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TraLa said:
Biologically there are two parents - the mother and the father.
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Always worth promoting that truth, so deem this to be a big +1 from me ... even though I've never met either of mine wot with being an adoptee and all.

... that there's the prime difference between sophistry and truth.

Feel free to go back and re-craft. :D

eliza said:
I thought that you said you were not involved in his life for some of the early years?
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Indeed I have shared things like not being around for his first birthday due to being over Cantberra on travel allowance for 6 weeks @ a time, etc, etc.

Doing the "work away from home" thang wot pollies, the military, resources workers, police, etc etc etc do and all that.

In fact, here is a photo from 1993 to break your hearts ... look how the little tyke is so obviously missing his daddy who is busy 4000km away earning the mortgage payments among other things.

He's missing me so much that he doesn't even see the cake or the strange orange glowing thing on top of it. :D

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... and judging by the similarly ignored candles and forlorn look on his face, it would seem he is still missing me in 1995, yes ?

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... cept ex and I had actually obtained our 5 acres in York by the time that particular happy snap had been taken and we were starting to put together our plans for owner building our new home upon it ... and the very same 5 acres he enjoyed having his 21st the other month.

In fact, here's another happy snap from 1995 ...

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And yes having Grandparents involved is fantastic ... Ideally, two happy well adjusted parents is a good thing ... As mentioned, having grandparents around is brilliant.
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That's another big +1 from me on the Grandparents thing. I also take my hat off to all those wonderful women out there who, albeit with the help of grandparents, are busy raising great kids while their husbands are oh so far away from home busy doing the bread-winning as they serve their country/nation in oh so many ways ... ways that range from taking up arms to defend our country through to taking up dynamite and bulldozers to dig up our country through to taking up comcars and travel allowance to hang out in Cantberra to argue government policy on behalf of local constituents through to simply desgining and writing software that make it easier if not more efficent for the beaucrazy to give other people's money away.

Mmmmm, it just wouldn't do to have such Atlas's to shrug from such service and duty ... we've just got to think of the children, yes ?

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:D

regarDS

PS: This episode of "sophistry and truth" was brought to you by the letters "H" and "A". ;)
 
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The definition of single parent is traditionally = parent without a partner, whether divorced, widowed, or whatever. It means a parent who isn't partnered or re-partnered.

Ironically many of us who had 2 parents never saw our Dad, mine worked 3 jobs to support 8 kids, then 2 when his small business took off. He was a workaholic, with PTSD, and I never knew who he was until about 10 years before he died, after my Mum died.

Many of us grew up with a mysterious father.
 
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derspatz said:
Indeed I have shared things like not being around for his first birthday due to being over Cantberra on travel allowance for 6 weeks @ a time, etc, etc.

Doing the "work away from home" thang wot pollies, the military, resources workers, police, etc etc etc do and all that.

In fact, here is a photo from 1993 to break your hearts ... look how the little tyke is so obviously missing his daddy who is busy 4000km away earning the mortgage payments among other things.

... cept ex and I had actually obtained our 5 acres in York by the time that particular happy snap had been taken and we were starting to put together our plans for owner building our new home upon it ... and the very same 5 acres he enjoyed having his 21st the other month.

Mmmmm, it just wouldn't do to have such Atlas's to shrug from such service and duty ... we've just got to think of the children, yes ?

regarDS
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Oh I misunderstood, I read the post below as you not being around much for the first 4 or so years, I didn't realise you were working away that whole time.

derspatz said:
The first time his mother and I separated was before he even turned one. I selfishly didn't see him all that much between then and when he was near four. His mother did a good job of NOT demonising me to him though and you'll never read of me writing or saying a bad word about her. I recken he looks more like her than me but there are those who disagree.

We actually work for the same company (basically on the same team even, though he isn't a shifty like me) now and he and I are booked to be flying off on a long overdue father and son (no lscp) snow related holiday in the near future.

Can't undo the past but we can always try for a better future, eh ?

regarDS
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Yes, when we acknowledge our mistakes but don't dwell on them we can can always try to do better in the future.

I take my hats off to all parents, most folk are attempting to be the best parents they can whatever their circumstances. I was lucky enough to have a very supportive family to help raise my child, others are not so lucky and who am I to judge them. In my work I have come across children in crisis who they come from all types of family backgrounds even sometimes SHOCK HORROR they are from a two parent family

I think most of us like to feel we contribute to the community whether it is through being in the paid workforce, choosing to be a stay at home parent or like my mum does now she has retired do volunteer work.

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derspatz said:
Indeed I have shared things like not being around for his first birthday due to being over Cantberra on travel allowance for 6 weeks @ a time, etc, etc.

Doing the "work away from home" thang wot pollies, the military, resources workers, police, etc etc etc do and all that.

In fact, here is a photo from 1993 to break your hearts ... look how the little tyke is so obviously missing his daddy who is busy 4000km away earning the mortgage payments among other things.


regarDS
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derspatz said:
The first time his mother and I separated was before he even turned one. I selfishly didn't see him all that much between then and when he was near four. His mother did a good job of NOT demonising me to him though and you'll never read of me writing or saying a bad word about her. I recken he looks more like her than me but there are those who disagree.

We actually work for the same company (basically on the same team even, though he isn't a shifty like me) now and he and I are booked to be flying off on a long overdue father and son (no lscp) snow related holiday in the near future.

Can't undo the past but we can always try for a better future, eh ?

regarDS
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You see Uncle Bernie, that there's the prime difference between sophistry and truth.

Feel free to go back and re-craft. :D

PS: This episode of "sophistry and truth" was brought to you by the letters "B" and "S" because it sounds to me like you're fucking full of it ;)

Ha!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
What a crock, how could huge TV channel make such a ridiculous error, within a second of seeing it I could tell it was a pathetic, racist attempt at a joke.
 
Today's episode of "sophistry and truth" is brought to you by "what was in that gluhwein at the xmas in July last night anyway ?" and today's benchmark for "truth" may as well be this:

[youtubevid]O8uhdI8p-bk[/youtubevid]

Okay, newzy bit observed / shared, it's on with the show :)

Meglos said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JYHNX8pdo

Not making light of the crash, but I reckon someone is taking the piss with those names.
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LOL ... aside from the drone on automatic who was utterly oblivious to what she had read out even after she had done so, so much for fact checking, eh ?

eliza said:
Yes, someone who is a racist and thinks it is humorous to ridicule the death of two young ladies.
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Nah, tis impossible to be racist when it comes to humans coz we are simply all the same race. It is possible to be ethnicist though and a reasonable sophistry could be constructed to argue that to make up and popularise joke names is to vilify anyone with similar sounding names.

It wouldn't make it either a truth or a fact though.

Anyhoo, whose got time to waste on made-for-the-moron-masses TV nuwz anyway, eh ?

Seriously, does anyone in here make a point of having the so called "evening news" going on TV when you are home ?

If so, how do you justify the energy costs ? :D

TraLa said:
You see Uncle Bernie, that there's the prime difference between sophistry and truth. Feel free to go back and re-craft. :D
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Are you sure that me retweaking the subtleties wouldn't be wasted on you ? :D

eliza said:
Oh I misunderstood, I read the post below as you not being around much for the first 4 or so years, I didn't realise you were working away that whole time.
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Yes you did, it's not all your fault, and I wasn't ... and cheers for reading. :D

Yes, when we acknowledge our mistakes but don't dwell on them we can can always try to do better in the future.
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That's another big plus one for me on that one too.

In fact, here is a mistake I wish to acknowledge but I'm happy for you to dwell on for as long as you like if it helps you do better in the future. :D

The mistake ? Not doing my own fact checking before claiming this:

"The first time his mother and I separated was before he even turned one. I selfishly didn't see him all that much between then and when he was near four."
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If only I'd paid closer attention to my photo collection and the timeline it presented rather than relying upon my own memory from around twenty years ago, yes ?

The fact of the matter is that the separation (and the catalyst for it) didn't actually take place until around a month AFTER numba1son turned one. OTOH, seeing as that particular 6 week stint in Cantberra commenced prior to him turning one and the separation commencing more or less the week I got back, I'm currently somewhat confused as to which point of time I supposed to not be dwelling the most upon.

Also, seeing as things were on the mend in early 1995, my claim of "was near four" seems to be somewhat the exaggeration as numba1son would have been turning three that year, so any period of selfishly not seeing him all that much would actually have been his age of one and a bit and three less a bit ... and during that time of absent fatherhood, as already stated, his mother doing a good job of NOT demonising me to him and instead promoted the incomplete reality that my employment took me a long long way a way for long long times, etc.

For what it is worth, she made sure that he still got to hear my voice via phonecalls from Cantberra, btw, as well as always encouraged me to spend time with him when back in Perth, regardless of the state of our own relationship. A top woman, I say ... though I don't think much of the kind of bloke she was married to at the time so prolly should dwell upon that, eh ? :D

kxk said:
The definition of single parent is traditionally = parent without a partner, whether divorced, widowed, or whatever. It means a parent who isn't partnered or re-partnered.
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Sounds about right to me, so you can have plus one too. :).

Ironically many of us who had 2 parents never saw our Dad, mine worked 3 jobs to support 8 kids, then 2 when his small business took off. He was a workaholic, with PTSD, and I never knew who he was until about 10 years before he died, after my Mum died.

Many of us grew up with a mysterious father.
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I hear you, kxk, and thought that last bit was worth bolding.

Still, I reckon a "mysterious father" figure, although perhaps less than ideal, would surely be better than the proliferation of "single parents" with multiple children to multiple partners and nary a worthwhile male influence (let alone father figure) in the kid's lives either at home or at school ?

Anyhoo, on the mysterious father figure thang, I couldn't find a youtube of Henry & junior's convo in the airship, so conjour up the "Indiana Jones" music in your own head as you read the following instead. :D

Indiana Jones: It was just the two of us, dad. It was a lonely way to grow up. For you, too. If you had been an ordinary, average father like the other guys' dads, you'd have understood that.

Professor Henry Jones: Actually, I was a wonderful father.

Indiana Jones: When?

Professor Henry Jones: Did I ever tell you to eat up? Go to bed? Wash your ears? Do your homework? No. I respected your privacy and I taught you self- reliance.

Indiana Jones: What you taught me was that I was less important to you than people who had been dead for five hundred years in another country. And I learned it so well that we've hardly spoken for twenty years.

Professor Henry Jones: You left just when you were becoming interesting.
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... and we're all in this together anyway. :)

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Okay, lunch time ... gunna have me some burnt toast and yogurt I think ... and not think about over-cloved mulled-wine with oranges and lemons bobbing around in it. I wonder if the smell of toast will wake LSCP up. lol.

regarDS
 
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From here, bolding mine.

The framing of George Zimmerman by the media and the prosecution was an utter disgrace. It was the racism that some reporters purported to denounce.

Thank God for America that a jury has found him not guilty. But as his defence counsel said, it should never have got that far. The jury prevented a “tragedy from being a travesty”.

Zimmerman’s lawyers foreshadow civil action. Some news organisations which doctored tapes, hid evidence and stirred up racial hatreds should be very, very worried. So should the celebrities who tried to direct a lynch mob to Zimmerman and his parents.

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Just one despicable example:

On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
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When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.
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Shame, shame on them.
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Ah, but left-ards are gunna be left-ards, eh ? :D

regarDS
 
Rudd's sister wants Putin-style homosexuality ban

From here: http://www.news.com.au/national-new...an/story-fnho52ip-1226678897017#ixzz2YyBBkyBj

KEVIN Rudd's sister wants Australia to introduce a Vladimir Putin-style ban on schoolchildren being taught about homosexuality.

Loree Rudd - who says she is unlikely to help her brother on election day because she opposes his support for gay marriage - believes the maverick Russian leader's hardline view on homosexuality is more enlightened than Western leaders.

"It's like he (Putin) can see the problem ahead," Ms Rudd, 62, who has just returned from a visit to Russia, said.

"I think that there should be a law (in Australia) protecting children from the propaganda of homosexuality as normal. They're trying to build their family life and structure in Russia and people in the West don't seem to understand our family life and structures are breaking down.

"I guess the bottom line, if there's one thing I can say that can't be challenged, it's that society needs to protect its children as best they can."

Ms Rudd, a nurse on Queensland's Sunshine Coast who once trained as a nun, revealed her brother rang her before he decided to go public about his decision to support gay marriage.

At first she figured Mr Rudd might "stick me near a church to help out" on election day but now she fears handing out flyers in his Brisbane electorate will be "hypocritical".

"I don't think I will do anything on election day," she said.

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"There's nothing wrong with loving someone of the same sex. It's normally called friendship. But when sex is involved in that (relationship), that's a different thing," she said.

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regarDS
 
From here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23303998

Brazilian man killed in his bed by falling cow

A cow has fallen through the roof of a house in south-eastern Brazil killing a man and narrowly missing his wife.

The one-tonne cow was grazing on a hill behind the small house, in the town of Caratinga, when it stepped onto the asbestos roof, which collapsed under its weight.

Joao Maria de Souza, 45, was lying in bed when the animal fell on him.

He was taken to hospital and died the day after, reportedly of internal bleeding.

Mr Souza was conscious and appeared to be in a good condition, but he had to wait too long to be seen by a doctor, relatives said.

Local media says this is the third such incident in the region in the past three years.

There were no casualties in the two previous incidents.

In the first occasion, there was no one inside the house when the cow fell through the roof.

In the second incident, a baby and a small child were sleeping next to the spot where the animal fell, in what was described at time as a miraculous escape.

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Fall through my roof once, shame on you ... but fall through it thrice ?

Moooooooooooooo-ve ! :D

regarDS
 
eliza said:
Yes, someone who is a racist and thinks it is humorous to ridicule the death of two young ladies.
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Ooops well that is awkward...

My laughter was meant in a very non racist ridiculing death kind of way.

Are you seriously telling me you didn't even crack a giggle?!
 
derspatz said:
Today's episode of "sophistry and truth" is brought to you by "what was in that gluhwein at the xmas in July last night anyway ?" and today's benchmark for "truth" may as well be this:

[youtubevid]O8uhdI8p-bk[/youtubevid]

Okay, newzy bit observed / shared, it's on with the show :)



LOL ... aside from the drone on automatic who was utterly oblivious to what she had read out even after she had done so, so much for fact checking, eh ?



Nah, tis impossible to be racist when it comes to humans coz we are simply all the same race. It is possible to be ethnicist though and a reasonable sophistry could be constructed to argue that to make up and popularise joke names is to vilify anyone with similar sounding names.

It wouldn't make it either a truth or a fact though.

Anyhoo, whose got time to waste on made-for-the-moron-masses TV nuwz anyway, eh ?

Seriously, does anyone in here make a point of having the so called "evening news" going on TV when you are home ?

If so, how do you justify the energy costs ? :D



Are you sure that me retweaking the subtleties wouldn't be wasted on you ? :D



Yes you did, it's not all your fault, and I wasn't ... and cheers for reading. :D



That's another big plus one for me on that one too.

In fact, here is a mistake I wish to acknowledge but I'm happy for you to dwell on for as long as you like if it helps you do better in the future. :D

The mistake ? Not doing my own fact checking before claiming this:



If only I'd paid closer attention to my photo collection and the timeline it presented rather than relying upon my own memory from around twenty years ago, yes ?

The fact of the matter is that the separation (and the catalyst for it) didn't actually take place until around a month AFTER numba1son turned one. OTOH, seeing as that particular 6 week stint in Cantberra commenced prior to him turning one and the separation commencing more or less the week I got back, I'm currently somewhat confused as to which point of time I supposed to not be dwelling the most upon.

Also, seeing as things were on the mend in early 1995, my claim of "was near four" seems to be somewhat the exaggeration as numba1son would have been turning three that year, so any period of selfishly not seeing him all that much would actually have been his age of one and a bit and three less a bit ... and during that time of absent fatherhood, as already stated, his mother doing a good job of NOT demonising me to him and instead promoted the incomplete reality that my employment took me a long long way a way for long long times, etc.

For what it is worth, she made sure that he still got to hear my voice via phonecalls from Cantberra, btw, as well as always encouraged me to spend time with him when back in Perth, regardless of the state of our own relationship. A top woman, I say ... though I don't think much of the kind of bloke she was married to at the time so prolly should dwell upon that, eh ? :D



Sounds about right to me, so you can have plus one too. :).



I hear you, kxk, and thought that last bit was worth bolding.

Still, I reckon a "mysterious father" figure, although perhaps less than ideal, would surely be better than the proliferation of "single parents" with multiple children to multiple partners and nary a worthwhile male influence (let alone father figure) in the kid's lives either at home or at school ?

Anyhoo, on the mysterious father figure thang, I couldn't find a youtube of Henry & junior's convo in the airship, so conjour up the "Indiana Jones" music in your own head as you read the following instead. :D



... and we're all in this together anyway. :)

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Okay, lunch time ... gunna have me some burnt toast and yogurt I think ... and not think about over-cloved mulled-wine with oranges and lemons bobbing around in it. I wonder if the smell of toast will wake LSCP up. lol.

regarDS
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Oh my God!

Ha!

Oh Ha!

Granted I still have left over giggles from inappropriately laughing at Sum Ding Wong, but you really are WAY too fucking funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
Uncle Bernie's Asian name would be Mem Ree Suk!!!!!!

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
eliza said:
What a crock, how could huge TV channel make such a ridiculous error, within a second of seeing it I could tell it was a pathetic, racist attempt at a joke.
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Does the fact I am still giggling at it mean I am going straight to hell?

I think I am going to call you Y-so Seri Us!

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
TraLa said:
Ooops well that is awkward...

My laughter was meant in a very non racist ridiculing death kind of way.

Are you seriously telling me you didn't even crack a giggle?!
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Nope, it's not in the least bit funny to me.

However

TraLa said:
Uncle Bernie's Asian name would be Mem Ree Suk!!!!!!

Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!
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I am ashamed to say, that made me laugh :eek::):o
 
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