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Jade 2013 Appreciation thread

Drade 2013 said:
Was Ed drunk again!? :rolleyes:
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Unusual. I know...(LOLOLOLOL)

I remember in the house a night (friday night drinks) when Ed and Jade were making out in the spa, and Ed explaining to Jade that he was way more experienced than her with this type of thing. I remember thinking at the time - why don't you just tell her that you are a hook-up bandit and if it has a pulse you'll nail it?
 
Pookie said:
As I said on the other open thread- you believe the twitter of a drunk slut about Ed? You really believe the worst about him. So if he talks to a girl, he's disrespecting Jade but you want to push Jade onto some chef for marriage? Get a grip.
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For me I just think they're joking around - seemed to me he and Nick went out, they were having fun this chick was chasing him around all night & Ed is taking it all in good humour like the joke it seems to be. He's just out enjoying himself - l don't consider it a negative OR positive or anything at all to what may be going on with Jade.

The thing with the chef though is light - hearted fun commentary on here,so don't take that too seriously.

That's how I see things anyway.
 
smurfette said:
Unusual. I know...(LOLOLOLOL)

I remember in the house a night (friday night drinks) when Ed and Jade were making out in the spa, and Ed explaining to Jade that he was way more experienced than her with this type of thing. I remember thinking at the time - why don't you just tell her that you are a hook-up bandit and if it has a pulse you'll nail it?
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I always thought that he might be someone that has a lot of one night stands.
 
Insomniac said:
For me I just think they're joking around - seemed to me he and Nick went out, they were having fun this chick was chasing him around all night & Ed is taking it all in good humour like the joke it seems to be. He's just out enjoying himself - l don't consider it a negative OR positive or anything at all to what may be going on with Jade.

The thing with the chef though is light - hearted fun commentary on here,so don't take that too seriously.

That's how I see things anyway.
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Totally agree with you
 
Pookie said:
As I said on the other open thread- you believe the twitter of a drunk slut about Ed? You really believe the worst about him. So if he talks to a girl, he's disrespecting Jade but you want to push Jade onto some chef for marriage? Get a grip.
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Please don't refer to a young random girl on social media who had her conversation reposted on this forum as a slut. For all you know she's a virgin, not that it matters. I feel really uncomfortable with that, even if we found out those 2 shagged (and no obviously I don't think they did). I don't think any of us - I'm referring to sane people... not talking about the few loons during the season - would slut shame each other on here even if we have absolutely opposing views about a HM so I think that common courtesy should be extended to people who aren't even participating in the conversation nor included us in it. This is essentially a kid who appears to go googly eyed at anyone she's ever seen on TV if her Twitter account is any indication. No matter how much we adore our favourites I just think we're better than that. (Not trying to start a MrsB vs Pookie war version 98.0... I just felt sad reading that comment and I'm nothing if not honest.)
 
I have no idea what happened this evening or last weekend or whenever, but if you put Ed and Jade's pictures today side by side, you realize how incompatible their lives and interests are. Jade is focused on family and real emotional connections while Ed is...not. This is exactly why Ed refused to commit to Jade, because he honestly could not promise to give this up. In many ways, you have to admire him, because he knows who he is and what he wants at this point in his life and settling down to movie nights and walks on the beach are not it. I think he enjoys that stuff just fine, but it's just not enough.

I think that in 8-10 years, Ed will be looking for a girl like Jade to settle down with- a gorgeous 24 year old who wants a family and is totally committed to him. I suspect that he knows this on a certain, mostly unconscious, level, and it's why he is drawn to her. She represents much of which he claims to want (in his Prince Charming persona) but he doesn't really want it right now.

Earlier today I read the excellent posts about Jade and her esteem issues (and welcome to our newest poster [MENTION=37936]tanique[/MENTION]) and applauded. If I could sit Jade down right now, I would want to convince her that none of this is about her or a reflection of her worth. So often the narrative in society is that a man will change for the love of a good woman. The corollary to that then tends to be that if he's not willing to change, then there's something wrong with the woman. Jade has internalized that message and, because it fits so well with her lack of worth due to her educational and learning issues, she assumes that if a guy doesn't/can't love her, it's HER fault. But it's really about where the guy is in his life and about HIS emotional maturity, not about her.

Early on in the house, Ed, in his Prince Charming persona, made statements about wanting that wife and family, about feeling like he would be missing out if he didn't have them. I have no doubt that it's true but I don't think he's looking for it, wanting it, or even ready for it right now, even though I think he deliberately gave the impression that he was. Unfortunately, I think Jade fell in love with the guy Ed will probably be in 10 years, not the guy he is right now. It's not her fault that it's not who he is now!
 
Jane Doe said:
I have no idea what happened this evening or last weekend or whenever, but if you put Ed and Jade's pictures today side by side, you realize how incompatible their lives and interests are. Jade is focused on family and real emotional connections while Ed is...not. This is exactly why Ed refused to commit to Jade, because he honestly could not promise to give this up. In many ways, you have to admire him, because he knows who he is and what he wants at this point in his life and settling down to movie nights and walks on the beach are not it. I think he enjoys that stuff just fine, but it's just not enough.

I think that in 8-10 years, Ed will be looking for a girl like Jade to settle down with- a gorgeous 24 year old who wants a family and is totally committed to him. I suspect that he knows this on a certain, mostly unconscious, level, and it's why he is drawn to her. She represents much of which he claims to want (in his Prince Charming persona) but he doesn't really want it right now.

Earlier today I read the excellent posts about Jade and her esteem issues (and welcome to our newest poster [MENTION=37936]tanique[/MENTION]) and applauded. If I could sit Jade down right now, I would want to convince her that none of this is about her or a reflection of her worth. So often the narrative in society is that a man will change for the love of a good woman. The corollary to that then tends to be that if he's not willing to change, then there's something wrong with the woman. Jade has internalized that message and, because it fits so well with her lack of worth due to her educational and learning issues, she assumes that if a guy doesn't/can't love her, it's HER fault. But it's really about where the guy is in his life and about HIS emotional maturity, not about her.

Early on in the house, Ed, in his Prince Charming persona, made statements about wanting that wife and family, about feeling like he would be missing out if he didn't have them. I have no doubt that it's true but I don't think he's looking for it, wanting it, or even ready for it right now, even though I think he deliberately gave the impression that he was. Unfortunately, I think Jade fell in love with the guy Ed will probably be in 10 years, not the guy he is right now. It's not her fault that it's not who he is now!
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Great post [MENTION=36695]Jane Doe[/MENTION].I wish Jade would read this.
 
[MENTION=36695]Jane Doe[/MENTION] - The only thing I'd add to your awesome post is the same thing I've been repeating from the start of the season: Her being cheated on has done a massive number on her. I think she is so hellbent on trying to find the epitome of a non-cheater that she struggled to recognise many of the things you said above. And honestly I don't think Ed would cheat. I think when he finally falls in love that'll be it. But I also don't think their lives/lifestyles/personalities mesh at all and that's blatantly obvious to anyone other that the most ardent Jaded shipper. For a woman who has such a great ability to read other people, I think the baggage that comes with being cheated on clouded her ability to read the situation as you described it.
 
I'll say now that I'm not 100% sure what went down tonight. After reading the initial stuff about that girl chasing Ed and the potential kiss thing I went to my work Chrissy party so I'm not sure if anything else eventuated after that. My gut is still telling me that something went down during the end of Jade's last trip to Melbourne, but that's not based on any developments from tonight. I think that stuff is most likely more joking around than serious. I'm getting the impression that even if Jade and Ed aren't together at the moment, they still want to at least give the impression that things aren't over (i.e. Jade suddenly liking Ed's pics again after someone scolded her about it). I find that pretty understandable given the stabs from the other HMs. Last thing they probably want are any "I told you so"s at the moment. And that's exactly why I can't take the Ed kissing comments too seriously. He's always been so image conscious. Why the hell would he go into a bar and seriously hook up with a girl after he's gone to such effort to be deliberately vague about his and Jade's status?
 
Jane Doe great post, I think you have Ed exactly right.

I don't think Ed is a bad guy, he is just a bit of a gumby.
 
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