not Tegan conversation.
This is quite a few years removed from me now. Anyway, that entire scene just went into tatts and really superficial scene image. People don't admit it, but tatts were kind of cool and then like 6 years ago they became super cool. Everyone started getting them. I had mates, guys and girls get a shit load of tatts.
It was for me a sign to get out. I didn't want to dedicate my life to the scene. I'm in law school now. Lets just say, none of us post grads have sleaves and lots of tatts. Year i'm a snob when it comes to such things. Despite some of the best people i've ever known being heavily tatted. It was never me. It just became part of the scene. Almost a must.
My impression was the rock, punk, pop punky, emo, hardcore sort of music was getting more popular and the people right out of high school were getting fashion advice from the bands. I used to frequent Goo, Dwitch all the big melbourne nightclubs for this scene. It went from casual, whatever, to everyone being fashion conscience. I'm almost 29 now. However when I was about 23 the shift to, everyone having horrible tatts was well on it's way. Driven by the younger people. Tatts were common but not insane among most. However it sort of just fed off everyone.
Friends and people had a few. The minority had a lot. However it began to shift to where the majority had a lot. I used to know gorgeous girls, stunning girls. With the most distracting tatts.
I never got any. For me, I still had my some what privileged background snobbery to tatts. I was too rational also. So never got any, or wanted any.
She sort of comes right smack in the middle of that trend. Everyone was getting tatts.
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eliza
Active Member
I've also noticed the trend of the random tattoos very similar to Tregans, just yesterday there was a girl walking down the main street near my place and she had a pinup girl on her calf and heaps of random colourful ones on her arms. This same crowd also often have ear fleshies,
I guess it is just a more extreme version of the original Punks from the late 70's early 80's. Each generation thinks they are they are the first to be outrageous and individual.
I guess it is just a more extreme version of the original Punks from the late 70's early 80's. Each generation thinks they are they are the first to be outrageous and individual.
zac
Active Member
Admittedly I never had a good look at the tattoos as the muddy mess looked even worse when I was catching up online. The high compression made her arm look diseased!
I wonder if it really is a fashion statement (as in looks attractive) or is it more about sending a message to everyone that "I don't give a f*ck what people think of me"? I guess that sort of attitude fits well with the alternative/nightclub scene.
I wonder if it really is a fashion statement (as in looks attractive) or is it more about sending a message to everyone that "I don't give a f*ck what people think of me"? I guess that sort of attitude fits well with the alternative/nightclub scene.
eliza
Active Member
Who knows? tatts have been around for years most of the male nurses I work with who are in their 40's and 50's have them. However the who gives a f*ck attitude isn't a bad one until you try and find a job in a field where obvious tatts are not considered acceptable. Having said that, these days there probably aren't too many jobs like that.
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aylaah
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Oh those ear things bug me. I'm all for expression, and aside from I guess hands/head you can cover tatts if you want - I don't find them attractive on women especially the heaps of them look, but whatever. But the ears, what will do you when you tire of them? Those holes are permanent and they are ugly when you quit and take them out. And you can't hide it. I'd be way too scared to mutilate my body in that way. When I see 17 and 18yo kids doing it I just think, gah! I probably would have thought it was 'cool' then too, but now at 30 I don't - and I'd be stuck with it? No thanks :\
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Emcee
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What would you do when you wanted to stop the yucky ear things? You'd need some sort of plastic surgery to fix them, surely?
What would you do when you wanted to stop the yucky ear things? You'd need some sort of plastic surgery to fix them, surely?
I don't think people see beyond the present.
As I said above, to me it seemed like dedicating your life to the scene. I don't think most people think how they'll be 5, 10, 20, 40 years down the track.
I always looked at it like. How often do I throw out clothes I would never wear because I don't like them any more. How often i've bought an item of clothing and never worn it. So what are the chances i'll get a picture drawn on me I would always like has got to be very low.
I think what happens is, people get a tatt. They hang around people who will be all, "oh cool." They feed off that and then get more and more. They open the flood gate.
Most people claim tatts have meanings. However most don't. It's stuff they think looks cool at the time. Or some saying that they think is deep. Like "one life one chance." When it's not at all.
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wynter
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I have a niece in her early 30's who has about 15 tats. They're not big ones and it's not a sleeve or anything, just small ones randomly placed all over her body..shoulder, ankle, inside wrist, upper arm etc. Her largest is about 5cm square but she now says it's the stupidest thing she ever did in her life. She got them in her early 20's and like UAN says, there isn't too much about what she liked in her early 20's that she still likes. Her taste in artwork has definitely matured. And they're all smudged and blurred now. She has to keep having them fixed but like she says, she can't keep doing that forever, she's going to end up with muddy blobs that she'll have to get lasered off which will be almost as bad. But like she said, there would have been nothing anyone could have said to her at the time to talk her out of getting them. Some people get them and love them for life but I'd imagine there are a fair few who don't. I'll bet there are plenty of young women who got the trendy super cool tramp stamps when they first because popular too...it was a bit late once they lost favour.
Yeah the thing is with her, compared to people now. Is that getting large tatts became the norm.
People would get the odd tatt. often concerned about where they could cover it up. Then all of a sudden, replicating people from bands ect. They started getting larger and larger ones. I used to be friends with girls, younger than me who had big chest tatts. It's like wtf?
I've got an 18 year old cousin ans she got a big design up her side. Literally waist to armpit. Like wtf? When I was 18 if girls got a tatt, they may get something on their hip or something. Or back of the shoulder, or upper arm ect.
I guess it works like all forms of advertising. People see "cool" people enjoying coke, wearing nice clothes or whatever. They think if they have that product it'll make them also cool. With tatt's it's the same process at work. it's also got the self-expression angle built into it. Encouraging it more.
I have to say, i prefer people who get tatts they at least thought of. Instead of people who get that horrible "Tatt" design crap that is literally meaningless. Black swirls or flames or whatever. Like Beau's tatt.
There's also the whole tribal identification crap that goes into it. It's part and parcel. It's the cool thing to do. Also not getting one, is being outside of the group. Also the whole pushing boundaries, rebelling, finding yourself crap young people do.
It'd be a great investment to open tattoo removal parlors. In the next 5-10 years that'll blow up when everyone is in their 30s with horrible large tatts they can't easily cover.
People would get the odd tatt. often concerned about where they could cover it up. Then all of a sudden, replicating people from bands ect. They started getting larger and larger ones. I used to be friends with girls, younger than me who had big chest tatts. It's like wtf?
I've got an 18 year old cousin ans she got a big design up her side. Literally waist to armpit. Like wtf? When I was 18 if girls got a tatt, they may get something on their hip or something. Or back of the shoulder, or upper arm ect.
I guess it works like all forms of advertising. People see "cool" people enjoying coke, wearing nice clothes or whatever. They think if they have that product it'll make them also cool. With tatt's it's the same process at work. it's also got the self-expression angle built into it. Encouraging it more.
I have to say, i prefer people who get tatts they at least thought of. Instead of people who get that horrible "Tatt" design crap that is literally meaningless. Black swirls or flames or whatever. Like Beau's tatt.
There's also the whole tribal identification crap that goes into it. It's part and parcel. It's the cool thing to do. Also not getting one, is being outside of the group. Also the whole pushing boundaries, rebelling, finding yourself crap young people do.
It'd be a great investment to open tattoo removal parlors. In the next 5-10 years that'll blow up when everyone is in their 30s with horrible large tatts they can't easily cover.
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wynter
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Yeah, I agree. You see some tats that are quite artistic and I can see the art value of them because they can stand alone as an artistic design but then you see the mass random ones all compressed together that just look like a 1940's sailors tattoos. Some seem to have no rhyme or reason to them and it really puts me off. Often they're not even nice designs. They look like they're trying to pack as much ink into a small area as possible and it ends up looking like an indefined mess. It's a wonder they haven't invented some kind of ink that will fade away after a few years. It would probably increase their business. Re the tattoo removal parlours, even the best removal job isn't that great. They never seem to be able to completely get rid of them.
Each to their own, if someone wants to get tattoos for whatever reason then more power to them but it's not something I've ever wanted. I don't trust that I would like it in 5 or 10 or even next year as much as I'd like it when it was done.
Each to their own, if someone wants to get tattoos for whatever reason then more power to them but it's not something I've ever wanted. I don't trust that I would like it in 5 or 10 or even next year as much as I'd like it when it was done.
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wynter
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It was a bit odd last night that they flew half way across Australia, took a long ferry ride and then a 100+km drive just to do a masterclass. What was up with that? They only used honey and farmed WA marron which is pretty much available anywhere. Had they gone for local crays or some other fresh seafood that the island is famous for it would perhaps make more sense.
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aylaah
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The tribal tattoos are I believe meant to be family trees in Maori culture or something like that, so when people see a design they like and use it, there is every chance they are tattooing someone elses family tree on themselves. That's what I heard lol.
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
I find the concept of scratching/scraping/drilling MY SKIN by choice.............nuts.
My nephew Nick scared his beautiful golden smooth skinned young lovely arms with that crap......and I keep telling him I know he did it to piss off his bitch Mum, but it makes me cry..........those beautiful, dewy, smooth gorgeous arms.....gone............
My nephew Nick scared his beautiful golden smooth skinned young lovely arms with that crap......and I keep telling him I know he did it to piss off his bitch Mum, but it makes me cry..........those beautiful, dewy, smooth gorgeous arms.....gone............
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Emcee
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I need a wrap up of the results tonight.
Stupid channel ten decided to run late/long and my recording stopped before the show ended.
I saw up to Kylie's ice cream cones.
Stupid channel ten decided to run late/long and my recording stopped before the show ended.
I saw up to Kylie's ice cream cones.
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Vampires.Bite
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I cannot stand the chick with the blonde pony tail and glasses. Every time she appears on the screen I want to punch her!