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TraLa said:
Oh how cute!

Eliza has her first reinvented stalker for 2013!
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^ Another round of Captain Obvious here at BBBA. How about a game of...

But back to me...

I can remember when I first joined here last year, I discovered through a number of "who are you really?" PM's that a good many folks in here had decided that I myself was a reinvented BBB member of old. I'm really not you know. I had never been to this forum until I joined up last year, and the only reason I put Big Brother forum into my google search was because there was no forum on the BB site and after the fun I had in the channel 10 forums years before, I was in desperate need to find a forum purely designed for deranged BB fans.
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... spare me your (cyber) life story?

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If you believe it, that's all that matters.
 
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derspatz said:
No it isn't. Genuine regular shoppers are no doubt going to be very happy with how it keeps the turnover of available parking spots going and how they can be more or less guarenteed a spot within minutes to do their quicky shopping.

Besides, tis also a case of

"woolworth's land, woolworth's choice"

If you want a long term cheapish parking spot in Sydney, go join a bowling club or something !

regarDS
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I actually didn't think of it that way.

Well pointed out, if you haven't been able to do your food shopping in under an hour, you are doing it all wrong.
 
moonchild said:
At the probable risk of incurring Tralatrollop's wrath, thankyou for that response Bernie.


Meanwhile, I started being attacked by some effed up mole and decided to just lurk for a while!
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I love the way you have carefully orchestrated yourself to be the self-proclaimed Queen of The Unwarranted Victimisation from the evil tralalalalallop Tracey. Let’s take this interaction between you and me as an example. You involved yourself in a conversation between Uncle Bernie and I, which he had clearly answered, and yet instead of just moving on, you take the opportunity to call me nasty names continue your drama and stoke your forum fire.

You are a perfect example of a classic forum victim. You take a conversation (which coincidently was fucking months ago) which made you feel uncomfortable, but rather than reflect on it and take some constructive criticism and learn and grow from it, you hang on to it, silently lurking with rage, like a rabid one eyed piranha with no teeth, just waiting for an opportunity to continue this ridiculous habit you have created of ineffectively nipping at my heels.

I actually went back to take a look at our interaction all those months ago for personal perspective, go have a look, it is Page 13 of the Jimmy Savile Thread, and even after re reading it now, I still stand behind everything I said. You took an alleged crime against children by Rolf Harris and made it all about your disappointment because you grew up “admiring him”. You made no mention of his victims, no mention of the horror of child abuse you just made it about you and your broken Rolf Harris dreams. You then took it upon yourself to tell me to “fuck off” and call me a “dickhead”, which I have no problem with, but somehow in your victimised brain you think I am the attacker.

You are the one who continues these dramatics at every opportunity, you are the one who just yesterday called me a trollop and a fucking mole, and yet somehow twisted into your victimised mentality, I am the attacker.

Moonbeam, I suggest you put your Rolf Harris rage in a bubble, blow it away and move on because sensible debate is obviously not your strong suit.
 
Mud Cake said:
Corrupt country I'd be surprised if more then half the buildings there are safe
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Bangladesh is a developing country which is a polite way of saying they are dirt poor. It is not yet at a point like Australia where the government has enforced legislation, policy and procedure to protect its people. There is no doubt through this textile boom the living standards and opportunities for the average Bangladeshi has improved, but it is in no way ideal.

I think the bigger question you need to reflect on is why we the Western World continue to exploit the people of this country by abusing their lack of protection from their government and set up these sweat shops to support our fickle fashion needs.

Developed countries know the Bangladeshi people are not being protected by its government through appropriate legislation, policies and procedures and yet the big companies knowingly abuse the vulnerable in Bangladesh by contracting them to make us our expensive clothing while taking advantage of their cheap labour and unsafe work places.

Before you start making accusations of corruption maybe you need to take a look at the tag on the back of your carefully made shirt, just to ensure you yourself aren't part of the problem.
 
TraLa said:
Bangladesh is a developing country which is a polite way of saying they are dirt poor. It is not yet at a point like Australia where the government has enforced legislation, policy and procedure to protect its people. There is no doubt through this textile boom the living standards and opportunities for the average Bangladeshi has improved, but it is in no way ideal.

I think the bigger question you need to reflect on is why we the Western World continue to exploit the people of this country by abusing their lack of protection from their government and set up these sweat shops to support our fickle fashion needs.

Developed countries know the Bangladeshi people are not being protected by its government through appropriate legislation, policies and procedures and yet the big companies knowingly abuse the vulnerable in Bangladesh by contracting them to make us our expensive clothing while taking advantage of their cheap labour and unsafe work places.

Before you start making accusations of corruption maybe you need to take a look at the tag on the back of your carefully made shirt, just to ensure you yourself aren't part of the problem.
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Excellent post, 4 Corners the other night was about the conditions and the fires in the factories. They went into the hospitals and interviewed the survivors of the recent fire, lots of missing limbs and scaring. I have been guilty in the past of buying the cheap clothes from Kmart etc but I now make and effort to check those labels.

4 Corners - Fashion Victims

Oxfam has a campaign
 
eliza said:
I have been guilty in the past of buying the cheap clothes from Kmart etc but I now make and effort to check those labels.
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I am not sure if boycotting Bangladeshi products is the answer. I think ultimately that will have a detrimental effect on the people who rely on the sub standard wages just to live.

I am not by any means an expert on the topic, and this is probably an oversimplification, but I think it would better serve the people of Bangladesh to have the companies who gain the extraordinary profits from exploiting the poor to help build the factories to Western safety standards, so at least the work place is safe. In the process of building, they could still exploit cheap Bangladeshi labour and building materials so it is still done on the cheap, but at the same time they get to oversee it is built to code. This process would also help educate the Bangladeshi Building Industry to appropriate building codes, techniques, advances and safety measures to ensure future buildings have a safer design.

I remember a colleague sharing a story about a small textile factory in India. A Swedish group had become passionate about closing this particular factory down as it exploited the workers (children included) with sub standard wages and excessive working hours. Apparently the factory was located near a particularly poor area, and the group really felt they were helping to "free" the people from the evils of exploitation. The freedom fighters won, and the factory was closed. A year passed and one of the Swedish group went back to see how the village was doing now they were free of capitalist exploitation and oppression of an unfit work place, and she was horrified to discover it was worse, the child workers were now involved with petty crime and prostitution for money and food and people were now without income and in squallor.

The knee jerk reaction is to boycott products, because from where we sit, that level of exploitation and poverty is incomprehensible. Personally I think it is far better for us to buy that cheap KMart shirt and donate the $8 we saved to help support and educate the Bangladeshi people or even better, sponsor a Bangladeshi child and be proactive in supporting positive change for their future.

http://bangladesh.wvasiapacific.org/
 
TraLa said:
I am not sure if boycotting Bangladeshi products is the answer. I think ultimately that will have a detrimental effect on the people who rely on the sub standard wages just to live.

http://bangladesh.wvasiapacific.org/
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I get what you are saying, it's a real dilemma, don't buy the clothes and the people lose what little income they have. I don't know enough about world economics etc to really even start to figure out the solution. Back in the day, when kids in The Valley's of Wales were down mines earning tuppence a week people probably thought nothing would ever change but it did. Bangladesh are way behind the eight ball but I think after the most recent fire changes are happening a bit quicker.

I just did a bit of googling and discovered that there is a Global Union fighting for their cause.The IndustriALL Global Union has developed The Accord on Factory and Building Safety in Bangladesh

The Accord on Factory and Building Safety in Bangladesh is a five-year legally binding agreement between international labor organizations, non-governmental organizations, and retailers engaged in the textile industry to maintain minimum safety standards in the Bangladesh textile industry:

The undersigned parties are committed to the goal of a safe and sustainable Bangladeshi Ready-Made Garment ("RMG") industry in which no worker needs to fear fires, building collapses, or other accidents that could be prevented with reasonable health and safety measures.
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Some pretty big names have signed.

Another interesting read about it HERE

I need to read more, I had no idea any of this was happening.
 
This shows just who has signed it (globally) as of June 2013

http://www.just-style.com/analysis/who-has-signed-the-bangladesh-safety-accord-update_id117856.aspx

Big W (although not Woolworths it seems) has said,
BIG W wrote to the global union organisation IndustriALL to signal our support for the Accord’s aims and express our intention to become a signatory once the Accord working group, which includes retailers from around the globe, reports on how the agreement should be implemented.
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source: http://www.woolworthslimited.com.au..._News/BIG_W_to_sign_Bangladesh_Safety_Accord/
 
Topaz said:
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Woolworths charges $65 for more than an hour of parking

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-o...ng/story-fnagkbpv-1226673853022#ixzz2Y1pN5100
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Mud Cake said:
http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-o...ng/story-fnagkbpv-1226673853022#ixzz2Y1pN5100

Good business sense or not?

I kind of think after a 2nd reading that it's a neat way to discourage people from using the carpark as their personal garage.
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Get with the program lol :)

Speaking of expensive carparks, the other day I parked in the Adelaide CBD in a multi storey carpark I'd never parked in before. 3 hours cost $24 I was :mad:. lesson learnt, read the rates. My local Woolies gives 2 hours free downstairs and 3 hours free upstairs. However they are in a major tourist area and across the road from the tram stop, so commuters like to park there and catch the tram to the city.
 
eliza said:
Get with the program lol :)

Speaking of expensive carparks, the other day I parked in the Adelaide CBD in a multi storey carpark I'd never parked in before. 3 hours cost $24 I was :mad:. lesson learnt, read the rates. My local Woolies gives 2 hours free downstairs and 3 hours free upstairs. However they are in a major tourist area and across the road from the tram stop, so commuters like to park there and catch the tram to the city.
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Speaking of reading the signs.....
I've parked at our local Westfield Shopping Centre and copped a parking fine for overstaying my welcome.... :rolleyes:
By the time you drive around looking for a car park who thinks about, how long can I stay?, it's just a relief to find a park!!!
It makes for a very expensive shopping day, especially if you bump into someone you know and stop for a coffee and a chat.
Once bitten twice shy!
 
Topaz said:
Speaking of reading the signs.....
I've parked at our local Westfield Shopping Centre and copped a parking fine for overstaying my welcome.... :rolleyes:
By the time you drive around looking for a car park who thinks about, how long can I stay?, it's just a relief to find a park!!!
It makes for a very expensive shopping day, especially if you bump into someone you know and stop for a coffee and a chat.
Once bitten twice shy!
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I don't like Westfield. As landlords they're pretty scummy
 
no choice; born that way !

... and if you believe that, have I got a bridge to sell ya ! :D

From here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ries-bridge-France--gets-mayors-blessing.html

Rock-solid love: Australian woman marries a bridge in France - and even gets the mayor's blessing

Australian artist Jodi Rose has married Le Pont du Diable Bridge
Swore her undying love for 14th-century stone structure in south France

An Australian woman has taken her desire for the ‘strong and silent’-type to a new extreme when she married a bridge.

Jodi Rose married Le Pont du Diable Bridge in Céret, southern France after falling head over heels for the ‘sensual’ 14th century stone structure.

Ms Rose, or Mrs Le Pont du Diable, has spent the past decade travelling the world recording the vibrations in bridge cables with contact microphones and using them to create experimental music

After visiting dozens of bridges all over the world for her Singing Bridges musical project, she decided this was 'The One'.

Although her new husband may struggle to express his feelings, newlywed Jodi said ‘his being is very present, and I feel at peace in his strong embrace.’

‘He makes me feel connected to the earth and draws me to rest from my endless nomadic wanderings. He is fixed, stable, rooted to the ground, while I am nomadic, transient, ever on the road.

‘He gives me a safe haven, brings me back to ground myself, and then lets me go again to follow my own path, without trying to keep me tied down or in thrall to his needs or desires. I am devoted to him.’

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‘The Devil’s Bridge is everything I could desire in a husband – sturdy, trustworthy, sensual, kind and handsome,’ she added.

Their union is not legally recognised in France, but Rose claims their marriage is as strong as any other.

‘This is not a decision I undertake lightly, just as our curves complement, we truly bring joy to each other, and the strength of his pylons will always carry me home.’

Ms Rose, who says she is completely devoted to her new husband, have yet to explain how she determined the sex of the bridge.
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regarDS
 
The last bit made me laugh.

‘This is not a decision I undertake lightly, just as our curves complement, we truly bring joy to each other, and the strength of his pylons will always carry me home.’

Ms Rose, who says she is completely devoted to her new husband, have yet to explain how she determined the sex of the bridge.
 
shaydee said:
The last bit made me laugh.

‘This is not a decision I undertake lightly, just as our curves complement, we truly bring joy to each other, and the strength of his pylons will always carry me home.’

Ms Rose, who says she is completely devoted to her new husband, have yet to explain how she determined the sex of the bridge.
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Oh dear
 
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