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The Adani coal mine now seems to be full steam ahead with plenty of QLD & federal government backing and approval
- Direct (real) job estimations around 1,500 net + 1000 indirect + flow on economic benefit / 10,000 jobs touted
- Government royalties - last figure I saw suggested $22b (no doubt a well inflated figure)
- federal government likely to invest $1b (half of the $2.2b cost) to build a railway line from the mine to Abbot Point port (on the edge of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park)
Way to go Australia...investing in innovation and smart technology! I love it!
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"Townsville will be the regional headquarters of Adani's $22-billion Carmichael coal mine in Queensland's Galilee Basin.
Adani has previously said the project was expected to create 10,000 direct and indirect jobs in total, including more than 500 positions in areas such as engineering and planning during the pre-construction phase. Predicted to be Australia's largest coal mine, it would employ between 1,500 and 3,000 people once fully operational.
The ABC understands smaller towns will be deemed 'first choice' suppliers for transport, fuel and workers. The Abbot Point bulk coal facility near Bowen will also be expanded. The project still needs a water licence approved and hopes to secure a Federal Government loan.
The mine will consist of six open-cut pits and up to five underground mines, and will supply Indian power plants with enough coal to generate electricity for up to 100 million people. The controversial project involves dredging 1.1 million cubic metres of spoil near the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park, which will then be disposed of on land.
Queensland Government defends environmental credentials
PHOTO: A map showing the Adani Group's Carmichael Coal Mine and Rail Project. (Sourced: adanimining.com)
News of the mine's approval sparked protests on Monday, with more than 250 people rallying against the project in Melbourne. But Queensland's Minister for Natural Resources and Mines Anthony Lynham denied the giant coal project would destroy the Palaszczuk Government's green credentials."There are 200 stringent conditions placed on this project through its court processes. We can have jobs and economic prosperity for the north as well as protecting the Great Barrier Reef," he said.
"Our commitment to the reef is strong: $100 million to the reef, no dumping of capital dredge spoil to the reef [and] higher water quality targets. "And this coal from central Queensland will assist India in meeting its climate change (commitments)."
Dr Lynham welcomed the prospect of a billion-dollar loan to Adani from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Fund for a rail line, despite refusing to invest any state taxpayers' money in the project. "We have been firm with our commitment — there'll be no public funding of this project from Queensland Government resources," he said. "[But] the Federal Government's relationship with Adani is the Federal Government's relationship, and we support that because we want this project to go ahead."
Dr Lynham said the Premier would heavily lobby Adani to employ local workers, although there was no contractual obligation.
Adani hopes to start construction in September next year
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-...mine-to-be-headquartered-in-townsville/809289
- Direct (real) job estimations around 1,500 net + 1000 indirect + flow on economic benefit / 10,000 jobs touted
- Government royalties - last figure I saw suggested $22b (no doubt a well inflated figure)
- federal government likely to invest $1b (half of the $2.2b cost) to build a railway line from the mine to Abbot Point port (on the edge of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park)
Way to go Australia...investing in innovation and smart technology! I love it!
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"Townsville will be the regional headquarters of Adani's $22-billion Carmichael coal mine in Queensland's Galilee Basin.
- Queensland's coordinator-general approves 31.5km of rail line to Abbot Point and 300-bed camp
- Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility considering $1 billion loan to Adani for rail line
- Smaller towns to be deemed 'first choice' suppliers for transport, fuel and workers
Adani has previously said the project was expected to create 10,000 direct and indirect jobs in total, including more than 500 positions in areas such as engineering and planning during the pre-construction phase. Predicted to be Australia's largest coal mine, it would employ between 1,500 and 3,000 people once fully operational.
The ABC understands smaller towns will be deemed 'first choice' suppliers for transport, fuel and workers. The Abbot Point bulk coal facility near Bowen will also be expanded. The project still needs a water licence approved and hopes to secure a Federal Government loan.
The mine will consist of six open-cut pits and up to five underground mines, and will supply Indian power plants with enough coal to generate electricity for up to 100 million people. The controversial project involves dredging 1.1 million cubic metres of spoil near the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park, which will then be disposed of on land.
Queensland Government defends environmental credentials
PHOTO: A map showing the Adani Group's Carmichael Coal Mine and Rail Project. (Sourced: adanimining.com)
News of the mine's approval sparked protests on Monday, with more than 250 people rallying against the project in Melbourne. But Queensland's Minister for Natural Resources and Mines Anthony Lynham denied the giant coal project would destroy the Palaszczuk Government's green credentials."There are 200 stringent conditions placed on this project through its court processes. We can have jobs and economic prosperity for the north as well as protecting the Great Barrier Reef," he said.
"Our commitment to the reef is strong: $100 million to the reef, no dumping of capital dredge spoil to the reef [and] higher water quality targets. "And this coal from central Queensland will assist India in meeting its climate change (commitments)."
Dr Lynham welcomed the prospect of a billion-dollar loan to Adani from the Northern Australia Infrastructure Fund for a rail line, despite refusing to invest any state taxpayers' money in the project. "We have been firm with our commitment — there'll be no public funding of this project from Queensland Government resources," he said. "[But] the Federal Government's relationship with Adani is the Federal Government's relationship, and we support that because we want this project to go ahead."
Dr Lynham said the Premier would heavily lobby Adani to employ local workers, although there was no contractual obligation.
Adani hopes to start construction in September next year
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-...mine-to-be-headquartered-in-townsville/809289
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I saw these a little while ago... could have posted in the 'funnies' thread. Christopher Pyne in particular at 1:15 and 2:37...
Earlier that day (well not THAT day) .... Christopher Pyne told by Bronwyn Bishop to "refer to people by their first names" lol...
It's ridiculous... they're getting paid for this!
C***s! Ooops.
Earlier that day (well not THAT day) .... Christopher Pyne told by Bronwyn Bishop to "refer to people by their first names" lol...
It's ridiculous... they're getting paid for this!
C***s! Ooops.
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Columbo
Never again
http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...cal-divide-globalisation-20170209-gu9rio.html
Interesting article, I do wonder if we will see a rise of a Trump like figure in either the Liberal or Labor party. I personally think not. It is too much of a club for that to ever happen.
Interesting article, I do wonder if we will see a rise of a Trump like figure in either the Liberal or Labor party. I personally think not. It is too much of a club for that to ever happen.
kxk
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PLEASE SIGN - PETITION TO NAME EXTREME STORMS AFTER CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS
IMAGINE - yelling fuck off ANDREW BOLT, when you are flooded, would help ease the pain
PETITION
Petition to the WMO to name extreme storms after climate change deniers.
Since 1954, the World Meteorological Organization has been naming extreme storms after people. As scientific evidence shows that climate change is creating increasingly frequent and devastating storms, and with climate scientists declaring these extreme weather events as the new normal, we propose a new naming system. A system that names extreme storms caused by climate change, after the policy makers who deny climate change and obstruct climate policy.
http://climatenamechange.org/#/petition
IMAGINE - yelling fuck off ANDREW BOLT, when you are flooded, would help ease the pain
PETITION
Petition to the WMO to name extreme storms after climate change deniers.
Since 1954, the World Meteorological Organization has been naming extreme storms after people. As scientific evidence shows that climate change is creating increasingly frequent and devastating storms, and with climate scientists declaring these extreme weather events as the new normal, we propose a new naming system. A system that names extreme storms caused by climate change, after the policy makers who deny climate change and obstruct climate policy.
http://climatenamechange.org/#/petition
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
A good time to start a political party - most western countries.
Just claim YOU are not a politician and people believe anything, any crap that you spit out v they believe nothing pollies say
So perfect time for starting new parties based on not much - I like the idea of a women & minorties group, the future is female, males have fucked up everything
Just claim YOU are not a politician and people believe anything, any crap that you spit out v they believe nothing pollies say
So perfect time for starting new parties based on not much - I like the idea of a women & minorties group, the future is female, males have fucked up everything
kxk
SAPIOSEXUAL
French politics, very interesting candidates...
Macron
With Mrs Macron, who is about 25 years his senior, moderate, centrast
Or
Le Pen....who is an admirer of Russian President Vladimir Putin
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4452906/Macron-camp-bars-Russian-news-outlets-angers-Moscow.html#ixzz4fndr8tZe
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Macron
With Mrs Macron, who is about 25 years his senior, moderate, centrast
Or
Le Pen....who is an admirer of Russian President Vladimir Putin
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4452906/Macron-camp-bars-Russian-news-outlets-angers-Moscow.html#ixzz4fndr8tZe
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
oddjob
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The main trouble for any Trump wannabes in Australia is compulsory voting. You can't win with just a well motivated base, you have to win over the politically non committed as well.
Columbo
Never again
Oh yeah. Pity. I could have been a great political leader.
kxk
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Dozens detained as Russian protesters say 'sick of Putin'
Police detained more than 100 activists in Saint Petersburg on Saturday as hundreds of Russian opposition supporters turned out to protest against President Vladimir Putin's expected candidacy in elections next year.
Protests in several cities were called by the Open Russia movement founded by arch-Putin foe and former oil magnate Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
They were held under the slogan "We're sick of him" - a reference to Putin.
About 200 people gathered in central Saint Petersburg for an unauthorised demonstration, an AFP journalist witnessed, and OVD-Info, which monitors detentions of political activists, said more than 110 protesters were hauled away by riot police.
"Police officers ended the actions... of 100 people who continued to trouble the public order," the Saint Petersburg police said, without confirming if they had been arrested.
"Putin is an usurper. He has to finally go. We're sick of him," said one of the protesters, 35-year-old Anton Danilov.
"Everything is bad. Education, health - everything has been destroyed. I want changes," said Galina Abramova, 57.
A similarly sized protest in Moscow remained peaceful as activists gathered at the offices of Putin's administration and handed in petitions against his expected candidacy in 2018.
"I don't want Putin to stand in the next elections," said Anna Bazarova, a 16-year-old student queuing up to hand in her petition.
"Our main problem is that we can't change those in power," she said.
She added that many of her friends had opted not to attend, fearing detention by the police.
Riot police stood guard as officers used loudspeakers to warn protesters: "Citizens, your action has not been agreed by the authorities".
One of the organisers, Yakov Yermakov, handed out forms for people to fill out with complaints to Putin.
"Our president has already been in power 17 years. We think that's too long. Our country isn't developing," he said.
Will Putin run?
Putin has not tipped his hand on whether he will seek a fourth term as president in the election scheduled for March 2018.
The protests came after opposition leader Alexei Navalny organised the largest unauthorised rally of recent years in Moscow on March 26. Police detained around 1000 people, including Navalny.
Navalny has announced his plan to stand for president in 2018 and has galvanised the splintered opposition movement with a powerful online campaign including videos exposing corrupt officials. He has called for another protest on June 12.
On Thursday, Navalny was briefly hospitalised after an assailant threw green dye in his eye, causing a chemical burn which he said had damaged his cornea.
He had already been hit with green dye in a similar attack last month.
Khodorkovsky, the main figurehead of Saturday's protests, remains a controversial figure in Russia. The former oligarch and founder of the Yukos oil company spent a decade in prison and now lives in Britain.
His Open Russia movement has been targeted by the authorities recently with police raiding its Moscow offices this week, with the organisation saying the officers seized equipment and about 100,000 flyers for Saturday's protests.
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Police detained more than 100 activists in Saint Petersburg on Saturday as hundreds of Russian opposition supporters turned out to protest against President Vladimir Putin's expected candidacy in elections next year.
Protests in several cities were called by the Open Russia movement founded by arch-Putin foe and former oil magnate Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
They were held under the slogan "We're sick of him" - a reference to Putin.
About 200 people gathered in central Saint Petersburg for an unauthorised demonstration, an AFP journalist witnessed, and OVD-Info, which monitors detentions of political activists, said more than 110 protesters were hauled away by riot police.
"Police officers ended the actions... of 100 people who continued to trouble the public order," the Saint Petersburg police said, without confirming if they had been arrested.
"Putin is an usurper. He has to finally go. We're sick of him," said one of the protesters, 35-year-old Anton Danilov.
"Everything is bad. Education, health - everything has been destroyed. I want changes," said Galina Abramova, 57.
A similarly sized protest in Moscow remained peaceful as activists gathered at the offices of Putin's administration and handed in petitions against his expected candidacy in 2018.
"I don't want Putin to stand in the next elections," said Anna Bazarova, a 16-year-old student queuing up to hand in her petition.
"Our main problem is that we can't change those in power," she said.
She added that many of her friends had opted not to attend, fearing detention by the police.
Riot police stood guard as officers used loudspeakers to warn protesters: "Citizens, your action has not been agreed by the authorities".
One of the organisers, Yakov Yermakov, handed out forms for people to fill out with complaints to Putin.
"Our president has already been in power 17 years. We think that's too long. Our country isn't developing," he said.
Will Putin run?
Putin has not tipped his hand on whether he will seek a fourth term as president in the election scheduled for March 2018.
The protests came after opposition leader Alexei Navalny organised the largest unauthorised rally of recent years in Moscow on March 26. Police detained around 1000 people, including Navalny.
Navalny has announced his plan to stand for president in 2018 and has galvanised the splintered opposition movement with a powerful online campaign including videos exposing corrupt officials. He has called for another protest on June 12.
On Thursday, Navalny was briefly hospitalised after an assailant threw green dye in his eye, causing a chemical burn which he said had damaged his cornea.
He had already been hit with green dye in a similar attack last month.
Khodorkovsky, the main figurehead of Saturday's protests, remains a controversial figure in Russia. The former oligarch and founder of the Yukos oil company spent a decade in prison and now lives in Britain.
His Open Russia movement has been targeted by the authorities recently with police raiding its Moscow offices this week, with the organisation saying the officers seized equipment and about 100,000 flyers for Saturday's protests.
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kxk
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One of Australia's newest refugee groups has opened their hearts - and wallets - in a show of gratitude
Fashion designer Abdul Rahman Sazzoh didn't want to leave his homeland of Sierra Leone, but says he was forced to by violence.
"I fled for my life," he said.
"I was tied up, they looted my school."
He also witnessed the death of a good friend, and lived for years in a refugee camp before coming to Australia under the humanitarian program.
"Thanks me to the almighty God, I am here," he said.
About two million people were displaced from their homes during Sierra Leone's 11 year civil war, which ended in 2001.
About 3000 have since resettled in Australia under the humanitarian program.
This week the Sierra Leone community of South Australia joined together to hold thanksgiving services to show their gratitude to Australia and to raise money for the Fred Hollows Foundation.
Newly-elected chairperson of the Sierra Leone community of South Australia, Constance Jones, said she hoped all of Australia would hear their message.
"We want them to recognise that we're here to help, and support, also. Not only to take," she said
Fashion designer Abdul Rahman Sazzoh didn't want to leave his homeland of Sierra Leone, but says he was forced to by violence.
"I fled for my life," he said.
"I was tied up, they looted my school."
He also witnessed the death of a good friend, and lived for years in a refugee camp before coming to Australia under the humanitarian program.
"Thanks me to the almighty God, I am here," he said.
About two million people were displaced from their homes during Sierra Leone's 11 year civil war, which ended in 2001.
About 3000 have since resettled in Australia under the humanitarian program.
This week the Sierra Leone community of South Australia joined together to hold thanksgiving services to show their gratitude to Australia and to raise money for the Fred Hollows Foundation.
Newly-elected chairperson of the Sierra Leone community of South Australia, Constance Jones, said she hoped all of Australia would hear their message.
"We want them to recognise that we're here to help, and support, also. Not only to take," she said
