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BBUK 2016 - Series discussion

Dystopia said:
I don't like to disagree with you Sticky because I find that most of the time we read it all pretty much the same way.

In this case however I must protest. Laura might be a game player but isn't that what it's all about? And if she was able to cover up her tactics to a great extend when compared to Jackson or pretty much everybody else, the better for her. It shows that her grey cells are still intact.

To sum this up, game playing or not, Laura and Andy (again) are for me the most sincere people in the house. Evelyin often comes a close third when she doesn't stumble.
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...haha!... I don't mind you disagreeing with me at all Dystopia lol!... in fact... I encourage it because I am by no means correct all of the time lol!...the thing that gives me the irrits about Laura is that I didn't give a flying fig about her dalliance with Marco... that was her business but ever since that time with him (because she mistakenly thought that he would be in it until the end as did a lot of people)... she hooked up with him to go along for the ride... but again... that's fine with me... I still liked her at that point regardless...

...when Marco was the first one out (thank god) she was devastated... the coat tails that she was going to ride on went out the door with Marco... knowing this she then latched onto Evelyn... (the prettiest girl in the house to everybody within in house) to ride on her coat tails... she then has chosen to slowly snipe away in the background via gossip and the Diary Room at people like Jason and Andy... two of the greater 'game players' within the house while protesting that she herself was not 'playing the game'... she's been 'playing the game' from day one!... but she refuses to admit that she is... even though it is so blatantly obvious that she is... the boos from the crowd makes this so blatantly obvious that they are onto her gameplay yet she still proclaims her innocence!...

...contrary to what she thinks... THE PUBLIC are not stupid... those boos were their message to her that they are onto her and she has come to realise that... hence her outburst in the Diary Room with saying to THE PUBLIC "you are so mean!... so mean!... SO FUCK YOU!".... another thing...THE PUBLIC also know that she really believes that she is condemning them because she hitched up with Marco in the first place and that she was crucified for starting that 'romance' in the first place... why do you think that she instantly latched onto Evelyn so quickly when Marco left?... it was because she saw a chance to crucify her too to throw her under a bus... she figured that if she forced Evelyn and Alex into a 'romance' that they would be sacrificed too... to kill 2 main rivals with one foul swoop... but that didn't work no matter how hard she tried... THE PUBLIC (as did I) saw straight through that and have called her out on it lol!...

...she would not hesitate to kill Evelyn and Alex in order to remain in the house... no hesitation at all!...phase 2 of her strategy was to put the nail in Jason's coffin after he took that £20,000... she knew that the housemates and some people on the outside of the house would be baying for his blood for being so smart to do what he did so she pounced on that fact to to try and get rid of him in the aftermath of it... her plea in the Diary Room for them to vote Jason out was so pathetic... hence the reason that Jason was saved and she was on the podium to vote out... she died a thousand deaths on that podium... her ego was shattered... her gameplan was in total shreds and her 'playing the game' was fully exposed to not only us... THE PUBLIC but also to the housemates that are intelligent enough to understand what is going on with her (Jason/Andy and Jayne at least lol!)... then during that desperate plea she has the hide to call Jason 'sly'!... well that was the icing on the cake for me and probably most of THE PUBLIC too... hence her punishment...

...she is in 'panic mode' now because she knows that THE PUBLIC have it in for her now no matter what she says or does from here onwards... they are baying for her blood and she doesn't really understand as to why which is more tragic for her in my opinion anyway... even during Ryan's eviction just after he walked out the door she analysing what had gone wrong for her... she was asking the other housemates what she has done wrong even while Ryan was still walking down the steps towards Emma lol!... she was devastated... and so she should be!... the silly girl... what?... did she forget that the cameras pick up EVERYTHING that she says and does?... and saying "you're so mean!... so mean!... SO FUCK YOU!" to THE PUBLIC is just committing public suicide to me... and you know what?... I don't really care either... she will probably be the next one out of the house so no great loss to me at least...

...but having said all of that... she is very intelligent but quite stupid in thinking that she is smarter than the viewing public... she should have known better really... at the beginning of this series I quite liked her... even during that Marco dalliance but I saw the other side of her more or less straight after that and didn't like what I was seeing... especially the sinister setting up of the Evelyn and Alex romance in order to see them both fall... or so she thought... that was just plain nasty to me... lets be honest here... being a 'gameplayer is what Big Brother is all about... it has to be!... anyone that says that they are not are just kidding themselves and are just lying to us.... so we all have to just take that with a grain of salt don't we?... but to protest your innocence as Laura continues to do even though she has been exposed to doing it is just insulting our intelligence... that is what I don't like... anyhow... enough of my babblings about Laura lol!... :)... cheers.
 
...NOW!... the reason that I didn't like Ryan:... at first I didn't mind him either... because he was an openly gay man that just enjoyed having fun and dalliances with flirting with the other gay guys in the house... so far all is good... then he noticed that people like Marco and Hughie and Jayne were getting lots of airtime with their antics... he didn't like this... he was becoming a bland little wallflower hovering in the background... he decided to do something about it...

...he started being a bit 'camper'... he decided to be a bit more 'flambouyant'... he decided to be a bit more 'louder'... he decided to be a bit more 'gayer'... when he realised that by doing this that he was being seen as a funny housemate because of this he thought that he was onto a winning formula and when Marco went out of the house he realised that this was an opening for him to steal the lime light...

...he then became overly 'camper/flambouyant/louder and gayer' to a point where his act became ridiculously boring... he thought that he was hilarious and the funniest person in the house with his outrageous rants and 'showmanship'... he went the extreme ''overkill' path as far as I'm concerned...

...I have several gay friends and one in particular is a 'normal' gay during the day when we were at work and was just quite funny with comments and talks in general but when we would all go out for drinks or whatever after work and he got drunk he used to become so 'gayer and camper' that he overplayed the 'gayness and campness' to the point that he was unbearable with it... he was like a parody of the gayest possible man in a comedy sitcom with it... he even planted a full-on tongue kiss on me once while drunk when he grabbed my face and planted it on me while I was sitting down... we had a fallout for a few days because of it until he apologised to me for it... he got into fights with other guys in the pubs at times with his extreme behaviour and we had to bail him out at times too...

...that is how I saw Ryan... he played the 'over gay and over camp' version of himself because he thought that everyone around him including THE PUBLIC thought that he was being hilarious... he wasn't... he was being a complete idiot just to keep himself in the lime light... he could've gone such a long way if he just stayed as himself... wearing that plastic garbage bag during his eviction is a prime example of him being so over the top with it in my opinion... it's a pity... as I said... I liked him at first... and yes... I do like gay people... some are good friends of mine so please don't think that I'm saying this because of any other reasons... :)... thankyou!... cheers.
 
Jason needs to pull himself together. What a sook he is. He is definitely a more complex person than he has shown.

Andy do us all a favour and keep that Tshirt on when you are in the diary room.

Laura - you will be right, but you were hideous with Marco. Crowd loves to boo, the more ammunition you give them they will nail you when you get out. Stop complaining

On another note I read online Marco continues his crazy behaviour outside the house. The kid needs serious help.
 
Dystopia said:
Now to the episode in the DR. I actually believed [Laura]. I think she might have been a bit inebriated
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She must have been. Surely that is BB suicide, right there.

I've noticed a lot of cut aways to the DR button and door, the "stock shots" (complete with jizz stain on the wall) while HMs are talking in there.

The reason they insert those shots of the DR button and door is to hide the cuts/edits to the video. So what you are hearing sounds like a few sentences in a row of continuous speech, but really they are sentences edited and cut together, possibly even in a different order. If they didn't cut away to the button/door shot you would see the edits clearly in the video. So the more times you see the DR button during a DR scene, the more edits there have been made. They use this technique a lot in panel shows, for example, where they have to do a retake because someone fluffed a line, by inserting a shot of the audience etc.

Editing 101 brought to you by timmy, apologies if this comes across as puppetsplaining.
 
...today's episode... bwahahahahaha!... Andy tells the other housemates that to inspire himself to get out of bed he thought of Margaret Thatcher naked and it made one part of him wake up and get out of bed and another part of him to go to sleep!... hahahahahaha!... classic!... Hughie is already in the Diary Room and talking about Jason's treachery... oh for God's sake!... it wasn't ONLY Jason that voted for Ryan... others did too!... anyway... I don't know why Hughie is so worried about Ryan... when he was asked if he's going to 'put a ring on Hughie's finger' when he gets out on BOTS last night he said a very confirmed 'no!'... so there you go!...

...Hughie doesn't like Jason but he will suck up to him if Jason gains immunity or any other type of power as he instantly did with Andy anyway!... Laura is still dissecting as to why she was booed so much... moving on... Andy and Jason's conversation was funny ... I like these two plus Jayne in the house and that's it now... I've gone off Hughie... he is so childlike in his ways it's now become irritating...

...Jason is now in the Diary Room questioning as to why he is so disliked by the housemates and THE PUBLIC alike lol!... he says that he genuinely doesn't understand as to why?... there you are... evidence that he is 'playing the game'... lol!... I just think now that he is having fun in the house now and is possibly 'taking the piss' with that statement... he's got his £20,000... he probably doesn't care whether he gets the rest if he goes next... I love it!... lol!...

...Jayne and Sam's conversation about Jason out in the garden was a great insight into what people think of him in the house from their point of view... very interesting indeed... Hughie is talking to Laura about 'being in love'... moving on... Jackson's haircut for extra airtime is so ridiculous... there is a task... yup!... **YAWN**... hilarious... **DOUBLE YAWN**... moving on... Jason has to do the lot plus put jellied eels down his shorts but none of the other housemates chuckled along with him except Andy and possibly Jayne by the looks of it... what a pathetic bunch!...

...Laura is talking to Evelyn about Alex... moving on... Andy in the Diary Room without his shirt on should be instant dismissal from the house!... lol!... he's talking about Jason and says that he basically needs to 'lighten up' for his own good... that's true... he should... Andy's impression of Jason's 'Brighton accent' was fucking hilarious!... lol!... the party begins...

...Jackson goes into the Diary Room during the party... I so detest this fake shit arsewipe!... his voice is fucking fingernails on a blackboard for me... he is such a festering tosspot!... shut up talking you dumbarse waste of sperm... why does he talk like a negro from the Bronx in the USA?... Jackson is such a festering fart of a... oh wait!... fast forward!... moving on... Laura says something in the Diary Room... moving on... everyone is partying on in the house and Jason is sitting on his own in the garden... now this is something that really shits me... if Jason sits on his own... saying nothing to anyone... not contributing to anything he is accused of being 'unsociable' but when Alex does it EVERY FUCKING DAMN DAY he is considered to be 'cool' and 'hot'... such double standards or what?...

...Hughie is in the Diary Room saying that he now 'loves Andy'... puhleeeeeze!... moving on... Jayne and Andy's talk with each other was great to listen to... Hughie deliberately rolls into the pool and everyone laughs... even Jason!... yes you heard it here first folks!... Jason actually laughed!... Laura definitely wins the 'wet T-Shirt' contest for sure... nice jugs Laura!... Hughie kisses Ryan's photo image not knowing that Ryan has dropped him like a hot potato in the 'love stakes'... the poor schmuck!... in the dairy Room with Evelyn... Laura says that Jason looked 'quite sick'... whether she means that he looks ill or sexy I couldn't fathom but Evelyn said 'you hornbag!"... lol!... it ends with Hughie out in the garden on his own... end of show... cheers.
 
adsyj said:
Jason needs to pull himself together. What a sook he is. He is definitely a more complex person than he has shown.

Andy do us all a favour and keep that Tshirt on when you are in the diary room.

Laura - you will be right, but you were hideous with Marco. Crowd loves to boo, the more ammunition you give them they will nail you when you get out. Stop complaining

On another note I read online Marco continues his crazy behaviour outside the house. The kid needs serious help.
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I don't know what it is with Jason. I still can't figure out why he didn't read Charlie her rights when it was appropriate.... could it have to do something with that still?

Hey.... give Andy a break, he wasn't a marine, he worked for the BBC :p

Laura is still the smartest in the house after Andy... say what you will.
 
timmydownawell said:
She must have been. Surely that is BB suicide, right there.

I've noticed a lot of cut aways to the DR button and door, the "stock shots" (complete with jizz stain on the wall) while HMs are talking in there.

The reason they insert those shots of the DR button and door is to hide the cuts/edits to the video. So what you are hearing sounds like a few sentences in a row of continuous speech, but really they are sentences edited and cut together, possibly even in a different order. If they didn't cut away to the button/door shot you would see the edits clearly in the video. So the more times you see the DR button during a DR scene, the more edits there have been made. They use this technique a lot in panel shows, for example, where they have to do a retake because someone fluffed a line, by inserting a shot of the audience etc.

Editing 101 brought to you by timmy, apologies if this comes across as puppetsplaining.
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That's all news to me, goes to show what a sheltered, cultivated life I have been living. :woot:
DR Button, "stock shots" - jizz stains on the wall...?? I think I shall confine my TV selections to Midsomer Murders and Black Books in the future.

I feel violated and defiled after those revelations... I'd better go and have a bath!! :vulcan::woot:
 
Dystopia said:
That's all news to me, goes to show what a sheltered, cultivated life I have been living. :woot:
DR Button, "stock shots" - jizz stains on the wall...?? I think I shall confine my TV selections to Midsomer Murders and Black Books in the future.

I feel violated and defiled after those revelations... I'd better go and have a bath!! :vulcan::woot:
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...Black Books was such a brilliant show Dystopia... I loved it!... cheers.
 
Yes, that same old Hyena mentality coming through again - ostracize Jason the bastard!!! How much courage would it have taken of anyone to at least try and walk over to Jason and say, come on, join us... oh, yes, but there is no one with courage.

The weird thing is that Jason from the beginning was never my type.... different generations or values perhaps, but that doesn't mean that I have to hate him... or does it? Even until now the only fault I could see in him was the fact that he was pussy footing around that 'running-out-of-time-pretend-bimbo' Charlie.

As the great Kris Kristofferson so eloquently put it:


Some folks hate the Whites
Who hate the Blacks who hate the Klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand

'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me
 
I've taken the latest episode in a different perspective. I felt andy was satisfied and confident in his place in the house, that he just wanted to bond and have a good time. I'm so glad to see him have a good time too. I felt he was sick of hanging out with Jason when Jason was in that type of mood because he just wants to enjoy the little time he feels he may have. First it was trying to cheer Jason up, then try and get Jason to enjoy other things, then he was talking to Jackson (I wished they showed more of what they spoke of) about what they were going to miss in the house and how he thinks it's important to enjoy the little things where Jason is not. He then kind of mocked Jason in the DR- btw that accent was hilarious! I was dying! You can tell andy is getting bored more and more. How funny was it when he was doing that task. He seemed to love it. Anyways he seems sick of Jason in today's episode. He couldn't wait to dress up as one of the boys for the party. I kind of like the effect andy has on Jackson btw. Forgive me. But I really do like that friendship. And then andy danced. I loved seeing him like that. He deserves to have a fun time and I'm glad he feels comfortable enough around the other hm's not just Jason.
 
next episode, evicted hm's are making an appearance? And how on earth are they going to evict this amount of hm's by the end of the week? It feels so rushed.

Tbh I can't wait for cbb.
 
...holy crap!... I've just looked at how much I've written on this page today!... it looks like I have literal diarrhea!... lol!... cheers.
 
Sweetgeek said:
next episode, evicted hm's are making an appearance? And how on earth are they going to evict this amount of hm's by the end of the week? It feels so rushed.

Tbh I can't wait for cbb.
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...aw crap!... they're not are they?... at least one good thing about this series though... they haven't put in housemates of years gone by thank god... I so hate that!... so I guess that we should count our blessings eh?... lol!... cheers.
 
Mr Stickyfingers said:
...aw crap!... they're not are they?... at least one good thing about this series though... they haven't put in housemates of years gone by thank god... I so hate that!... so I guess that we should count our blessings eh?... lol!... cheers.
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I know, right!? What is the point of bringing in the evicted hm's, I mean really it's a week away before we see them again.

The bots shows they bring in old hm's, I haven't a clue who they are mind you, but I feel it's pointless regardless.
 
timmydownawell said:
She must have been. Surely that is BB suicide, right there.

I've noticed a lot of cut aways to the DR button and door, the "stock shots" (complete with jizz stain on the wall) while HMs are talking in there.

The reason they insert those shots of the DR button and door is to hide the cuts/edits to the video. So what you are hearing sounds like a few sentences in a row of continuous speech, but really they are sentences edited and cut together, possibly even in a different order. If they didn't cut away to the button/door shot you would see the edits clearly in the video. So the more times you see the DR button during a DR scene, the more edits there have been made. They use this technique a lot in panel shows, for example, where they have to do a retake because someone fluffed a line, by inserting a shot of the audience etc.

Editing 101 brought to you by timmy, apologies if this comes across as puppetsplaining.
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swear sometimes i end up seeing more of that diary room button than i do of the person inside the diary room, its ridiculous
 
Brekkie said:
They just get the housemates to read the dictionary out loud before they go in and then create their conversations in the edit suite.
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...hahaha!... bloody hilarious!... and you know what?... it could probably work too!... cheers.
 
Something had been bugging me the last few days about Ryan's eviction, and I've finally clicked what it was - at the end of the interview when Emma got up to head back outside, she didn't indicate to him that he could go see his friends and family. He was just left sitting there.

I guess his friends and family were a little too confident about his place in the house.
 
Rison said:
Something had been bugging me the last few days about Ryan's eviction, and I've finally clicked what it was - at the end of the interview when Emma got up to head back outside, she didn't indicate to him that he could go see his friends and family. He was just left sitting there.

I guess his friends and family were a little too confident about his place in the house.
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or they didnt invite family and friends because 9 people were up, thats like half their crowd capacity!
 
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