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Politics of Estelle and Bradley

Not that you've done this deliberately, but please don't assume just because someone's gay that they're going to be automatically far left.
I'm more left than right but I have a few conservative views and a fair few of my guy friends who are gay have very conservative views.

I based that only on gay rights, and their guru being gay - I reckon otherwise Ben could be pretty conservative, he's a capitalist and lives in Toorak
 
Zoe=conservative

So, a heathly libertarian/centrist/small government supporter in other words.

Ben=Green, what other party is there for a gay man?

Ask Alan Jones. Conservative/centrist/libertarian/SMALL GOVERNMENT surely makes for a better choice for the likes of Ben than a MASSIVE IN YOUR FACE, BEDROOM, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE TOTALITARIAN government, the latter being exactly the kind of government the greenazis want FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.

No wonder Alan Jones favours conservatism/centrism/small "mind your own business" government, don't you think ?

Stacey=Green because it's hip, or sex party

Nah, she'd go for the hunters and shooters or whatever it is called. :D

Josh=swing voter

Probably

regarDS
 
Wow. What a stupid (and hate-filled) statement. Anyone with half a brain knows Nazism was an extreme right-wing movement.

No, only those in deliberate denial or who are unthinking drone victims of the largely left-urdian "education" system that TELLs people what to think rather than teaching them HOW to think would think so.

The "National SOCIALIST German workers party" / nazism was merely to the right of the very much so left "Stalinism" (it was competing with it after all) and both of them very much so to the left of all that is good and decent.

Anyhoo, to perhaps aid in your own education and development of critical thinking, please read the following and perhaps even report back. :-)

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html and http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/ and http://dissectleft.blogspot.com.au/ ... for starters.

The Big Lie of the late 20th century was that Nazism was Rightist. It was in fact typical of the Leftism of its day. It was only to the Right of Stalin's Communism. The very word "Nazi" is a German abbreviation for "National Socialist" (Nationalsozialist) and the full name of Hitler's political party (translated) was "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" (In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)

"Because their beliefs serve their ego rather than reality, Leftists just KNOW what is good for us. Conservatives need evidence."

:)

regarDS
 
When those from the right, er, write, I always wonder why it seems that the left is usually concrete, that is, it exists. eg

a raving totalitarian minded left-urd
Fabian Socialist
greenazis

Where the right side of politics seems to be something that the left made up out of thin air, so must be described as though it is "so called", or with Dr-Evil "finger quotes" eg

the political "right"
"right wing"
"conservative"
 
I would have pegged Estelle as a leftie, but her besties seem like the right types, Ray/George/Ryan/Brad likely conservatives.

Why would you say that? I haven't heard any of them talk politics at all!

Also, watching reality TV for 10 years I have had the experience of seeing quite a few that I initially pegged as right wing come out in support of workers' rights, gay marriage etc.
 
Oh sure, do a quick post there to use quotation marks in another way altoghther, jusy muddying my point :-)
 
Why would you say that? I haven't heard any of them talk politics at all!

Also, watching reality TV for 10 years I have had the experience of seeing quite a few that I initially pegged as right wing come out in support of workers' rights, gay marriage etc.

George - capitalist, in a conservative/lib state, mining town resident - doubt he supports carbon tax, parents migrants - usually vote conservative

Ryan - capitalist family, same state, ryan probably doesn't vote or would vote how his rich parents do, the corse he did, he's dumb

Brad - conservative - look at him, everything about him screams conservative, his hair, his little suit, his moaning about a food fight

Ray - he's into conforming right now, consolidating wealth and career. I bet he cut Sarah down to size a few times over animal debates
 
But - we must note, they could have been talking about anything. Maybe they have right views on abortion or some other issue, but not right in general,,,still brad is definitely a right winger

Totally agree. For example, I support workers' rights, welfare and gay marriage, but oppose easy divorce, extreme environmentalism, the carbon tax, banning plastic bags, medicare funding of abortion, legalising drugs (decriminalising is OK), all tariffs and protectionism in trade, inheritance taxes and all antitrust laws. I generally vote Labor, but some self-identified left-wing types have found me too right wing to associate with just based on some of those issues.
 
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Has it been pointed out, "he's a little bit more right wing" is possibly referring to being a bit more towards the center from the left?

as in something like, "we're both left wing, but he is a bit more to the right than I."
 
George - capitalist, in a conservative/lib state, mining town resident - doubt he supports carbon tax, parents migrants - usually vote conservative

Ryan - capitalist family, same state, ryan probably doesn't vote or would vote how his rich parents do, the corse he did, he's dumb

Brad - conservative - look at him, everything about him screams conservative, his hair, his little suit, his moaning about a food fight

Ray - he's into conforming right now, consolidating wealth and career. I bet he cut Sarah down to size a few times over animal debates

Here's my thoughts:
George - likely to vote conservative for the reasons you state. However, I don't see him actively hating left wing types. p.s. I vote Labor but I oppose the Carbon tax too. The environment should never be put ahead of the welfare of the working class.

Ryan - if anything, you have given reasons that make him likely apolitical. Which I think he may be.

Brad and Ray - the reasons you gave are not political. I think you will find many in Young Labor who share these characteristics!
Let me clarify this. Some essentially non-political issues are often made to be political. For example, my very vocal position against any drug use, my frequently speaking out against the oversexualisation of our culture, my absolute support for abstinence outside of permanent commitment, and my critical words on people who have more than one sexual partner have all been made 'political'. But I guess these are all personal preference issues, not political.
p.s. I would hate a food fight too.
 
Hmm. I get -6.62 and -5.03, which puts me somewhere to the left of Gandhi and the Dali Lama. :) No surprise there.

When did "Gandhi" and the "Dali Lama" take the test ... or ANY of the political parties or other names out of history listed there ?

Oh that's right, they didn't and so everything regarding from them is both suspect and irrelevant and should be excluded.

The truth of the matter is YOUR responses and MY responses were recorded and graphed accordingly and neither of us nor anyone else can accurately answer for Gandhi or any other name or political party (not even for the greenazis) the site owner presumes to graph.

I'm surprised that you would think otherwise.

regarDS
 
Has it been pointed out, "he's a little bit more right wing" is possibly referring to being a bit more towards the center from the left?

as in something like, "we're both left wing, but he is a bit more to the right than I."

Yes it has. :D

regarDS
 
Here's my thoughts:
George - likely to vote conservative for the reasons you state. However, I don't see him actively hating left wing types. p.s. I vote Labor but I oppose the Carbon tax too. The environment should never be put ahead of the welfare of the working class.

Ryan - if anything, you have given reasons that make him likely apolitical. Which I think he may be.
Yes that was the point I was making, he's too shallow to be into politics, unless he was posing he wouldn't care

Brad and Ray - the reasons you gave are not political. I think you will find many in Young Labor who share these characteristics!
Let me clarify this. Some essentially non-political issues are often made to be political. For example, my very vocal position against any drug use, my frequently speaking out against the oversexualisation of our culture, my absolute support for abstinence outside of permanent commitment, and my critical words on people who have more than one sexual partner have all been made 'political'. But I guess these are all personal preference issues, not political.
p.s. I would hate a food fight too.

Brad just screams conservative to me. That dickie little suit
Ray, the tom Cruise stuff, the competitive stuff, I don't, just something about him and his past, and a capitalist attitude gives me a young lib feeling
 
Funny - Bradley coming the country I would have thought Nationals. Estelle the Greens or Independent - that she said she was right - wing suprises me.
 
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