Tim the psychopath - his tricks, and Ed

Poxy

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#22
Tim has admitted he is Narcissistic, if he can't use you to better his cause I think he said ... your dead to me...laughing but kinda serious. He admits it. I am a Tim Cult follower, fully aware of his antics and I for one take my hat off to him for playing the game the way he has, BB has not provided any real good entertainment via tasks, Tim has done it all he is in his own little Freudian experiment.
A diagnosed narcissist destroyed my entire family, mother ended up mortgaging the family home & giving the money away, father was bashed while he had cancer, etc. I have an extreme dislike for anybody with personality disorder symptoms.
 
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pwta

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#23
Oh good God. I heard enough psycho-babble crap on this page last season. I do not need my HMs analysed by people whose scope of expertise is based on what they see on a TV show
 

spygirl99

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#25
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)

Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".

This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.


The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.

The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.

Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades

Yes, he definately wears his opponent down. He talks over them and turns the tables, making himself the victim when he is mostly the aggressor. People sometimes mistake sociopathic tendencies with violence, etc. But I think there is like varying degree's for sociopathy, a scale? Tim is EXTREMELY selfish/egocentric, and doesn't seem to care a damn about other people's feelings. That is some socipathic behaviours. Maybe narcissistic as well?
 
#27
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)

Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".

This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.

The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.

The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.

Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades
So, basically, just because you know someone who's a bit like Tim, you're qualified to provide a detailed psychological profile of someone who you have never met and in fact have only observed through edited highlights on TV. I've never heard of anything so stupid in all my life. Go away and come back when you have something relevant to say.
 
#28
OP: The reason I disagree with your analysis is that Tim has shown more sensitiity to other people's feelings than many other housemates and he is able to connect with them emotionally. Unlike say Ed, Matthew, Xavier and Tahan.

Narcissists are not emotionally observant people because they spend too much mental energy on their ego. Tim is very observant.

Tim is also honest about his inflated ego and is (seen) to have capacity to reflect on past events... another trait that narcissists don't have. Tahan is a typical narcissist and she sees nothing wrong with the way she treated the sugar sisters.

His emotional intelligence combined with his need to be in the spot light is what makes him interesting.
 
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#29
I'm pretty sure people give Tim too much credit for the way and reasons as to why he acts the way that he does lol.
You're simply another brain washed and abused victim to Channel 9's edits and propaganda
just sit back and enjoy the show

#TeamTim
 
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babyblueeyes

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#30
A diagnosed narcissist destroyed my entire family, mother ended up mortgaging the family home & giving the money away, father was bashed while he had cancer, etc. I have an extreme dislike for anybody with personality disorder symptoms.
I'm sorry for what you and your family have been through, i was in a relationship with someone with a personality disorder so i understand the fear when you recognise a personality trait in someone else

But do you know the difference between a "personality trait" and a "personality disorder symptom"??

Nothing...

Personality disorders run a lot deeper than that
 
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Patrick37

Guest
#31
Poxy,for me you won this years big price
the price of
MOST STUPID POST of the season
can you analyse that for me?
 

Poxy

Well-Known Member
#32
Narcissists are not emotionally observant people because they spend too much mental energy on their ego. Tim is very observant.
On the contrary, narcissists have great people skills, but they are generally dont know it.

Tim is also honest about his inflated ego and is (seen) to have capacity to reflect on past events... another trait that narcissists don't have.

His emotional intelligence combined with his need to be in the spot light is what makes him interesting.
That's a very valid comment. Narcissists tens to be egosyntonic; Tim is egodystonic, introspective and reflective. But personalty disorder traits don't always follow the textbook.
 

Chump

Well-Known Member
#34
Tim has admitted he is Narcissistic, if he can't use you to better his cause I think he said ... your dead to me...laughing but kinda serious. He admits it. I am a Tim Cult follower, fully aware of his antics and I for one take my hat off to him for playing the game the way he has, BB has not provided any real good entertainment via tasks, Tim has done it all he is in his own little Freudian experiment.
I agree with 99% .... I don't think Tim is a narcissist just because he proclaims himself one. I think I'm goddamn hot sexy and smart but strangely not everyone agrees (confused face lol). But the rest I agree with. He is the most entertaining character I have ever seen on BB, and he does it without ever really being mean and still providing genuine comfort and support when people are truly down or struggling. He is just having fun, trying to win a bit and still having a good heart.
 
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Light

Guest
#35
Here's a brief intro to how Tim's (and psychopaths) minds works.
(First of all he's closer to borderline traits than antisocial traits but thats another story)

Its all about control. In Tims' case, start calling people "idiots". If they don't respond and complain, just keep on taking it further and further. Start abusing them to their face etc and wear them down and create chaos. In the end Tim can call anybody anything he wants and people are too warn down to react. If they complain, twist twist the story to make out you are the victim. That is, the victimiser pretends to be the victim. In the end you control people by wearing them down and "gaslighting".

This is what Ed is trying to point out in his unsophisticated way. As soon as Ed & Tim talk about Tim's behaviour, Tim sees this as a perfect time to play victim again and try to confuse the audience & add more chaos.

The manipulator (Tim) will often brainwash followers into their own mini cult, and in this case the cult includes part of the TV audience. The followers seem oblivious to abuse & will follow their leader regardless, a sort of Stockholm syndrome.

The manipulator never admit to manipulating anything, and redirect everything back to the accuser.

Additional reading:
Malignant Narcissism http://www.drirene.com/catbox/index.php?showtopic=40676
Borderline Personality Disorder, family member perspective (is this how Ed is behaving?) http://www.bpdfamily.com/bpdresources/nk_a119.htm
Gaslighting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
Stockholm syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

My background: Close relative with a personality disorder, I've dealt with these tricks for decades
With all due respect, although I appreciate your personal experience, I don't think it's fair for people to make judgements on a person's mental health based solely on what they see on a carefully edited strategic television show. For all we know Tim could be playing a character for entertainment purposes after all he is in the entertainment industry. Many people distance themselves emotionally from people as a coping mechanism only to protect themselves from being hurt. We don't know what Tim's upbringing is or his personal challenges in his life. We frankly don't have the proper background or qualifications to be making judgments as to who he is as a person, and especially not what we perceive his 'private' clinical medial diagnosis is. Saying someone acted like a jerk in a situation and judging their mental health is a completely different thing. Imagine for one moment that your perception is wrong and now you have labelled him as a psychopath on a public forum. It's morally irresponsible in my opinion.
 

Chump

Well-Known Member
#36
That's a very valid comment. Narcissists tens to be egosyntonic; Tim is egodystonic, introspective and reflective. But personalty disorder traits don't always follow the textbook.
There is current debate whether narcissism should even be in the psychologists bible given it isn't necessarily a disorder that can be 'treated' versus recognition of a personality trait. And by 'treated' I mean managed by therapy, drugs or removal from society. It's like saying someone is overly nice,you don't treat that you just know it as a trait. That aside I don't believe he meets the actual definition of a narcissist
 

l.a.r.a

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#37
I agree with 99% .... I don't think Tim is a narcissist just because he proclaims himself one. I think I'm goddamn hot sexy and smart but strangely not everyone agrees (confused face lol). But the rest I agree with. He is the most entertaining character I have ever seen on BB, and he does it without ever really being mean and still providing genuine comfort and support when people are truly down or struggling. He is just having fun, trying to win a bit and still having a good heart. Loving him
For sure the show wouldn't have been the same without him. I remember in the old BB, when HMs played pranks often, it was funny. I don't mind if Tim wins, because IMO he worked for it. He is not my favorite, but I wouldn't mind if he wins
 

Poxy

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#38
I'm sorry for what you and your family have been through, i was in a relationship with someone with a personality disorder so i understand the fear when you recognise a personality trait in someone else

But do you know the difference between a "personality trait" and a "personality disorder symptom"??

Nothing...

Personality disorders run a lot deeper than that
Of course I know the difference, and I see traits in many people that are not diagnosable disorders.

And from personal experience you need to consult a psychologist/psychiatrist who specialises in personality disorders. In my relative's case they were forced to seek treatment under court order, which may have helped a bit.
 
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senna

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#39
"Tim the psychopath - his tricks, and Ed"

Tim the psychopath is fun to watch. His tricks are amazing. And Ed? what about him? he's irrelevant
 
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