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Have to wonder if bringing a younger audience to the show from BB5 onwards with FNL is part of the reason complaints about Uncut really ramped up that year.
I think uncut complaints went up as channel ten kept pushing the limits/crossing the line with the show.

What started out as a place to air mature content from the housemates that was not suitable for the daily show (both nudity and stimulating conversations about the global political economy) turned into a softcore porn show (with the intent seemingly to lure teenage viewers into watching Big Brother).

This begs the question: By launching Friday Night Live and turning Uplate into a softcore porn show, both at around the same time, was Channel Ten simply trying to expand the Big Brother viewer cohort to kids and teens respectively?
 
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I think the problem was that was the perception, even if it wasn't the fact. Ten also played up to that perception too and took pride in the "too hot for TV" kind of angle when perhaps they should have just ignored the furore rather than milked it.

BB4 scaled back the nudity because the housemates did - was a little bit of masterbation and sex talk but the most powerful moment wasn't to do with sex at all but to do with a conviction for murder. More nudity in BB5 for sure but compared to BB3 it doesn't seem the focus it was and it's all more talk than action really. I do think as much as a problem that it was for them in BB5/6, it was as big a problem not having that outlet in BB7/8 too.

To be fair Seven pretty much got Uncut spot on this series - it had glimpses and a bit of sex talk but it was far from the focus, even if that's how they made it out to be in the build up.
 
Definitely think it was a mix of Gretel being over the show at that point and the show wanting to move in a different direction.

There doesn’t seem to be any bad blood and if she has tried to distance herself from the show it seems to be more that she doesn’t want to be forever known as the BB lady.
Absolutely - that's why in my memory I thought she had quit but I think it genuinely was an outcome both were happy with. I've been in that place myself when I was made redundant - technically not my choice but a choice I was happy to have made for me at the time.

I suspect though had producers turned around and said BB08 was likely to be the last series she might have been willing to stick it out another year, but it was obviously looked at as being the final throw of the dice with a change in host necessary to give any revamp a chance, which perhaps as a fan she somewhat understood too.

I will say she even post-Michael she is excellent in the BB6 finale - I generally have been skipping through the episodes I've downloaded fastforwarding through most of that but I found myself watching nearly the full 2 hours of that last night.
 
A hard episode for Gretel to keep on track would probably be that Golden Key Winner Special during BB2007. I remember the mileage the soundgrab of her talking to the stagehands taking too long between set pieces got on the BBBA Podcast episode of it. "Come on Golden Boy with that envelope! Quickquickquickquickquic...Thank-YOU!" LOL
I believe they got police checks/references on all 100 winners and kicked a lot out straight away who didn't pass those tests. Then they interviewed maybe 10-15 they liked the look of and chose the 5 who were most suitable to be housemates. Then they pretended that the 5 people they 'drew out' was at random when they were the only 5 who were ever going to be allowed into the house!
 
Yes, that was done so poorly considering the idea was that it was a housemate chosen at random, so even those that passed the checks still basically had to audition. Of course the BBUK equivalent ended up with a housemate who had auditioned previously getting in, but they somewhat struck gold not so much with the housemate but with the reaction to that housemate, unlike BBAU where Nick (IIRC) just kind of went in and then left without doing much in between.

They also fucked up the web audition idea a year later by making a big deal and then not putting in anyone who auditioned that way until 3-4 weeks later and then chucking them out a week or so later anyway.


One thing I have noticed about the "specials" is how padded they were and how much they'd fill for time. The BB4 recount eviction which was obviously coming anyhow (it was the Thursday night, they'd been told on Monday it would happen that week) saw them tell every single housemate individually in the diary room rather than just announce it to the house. Knowing who went I thought initially they might have been being rather clever by doing that in alphabetical order then I wondered if when Wesley went in he'd be told he had been evicted and leave via the DR - but no, they told him and still had him the same as the others (they'd be an eviction) instructed not to tell anyone even though everyone knew.

It also seems BB4 was the first series where they could see as well as hear Gretel but the problem was that they could work out whenever a twist was coming because Big Brother would turn the plasma on in advance. They always had Big Brother gather the housemates on the sofa in advance of Gretel crossing to the house rather than them just hearing Gretel too.
 
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Sorry - he wasn't told he'd be evicted, just they'd be an eviction that night - the same as they'd told the others.

Of course the big "secret" in 2004 was the $1m jackpot which they actually held off telling the HMs for half the series (nowadays I doubt they'd last a couple of weeks). I thought that was quite cleverly done in having a live comp to determine who found out first and then having a chain of people finding out (under the threat of nomination every week if they told the secret). It was far better executed than the twins a year later where having told us at the beginning of the show the house had already found out when through the charade of telling Heath about it in the diary room and then repeating that process in the lounge.
 
I believe they got police checks/references on all 100 winners and kicked a lot out straight away who didn't pass those tests. Then they interviewed maybe 10-15 they liked the look of and chose the 5 who were most suitable to be housemates. Then they pretended that the 5 people they 'drew out' was at random when they were the only 5 who were ever going to be allowed into the house!
Yeah it was even a thing in the episode iirc One of the audience contenders is asked by Gretel how she won her ticket and it goes along the lines of she says she won it 'on the radio' or something and Gretels like 'you certainly did not, you must have bought a STARBURST at some point' and after the ad break tries to clarify it further exactly how the competition was set up cause this lady must be mistaken LOL they go into that on the podcast too.
 
Not quite a rewatch and not checked other seasons but looking at the BB06 website just highlights how much content you used to get beyond the TV show. Even with the live series now a couple of posts a day on socials passes off as an online strategy.

 
Not quite a rewatch and not checked other seasons but looking at the BB06 website just highlights how much content you used to get beyond the TV show. Even with the live series now a couple of posts a day on socials passes off as an online strategy.

I do think that this is where the idea that modern audiences have short attention spans comes in to play. Viewers are more likely to engage with a short video clip or post on social media than they are a website full of content.
 
Maybe it's a generational thing but I find it much quicker to read things than watch things.
haha I'm so with you there. Especially tech troubleshoooting when a 10 minute youtube video shows you something you could have read in a paragraph. But they're monetised ofc. Drives me crazy.
 
Not quite a rewatch and not checked other seasons but looking at the BB06 website just highlights how much content you used to get beyond the TV show. Even with the live series now a couple of posts a day on socials passes off as an online strategy.


This AntiGretel thread is a real highlight of their forum! :)
 
I've not watched the Michael incident but she is so so much better by BBAU6 than she was in BB1/2 - well with the HMs she likes anyway.
 
season one and two: Gretel finding her feet.
season three and four and five: Peak Gretel.
season six and seven: Gretel it is time to go.
 
Maybe it's a generational thing but I find it much quicker to read things than watch things.
I mean back in the day reading fan sites, media articles, or the official website was all I could do to keep up with international BB so I get you. That said you don’t really get much of a sense of what people are really like until you actually see them in action.

Take the late Nikki Grahame for instance… I don’t think the hilariousness of her tantrums would have translated in to text. The WTFness and fascination with her came from watching the video clips of her epic meltdowns.

Another example is BB5’s fight night… I remember reading about it but didn’t understand the gravitude of it until I was able to watch it unfold for myself.
 
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