BBBA Podcast – Day 24 – Part 1

We’re bringing you another stinky fresh episode of BBBA podcasts. In 2 parts! And in this episode we’re talking:

– Bitching about official website and lil sis – she actually called us!
– Gretel’s fling with Bodie
– Rundown of the housemates part 1
– vid has a rant on the HMs
– Everyone saying “I’m not going to change”

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House negativity and telling us who to vote for

We’re three weeks into the show and I finally have a moment to actually sit down and blog about the show. This is my first blog entry for 2007, but you may have found me spilling my guts in our BBBA podcasts over the last few weeks.

I don’t think I’m making a huge sweeping generalisation when I say interest in this season has been diminished. Ratings are down, and the general consensus on the forums is that this season is just not engaging enough. But so far we’ve had lots of in-house fights, behind the back bitching and plenty of joking around. This is supposed to be entertaining footage right?

A lot of the time people assume I’m 100% against Big Brother because this site is constantly criticising the show. This isn’t true – right now I am fully addicted to watching the daily show. I think its great viewing. So what if Adults Only is canceled? I never watched it anyway, there is only so much you can bare about people talking about their penises. And shower scenes? Well you can see more hardcore pornography on the internet for free. No adults only doesn’t mean the death of the show.

What I think IS killing the show is the constant, unnecessary and baffling interfering of the house and the natural flow of the show by ridiculous “twists” and specials shows. It’s getting out of hand. Really we are three weeks into the show but how well do you know the housemates? They are still relative strangers to me because we just haven’t had enough time to take a step back and watch what is going on.

I don’t understand why the producers won’t give us some breathing time – they are so preoccupied with throwing twists into the house, introducing new people and promoting flashy gimmicks (Golden Key URGH) they’re starting to beat the dead horse that is Big Brother. The housemates are not boring, but people are tuning away because they haven’t been given a chance to actually learn and connect with the people they see on their television screen. Have we even had a week of “normal” Big Brother yet? What happens when the producers use up all of their twists by week 5? And now there is word MORE intruders will be put in to combat failing ratings. Give me a break.. please…!

If its a matter of filling up their required Australian television content levels then whats the problem in extending the daily show? Extend it to an hour and you have immediately doubled your Australian content. Either way, we need to see more of what is actually happening in the house, and not these prescripted, predictable lame excuses for television. STOP INTERFERING AND JUST LET THE HOUSE RUN ITSELF FOR A BIT. Producers don’t you realise Big Brother is supposed to be unscripted reality? Or are you scared things will slip out of your control? If so, then maybe you shouldn’t be involved with a reality television show because right now with every lame twist you pull its another nail in the BBAU coffin. I shudder to think you think this is actually good quality television – ITS NOT, and I’m not the only person who thinks so.

Or is this just for money? The Golden Key show was basically a one hour ad for a lolly company. Kris Noble and Tim Toni, if you prioritise your sponsors over your viewers, they will tune out and take those sponsors with them. The falling ratings are proof.


Gah.. with that rant out of the way I would like to make one last complaint about the blatant position towards voting. Why is Big Brother, Gretel Killeen, and Lil Sis telling us how to vote? It’s utterly unproffesional they are trying to sway something that is the public vote.

“Keep the interesting housemates in” translates to the production team scared the HMs who pull in the ratings will be kicked out. Well thats their problem. If all the interesting housemates are voted out they only have themselves to blame. They should have picked ALL interesting housemates from the beginning. Kris Noble you’ve been running this show for 4 years now – you know how these things work so why do you make the same mistakes over and over?

Frankly I feel insulted that the BB production tries to passive-agressively blameshift the fact a show is boring on the viewers. There is a reason why people vote out the interesting ones – because they are the ones who they get the most emotional with. Viewers should be able to choose who they want to vote out without being labeled the reason a show becomes boring. If producers chose all interesting people from the begining there would be no problem!

Terms like “under the radar” wouldn’t exist if the producers actually thought about a little planning and proper housemate recruitment.

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Day 22

Day 22, 8:05pm. Gretel appears to the house and reveals that TJ has been evicted. After hugs and kisses to everyone, she strikes a pose and departs through the front door. The HMs all go outside to listen to the live audience’s reaction. Bodie is certain that there’s going to be another eviction.

In the bedroom, Emma asks Aleisha if she’s happy to be here for another week. “Hell yeah. We’re all still together.” Emma happy proclaims, “They can’t break us!”. Emma isn’t surprised that Hayley exercised the nominations power on her; she says it was going to be someone she got along with – either her or TJ.

8:30pm. BB orders HMs to return to the lounge. Travis suggests that it’s TJ’s message from the grave, but is quickly proven wrong. Gretel announces that it’s time to go… “Bodie!”. Several HMs take this hard. Emma is in tears. They applaud him right out the door. Hayley hugs Emma, saying it’ll be okay. Several other HMs try to comfort her as she escapes to the bedroom.

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8:33pm. Outside, they listen for the crowd reaction to Bodie. Travis tells Andrew and Thomas that “that group’s going to struggle without their ring leader.” Aleisha tells Emma that they have to stick together now. They’re both in disbelief. Aleisha says the whole TJ thing “had him buggered.” Emma says she’s angry. She thinks all the other HMs (outside of their group) don’t actually care. “So fake…” Emma and Aleisha run off back indoors to hang up Bodie’s drink tag with the other evicted HMs.

Meanwhile, Hayley tells Nick she was “so depressed when TJ went”. But now she’s “rapt, I’m so happy.” Nick sort of agrees, saying he’s hurt for [Bodie], but happy for the house. Hayley says Nick’s going to meet “14 new people”. They’ll all be relaxed, they can be themselves. She then says they should go join the group so it doesn’t look like they’ve been bitching. “I just want to smile”.

A teary Emma tells Aleisha and Billy that she just doesn’t have many friends in here. She can’t believe she wasn’t taken out and he was. Billy says she’s stayed for a reason. They lover her, that’s all that matters.

8:57pm. It’s raining. Zoran, Billy, Thomas, Rebecca, Demet, Emma, and Aleisha are under cover. Zoran says he’s tempted to “do a Bodie” and go and lie in the rain. They all agree to go do it. They take off their mics and go lie down on the astro turf, laughing and stretching. Zoran stays down the longest.

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10:42pm. TJ’s eviction message is playing. She loves them all and hopes they all have a “phat” time, and that they all come visit her. Everyone cheers for her, and then even louder when Bodie appears on the screen. He focuses on the four people that are “most important” to him. Billy & Joel, thanks for theit mateship and friendship. Aleisha – “you are a massive cute-head.” Demet aswell, she’s an amazing girl. He tells Andrew and Hayley (who laugh and wave) to “keep playing the game, I suppose”. He wishes he had four hands so he could give them “four thumbs down right now”. (Almost) everyone laughs and cheers at that. Emma has definitely been his rock in this place, she made it easier to be here. He thanks everyone. Hopefully he’ll see some of them soon. Hayley: “Not me, buddy.”

Andrew points out that he and Hayley aren’t fake and he thinks most people here know that they’re not, and despite what Demet has expressed, despite not knowing what was really expressed in that room… Demet interrupts, happy to have this discussion. Travis says he spent two days in the RR with Andrew and thinks he’s a good bloke. Demet tells him they’re genuine to your face but not behind your back. Hayley and Andrew take exception to that and challenge Demet to justify what she said. Zoran says he’s been hearing things and felt kind of “stabbed” when Andrew not only didn’t take him into the RR but today gave him the janitor role. As they talk, many of the other HMs get up and leave. Andrew says the RR decision was made ages ago and that janitor is probably the easiest chore.

Zoran says there’s a pattern here – he’s upset, Bodie was upset, Demet’s upset, obviously there’s a bit of a pattern going on. Andrew says a lot of what they’re going on about is hearsay. He did not say anything bad about him in the RR. Zoran challenges Andrew to look at Demet and say that she’s been lying. Demet shakes her head. Outside, Hayley can’t believe what’s going on in there. Travis says he doesn’t like this sort of stuff. Aleisha giggles.

Back in the lounge, Andrew says they don’t have a game plan, but they are here to play the game. And that’s the only way he can explain it. He says Hayley keeps getting upset about it, and he has to tell her that “it’s just a game, just a game.” Everyone in this house has to play the game. Hayley is back in the room now. Andrew says Demet has been gutless, just sitting back and listening to what she wants to hear, not bothering to clarify with him. Demet brings up Nick and how Hayley and Andrew have tried to recruit him. She just warned him when he came in that she thinks they’re really playing the game. Andrew reiterates his point about her not confronting him – “you are possibly the most fake person in here!”

Nick has escaped outside and fills in Aleisha, Thomas, and Travis about what’s going on. Thomas says this place bring out the best and the worst [in you].

Hayley tells Demet to say who else is being fake. Demet doesn’t want to share that with her, she’s told them straight to their face. Andrew doesn’t believe her. “You’re an absolute joke, you’re an absolute joke. You will sit there, and you’ll listen to whatever’s heard, to make little judgements, to calculate…” Hayley says she’s upset people like Emma for no reason. Why would she have chosen to save someone she hated?

Andrew leaves the room shaking his head. Demet says she has nothing to say to them now.

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12:14am. In the bedroom, Demet calls herself the “new Bodie”. In the lounge, Zoran and Andrew apologise to each other and shake hands.

Jamie and Nick enter the spa. Nick says that from the moment he came through the door, the sh*t has just hit the fan. Jamie agrees but says it’s not about Nick, it’s just the timing. After the first few weeks, “the honeymoon’s over, and now we’re into marriage. And it’s not nice.”

In the kitchen, Emma tells Billy and Demet that there’s non doubt in her mind that Hayley & Andrew are playing the game. Some people are here to win the game, that’s all they have on their mind. In the spa, Nick agrees that he completely misread Demet. Jamie doesn’t know what to make of the whole mess. Nick says Demet has completely set Zoran up to be pissed off about Hayley & Andrew.

In the kitchen, Emma apologises to Zoran for him being roped into all this. She says everything’s gotten nasty in here because they have nothing better to do than talk about each other. Outside, Jamie questions the whole thing about Hayley and Andrew filling Nick with “crap” and getting him on their side. Nick has no idea where that came from, the only HM they talked about in the RR was Bodie. Nick says he will make up his own mind about people. In the kitchen Emma says they should appreciate Demet being so honest to all of them.

Nick confirms with Jamie that Demet is Muslin. He hesitantly wonders about whether or not young Muslin girls are allowed to show as much skin as Demet does, and bellydance etc. Jamie explains that by saying there are many different types of Muslims, and she’s of a more liberal following. But he doesn’t understand completely.

In their bed, Andrew tells Hayley that Demet’s a nobody in this place, don’t worry about her. They can’t believe how fake she’s been to them, and is glad Zoran understands them now. They kiss and decide to go to sleep as the show ends.

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Day 19

9.33am – Jamie is swimming around in the pool, not very well. Brodie says he’s going to put the porridge on because “I never do anything around here”. Demet suggests he puts a packet of lollies through the porridge as a joke. Bodie runs with it and says its the best idea she’s had since she’s been in the house. Lights are coming on in the bedroom. Bodie suggests they put sultanas and almonds in with the lollies. They put the lollies in while the porridge is cooking on the stove… oh and some juice. Bodie says “people don’t realise how much improvisation is in cooking… after this they’re going to make me shopper chef”. Travis emerges from the bedroom and says breakfast looks good. Demet takes the first taste… its like bubblegum and they can taste the juice as well. Bodie and Demet jump around in excitement.

Bodie gets Emma to come out of the bedroom and taste the porridge. She says its good – “best in the world”. Bodie reveals theres lollies in it, and Emma says “oh thats good”. Bodie calls it hyper-porridge and dances around some more. Thomas is the next to try it.

Emma goes into the bedroom and tells the housemates still in bed whats in this morning’s porridge. Susannah asks why Bodie wasted on that food. Hayley says its child-like behaviour, and TJ adds if you looked in the dictionary under irrational it would have Bodie. Hayley is angry – saying he always mucks up and every time she builds a bridge and gets over him, he does something else wrong and she goes “URGH!”. The girls all share their anger and Emma suggests they have a meeting or group chat about sharing food. Hayley says theres a time for fun and a time for … not wasting food.

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12.13pm – Everyone has been called to the living room for the meeting. Thomas guesses the meeting is because of the porridge this morning. Andrew starts, directing at Bodie that with every day people are getting more and more pissed off with the things he does. Bodie says its not like he made the porridge for himself, he thought it was a good idea for the group. Bodie then calls for a group vote on who liked the porridge, counting the number of hands that go up. Emma says its not the point – they need to talk about rationing food and treats among the group. Bodie says this discussion was directed at him, claiming Andrew is just using it to vent at his problems with Bodie. Andrew responds saying he can live side by side with Bodie and not get pissed off but there are people in the house that see things in the house that Bodie does as irresponsible and not decisions that would be made by…. inconsiderate of other people. Hayley interrupts – there have been constant breaches of the rules in the house by Bodie, like not making people feel bad. She knows she’s being called the fun police but she is bringing it up so everyone in the house can have fun and not just one seperate group.

Bodie is hurt there are not more people speaking out on this… he thought there were more people who thought the same as him and the fact they’re not ball-sey enough to say it how it is.

Bodie: This is how it is – if there are people in this house you don’t get along with you shouldn’t have to.

TJ: Don’t get defensive we’re just airing stuff. Yes its uncomfortable.. but we have to be mature and nip it in the butt otherwise things will fester in each and everyone one of us.

Bodie: I accept and understand… but I’m not going to change. Sorry.

Bodie then gets people who have had fines to raise their hands with the number of fines indicated. Bodie makes the point that almost everyone has had fines but everyone needs to take it on board. Hayley says they’re not talking about geniune mistakes but the blatant disregard of the rules Bodie has been showing, and when people find it amusing. Bodie then questions when he’s found a fine amusing.. Hayley says there are many times.

Bodie: Two! I’ve got two [fines] .. are you blind?

Hayley: There’s no need to be rude Bodie, I’m trying to be constructive. Does anybody not feel, as though Bodie perhaps has given a little bit more of a disregard for the rules…

Bodie asks then why doesn’t he have more fines? Yelling breaks out and Hayley says “you do it every fucking day!”. Zoran yells and stops and clarifies that everyone is trying to says it doesn’t matter how many fines people have … at the end of the day when this meeting ends we’re still going to hold a grudge. Thomas asks if anyone else has anything to say.

Rebecca: Can I just say that I’m not a very confronational person and I do not find it easy to discuss my feelings with people, especially if they have hurt me. (she starts crying) and I understand if people don’t get along with me thats fine, but as a person I’m really a non-exclusive person and I value everybody and I want to get to know everybody.

Everyone claps. Demet laughs. Hayley continues that Rebecca was petrified to come out with that because she was scared she would be shut down and excluded from the group because she’s different on so many levels. “Do you understand how brave it is to say that when no one understands her? I don’t even understand her! but she put herself out there and put herself in here so we could learn”. Hayley gets teary and tells everyone to make her feel secure in her own home.

Bodie: I never intentionally go out of my way to hurt some one’s feelings and if there are people who I am upsetting I’m sorry. Thats just me.

Aleisha says if everyone makes an effort, it should be rosey. Emma is silent.

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12.56pm – Andrew walks up to Bodie and apologises for the conversation before but says he said it straight out how it was. Meanwhile Emma is in the lounge room saying sorry to Rebecca if she upset her. She thinks they have meshed the least but its not her intention to upset people – if they don’t get along they just purely not get along. She doesn’t think they have been nasty in any way. “It’s not in me to be cruel”. If she has upset Rebecca its not her intention.

Andrew is now defending Hayley saying people look at her as a mother figure. Bodie says maybe the problem is he hasn’t seen her as a mother figure.

Since the meeting started Bodie has not taken off his sunglasses, and there is a waver in his voice as if he’s trying to hold back tears.

Rebecca hopes from now on people will make an effort with everything. She feels better… “we can smile again”.

2.18pm – Apparently Demet has a psychic sixth sense… so she says. She asks Emma and Aleisha to give her names of people and she will give them a psychic reading about them. Emma imemdiately says “Rebecca” and Demet says “likes you”.

Bodie.. “likes you”

Zoran… “mmmrm… doesn’t know”

Thomas… “fake”. (They’re being fake with her). Emma says “Yeah I reckon that too”

Hayley… “fake”

Andrew joins them on the bed and the discussion turns to hair products and how they have to wait until shopping time. The girl talk turns Andrew away and they immediately ask Demet for her take on Andrew. Demet says “they’re [him and Hayley] are in it together”. They agree they’ve got a strategy and they are really competitive, especially when there is money involved. They are “definately here to play”. They ask Billy what he thinks – he finds it hard because he already knew Hayley before entering the house, then goes to answer but Hayley enters the bedroom. Billy is lying on the bed and can’t see Hayley enter so Emma loudly interrupts Billy with a “Hellooo!” to Hayley to get him to stop talking. Billy says he didn’t think he would last in the house, but as soon as Hayley leaves the room he says the couple are definately playing the game.

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9.52pm – Nick tells the housemates he has a few extra priviledges as the golden key winner. He can pick three other housemates into the rewards room for a celebratory party of his entrance. He choses Hayley, Andrew and Demet. He says those three have made him feel extremely comfortable and welcome since he arrived. They go into the rewards room with is full of balloons and food. Demet says its amazing and hugs Nick. The revealing window is opened and the other housemates crowd to watch. All of the food is kids party food like rainbow bread. Zoel and Bodie can’t watch and leave the bedroom. Thomas says its ok because he’ll be in there on the weekend. The party housemates toast with champagne.

Bodie and Emma run into the diary room to talk to Big Brother. TJ and Joel follow them behind. Emma sits down in the diary room chair with Bodie, turns to see TJ has come in and says “oh god”. They ask BB if they can have party pies. Bodie says he’s not happy for some of the people in the rewards room but Demet they are. TJ feels Andrew and Hayley aren’t the best choice because they’ve already been in that house, plus “Bodie hates Hayley”.

Bodie: She feels like a very domineering character, and I think her and Andrew at times are a little bit like this (he puts his thumb up to his forehead).

In the rewards room Hayley thanks Nick for inviting them in. He says there are a couple of people he really would have like to bring in, but he gestures to suggest he wasn’t able to because of the current politics of the house. The revealing window is then frosted. Nick says he’s a good judge of character and picked the right three to join him.

1.14am – Bodie is putting shaving cream on Billy’s hand while he sleeps. He then gets a piece of string and tickles Billy’s face. Aleisha, Thomas and Joel are watching on. Billy naturally goes to scratch his face, smearing shaving cream all over his eye. It wakes him up but he’s still half asleep and doesn’t do anything about it, but smiles. It’s obvious who was responsible – they’re all giggling louldy under their bed covers.

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