If Tim is the psychopath as you say , why is Ed the one making me feel uncomfortable?
Tim's Jedi Mind tricks obviously.
You looked into his eyes, you looked into his eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, *click*, you're under.
If Tim is the psychopath as you say , why is Ed the one making me feel uncomfortable?
A diagnosed narcissist destroyed my entire family, mother ended up mortgaging the family home & giving the money away, father was bashed while he had cancer, etc. I have an extreme dislike for anybody with personality disorder symptoms.Tim has admitted he is Narcissistic, if he can't use you to better his cause I think he said ... your dead to me...laughing but kinda serious. He admits it. I am a Tim Cult follower, fully aware of his antics and I for one take my hat off to him for playing the game the way he has, BB has not provided any real good entertainment via tasks, Tim has done it all he is in his own little Freudian experiment.
All part of the narcissist's book of tricks, Tim playing the victim while somebody is standing up to him.If Tim is the psychopath as you say , why is Ed the one making me feel uncomfortable?
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)
Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".
This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.
The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.
The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.
Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)
Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".
This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.
The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.
The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.
Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades
A diagnosed narcissist destroyed my entire family, mother ended up mortgaging the family home & giving the money away, father was bashed while he had cancer, etc. I have an extreme dislike for anybody with personality disorder symptoms.
On the contrary, narcissists have great people skills, but they are generally dont know it.Narcissists are not emotionally observant people because they spend too much mental energy on their ego. Tim is very observant.
Tim is also honest about his inflated ego and is (seen) to have capacity to reflect on past events... another trait that narcissists don't have.
His emotional intelligence combined with his need to be in the spot light is what makes him interesting.
He's just a douche.
Special Ed doesn't seem as bad as he used to. I still don't like him, just dislike him less than I used to, but dislike Tim more now.
Tim has admitted he is Narcissistic, if he can't use you to better his cause I think he said ... your dead to me...laughing but kinda serious. He admits it. I am a Tim Cult follower, fully aware of his antics and I for one take my hat off to him for playing the game the way he has, BB has not provided any real good entertainment via tasks, Tim has done it all he is in his own little Freudian experiment.
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)
Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".
This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.
The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.
The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.
Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades
That's a very valid comment. Narcissists tens to be egosyntonic; Tim is egodystonic, introspective and reflective. But personalty disorder traits don't always follow the textbook.
I agree with 99% .... I don't think Tim is a narcissist just because he proclaims himself one. I think I'm goddamn hot sexy and smart but strangely not everyone agrees (confused face lol). But the rest I agree with. He is the most entertaining character I have ever seen on BB, and he does it without ever really being mean and still providing genuine comfort and support when people are truly down or struggling. He is just having fun, trying to win a bit and still having a good heart. Loving him
Of course I know the difference, and I see traits in many people that are not diagnosable disorders.I'm sorry for what you and your family have been through, i was in a relationship with someone with a personality disorder so i understand the fear when you recognise a personality trait in someone else
But do you know the difference between a "personality trait" and a "personality disorder symptom"??
Nothing...
Personality disorders run a lot deeper than that