tedfthis
OLD Member, Gold Coast
Haha, they pensioned me off at 70.
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Haha, they pensioned me off at 70.
NRL massive over run artificially inflating the numbers.
Tuesday, 7th October 2014 - Live Eviction
Overnight viewers: 6777,000
Ranked in total people: 11
Demographics:
25-54 - #2
18-49 - #2
16-39 - #2
Track the results at: http://consuela.comze.com/ratings/
Overnight viewers: 6777,000
Ranked in total people: 11
Demographics:
25-54 - #2
18-49 - #2
16-39 - #2
Track the results at: http://consuela.comze.com/ratings/
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tedfthis
OLD Member, Gold Coast
Wow, 6.7Million, they have found their Mojo at last. Now they have their target audience, drunk rugby league followers
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Ready @tedfthis ? You spin these numbers to show how the series is an epic failure and shows how Nine are intentionally sabotaging the franchise....
Whilst I present my argument that being NUMBER ONE in its timeslot in all three important advertisers demographics is a fantastic result for Nine and even better, over all prime time it came second only to Nine's preceding program - The Block Glasshouse. Meaning Nine have won all three advertisers demos from 7:30pm until whatever time BB finished - 10:10pm?
tedfthis
OLD Member, Gold Coast
I'll wait to see the amended results. One swallow doesnt make a Summer.
You have me wrong if you THINK I want the programme to fail, because I dont. I've already stated in these forums that Masterchef and Big Brother are the only 2 realty programmes that I watch. I'm happy if the numbers go higher, but they would have to go much higher for 9 to bid again for the franchise IMO. The late time slot and no live hourly feeds from the main site has pissed a lot of people off and probably lost them a lot of their usual target audience.
These networks bid for programmes out of bastardry, just to stop the other networks from getting them. Why do we have a Summer of cricket, then when the Aussies are playing overseas, we dont get to watch the matches, thats another blatant disregard for the viewers?
The networks back channels are just full of advertorials and repeats of old programmes, so just because they bid for more than one sport, theres no need to not show much of it.
Haha. My post was a bit tongue in cheek. Although I didn't think you ever wanted the program to fail, your recent posts suggested to me that you thought nine wanted it to fail. That logic I can't follow.
I completely agree that they counter-program and even partake in some despicable behaviour. For example, Nine hold the rights to Sale of the Century / Temptation even though they have no plans to show it, just to stop the other channels from getting it. They also have kept the rights to Australia's Got Talent and they bought the rights to the new format 'Rising Star' - all just to spite themselves and stop the other networks having access to these formats.
For me that's a very real possibility and not a good option - that Nine would continue to sit on the rights of BB into the future and not produce it.
All that being said, the show has been #2 in the younger two demos quite consistently (if you take out the scheduling mess of Thursday's / Friday's) and in the top 5 in the older demo most nights. This is not one swallow. It's a real trend.
Contrary to your suspicions (
) I have NEVER worked in the industry so I work only on speculation myself and just a pure interest so I have been following Australian ratings for a couple of years. David Knox at TVTonight who does know a lot about this stuff says that BB demo ratings means it makes more money than it costs. Channel nine (in fact all of the networks) have been struggling to find profitable programming in the post 8:30pm slots so that's why I think they might be happy with BB. If they do renew it wouldn't surprise me to see it continue in the post 8:30pm slots.In the end though, the networks make weird decisions all the time. I could be completely wrong, so could you. Who knows. Lol
tedfthis
OLD Member, Gold Coast
I dont think I ever said 9 WANTED it to fail, because obviously as a business they wouldnt. But I have alluded to the fact, more than once that 9 are CAUSING it to fail.
Considering the scheduling mess this season, Big Brother has actually held up better than I would have expected. I will admit I was a little concerned about where things were heading a week or so ago, but this week, back in the high 600 thousands in total people, and with demo figures that Nine would be more than happy with. We have more scheduling chaos ahead, so who knows where things will go, but certainly the last two nights have been solid and tonight should be also.
OK. I'll try to give an overall view on whether Nine will renew BB by listing the pros and cons of BB.
Pros:
1) It fills a lot of of the schedule for just one show. With BB running 90 minutes on many nights, that means it fills many hours of programming per week. That means if Nine axes it, they would either need another big reality show or commission lots of other shows to fill the gap.
2) It performs well and is usually 2nd in the 16-39 and 18-49 demos, with the 25-54 numbers fluctuating. Nine won all 3 demos last year, and they will be looking to retain that crown. BB will help them with the two younger demos.
3) It does reasonably well Total numbers for its timeslot. The expectations of show running from 8:40-10:20ish on most nights is a lot less than what it would be in the 7:30 slot, and BB doesn't do to badly on a timeslot basis.
Cons:
1) Lower Total numbers and weak retention numbers out of The Block: The total people numbers are weak. There's no denying that. While it is performing only slightly lower than Seven's shows in that timeslot. Seven's 7:30 shows are performing lower than The Block. Nine loses a lot more viewers between The Block and BB than what Seven does between their 7:30 and their later programming. Nine may think that they can put other shows in the 8:40 slot that would retain more of The Block audience.
2) Comparisons to other Nine show are weak. Love Child, Fat Tony and Co and House Husbands were all strong demographically and performing better than Big Brother in total people by several hundred thousand viewers. However, those are all scripted dramas, which are expensive to produce and Nine can't afford to produce enough of them to fill the BB slots. But could other non-scripted shows do better than BB, like the scripted dramas have?
3) The Big Bang theory. That show has been used to fill holes across the schedule quite a bit and rates well. When Excess Baggage flopped in 2012, Nine were able to throw Big Bang repeats across the schedule to cover the hole.
That being said, Nine are already using Big Bang on many nights even with BB. So if BB was removed next year, they would surely need something else to cover some of the schedule.
Pros:
1) It fills a lot of of the schedule for just one show. With BB running 90 minutes on many nights, that means it fills many hours of programming per week. That means if Nine axes it, they would either need another big reality show or commission lots of other shows to fill the gap.
2) It performs well and is usually 2nd in the 16-39 and 18-49 demos, with the 25-54 numbers fluctuating. Nine won all 3 demos last year, and they will be looking to retain that crown. BB will help them with the two younger demos.
3) It does reasonably well Total numbers for its timeslot. The expectations of show running from 8:40-10:20ish on most nights is a lot less than what it would be in the 7:30 slot, and BB doesn't do to badly on a timeslot basis.
Cons:
1) Lower Total numbers and weak retention numbers out of The Block: The total people numbers are weak. There's no denying that. While it is performing only slightly lower than Seven's shows in that timeslot. Seven's 7:30 shows are performing lower than The Block. Nine loses a lot more viewers between The Block and BB than what Seven does between their 7:30 and their later programming. Nine may think that they can put other shows in the 8:40 slot that would retain more of The Block audience.
2) Comparisons to other Nine show are weak. Love Child, Fat Tony and Co and House Husbands were all strong demographically and performing better than Big Brother in total people by several hundred thousand viewers. However, those are all scripted dramas, which are expensive to produce and Nine can't afford to produce enough of them to fill the BB slots. But could other non-scripted shows do better than BB, like the scripted dramas have?
3) The Big Bang theory. That show has been used to fill holes across the schedule quite a bit and rates well. When Excess Baggage flopped in 2012, Nine were able to throw Big Bang repeats across the schedule to cover the hole.
That being said, Nine are already using Big Bang on many nights even with BB. So if BB was removed next year, they would surely need something else to cover some of the schedule.
tedfthis
OLD Member, Gold Coast
They have to show a certain percentage of local content programmes, so if they didnt have Big Brother, they would have to make something else. On the basis of having 24/7 feeds available to use, they arent utilising their product very well. Its surely getting to the stage, where these reality shows are going to be a passing phase. How many house renovations do people want to watch? I still can't understand why it rates so well. Obviously, because the other channels have on even shittier programmes. Next, The Bridge, where we convert Sydney Harbour Bridge into 225 units with harbour views.
That just made me burst out laughing!! Thanks for that... always love having an unexpected belly laugh.
Crazy thing is it'd probably rate through the roof.
55% of content aired the FTA networks between 6am and midnight must be local content. However, I think Nine would still meet that easily, even without BB.
They have Today, Mornings and Morning News from 6am-midday (6 hours). They then have 2.5 hours of news in the afternoon, followed by Hot Seat, then another hour of News, followed by A Current Affair. In total, that's 10.5 hours of local content between 6am and Midnight, giving them 58%. Plus, they normally have a reality show at 7:30pm, which would put them well over the line.
They have Today, Mornings and Morning News from 6am-midday (6 hours). They then have 2.5 hours of news in the afternoon, followed by Hot Seat, then another hour of News, followed by A Current Affair. In total, that's 10.5 hours of local content between 6am and Midnight, giving them 58%. Plus, they normally have a reality show at 7:30pm, which would put them well over the line.