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Jade 2013 Appreciation thread
- Thread starter Michael Nguyen
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In a small way I am happy that Ed stayed for Jade's sake. Tim has started this whole groups thing again and I think if Jade had only Mikkaya she'd go insane and probably become really miserable. She is not a nasty person, and as much as people cry about one comment made out of frustration I'm not going to think otherwise...and I think if she was trapped with just Mikkayla and her war with Tahan without Ed to bring her some happiness she'd be pretty miserable. I hate Ed and would never vote for him...but for Jade's sake I hope he's there was long as Mikk is.
psykologist
Member
I think that's unfair - Jade is an adult & responsible for her own comments & actions. If she's that easily influenced it doesn't say as much for her strength of character after all, does it?I also thought it was interesting that Tim said the other day that Jade was the leader of "that group". Maybe we're missing something. Either way - don't blame others for someone's else's mistakes (not that I think any of them are that terrible).
psykologist
Member
Actually, your comment made me think that if anyone is influencing Jade in her opinions etc. it's Ed - she worships him & seems to take everything he says as gospel. I think she'd be way better off without Ed.
marksman
Used Kombi Salesman
I wanted to comment on the surly date. No knock on jade but just a knock on how nauseating it can be to watch someone who is smitten and hangs on their every word.
That jade thought every thing Ed did so amazing made me throw up in my mouth three times.
I also feel bad because I seem to only see Jade to be the one to ever initiate intimacy or contact. Well aside from Ed asking to touch her elbow.
That jade thought every thing Ed did so amazing made me throw up in my mouth three times.
I also feel bad because I seem to only see Jade to be the one to ever initiate intimacy or contact. Well aside from Ed asking to touch her elbow.
Jane Doe
Member
How? In what way? What is Jade doing with Mikkayla that she wouldn't be doing with anyone else? If it's that she's complaining about others (and I haven't seen all that much of it from Jade even now) it's what everyone in the house is doing.
Who, exactly, could Jade hang out with that doesn't bitch and moan about others or her in particular? Not Tahan, that's Tahan's number one past time. Tim yes, because Tim's number one targets to bitch about are Ed, Mikkayla, or Jade when they aren't around. So if Jade increases her Tim time, it will be good for those moments and then he'll turn on her the second she's out of earshot. Madeline I think is okay, but Jade is already hanging with her. Boog and Drew talk crap constantly about Jade.
While I think Mikkayla can be pretty negative, it's not like the people in the house are shining examples of positivity and joy. What's more, Mikkayla, at least at this time, seems to have some loyalty to Jade and Jade needs that if she is to avoid being repeatedly nominated. I also think it's a credit to Jade that she doesn't turn on people simply because house sentiments have swayed. She remains as loyal as possible until she is shown that the loyalty is not returned.
I think she'd be way better off without Ed too, but the way the dynamics are working at the moment if she didn't have Ed she'd only have Mikkayla and I don't think that would be any better for her. I don't even think Jade herself hates Tahan that much to be honest but she's obviously taken on the hurt and anger that Mikkayla and the sisters have because of her.
I'm not blaming Mikk. I love her she's one of my favs...however I hate the dynamics of the house at the moment and either way they're going to stay isolated.
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Sweet_Geek
Guest
I disagree that Tim started the group thing again. Ed has been pushing for a difference through his never ending hunt on Tim. He creates that division trying to turn everyone on Tim. He used to say how jade and mikk were naive for following everything Tim does
You know what I also find funny? Mikkayla saying how close they are, not realising that apart from last week Ed nominated her every single week haha.
I think that because Ed perceives Tim as his rival, it's put Jade in a position where she's not as close to Tim as she was. I want Ed to leave leave leave!!
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Sweet_Geek
Guest
That's right. Ed has nominated her over and over again. Now she is on side with him (and so continues their belief he is Prince Charming-gag!), he is ok with mikk. She is just there for the convenience of voting against Tim, that's how he sees her. It's working though, she nominated Tim last week. Even though Tim was a douche in pursuing jade, he still was a good friend to her. I'd say he cares for jades feelings a lot more than ed cares. I don't like ed and that's not going to change. Him and his tim obsession and his trying to grab at any alliance he can can go home.
I don't know if I agree with this entirely. I think Ed and Tim are both as bad as each other in this regard. Before there was even a noticeable shift Tim was running between both "groups" and and highlighting it. He said it to Jade and then ran and said the same thing to Drew and Tahan. Tim likes the one group vs. another thing. It lets him set up and predict who will nominate who. He's said so as much. Ed certainly does it because he wants to bring Tim down but Tim does it as well ... The only difference being he lets others take all the blame for causing the divide when it's what he wants too .
He's very clever. Love him to bits. Will be filthy is he doesn't win.
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Sweet_Geek
Guest
I can see where you are coming from, Tim has played them all In this regard, it's his way of playing for himself and only himself. But they know this, so I don't get how they are fooled time and time again. It's almost laughable! I guess I see the difference in that Tim doesn't target a specific person creating a division. Whereas ed targets just Tim so anyone associated with Tim is on the other side. Tim causes conflict but no notable divide, with ed there is a notable divide because its either follow Tim who is bad or him who is good. He is trying to do this with the public too constantly saying he will fight for the good and blah
Drade 2013
New Member
I haven't seen a lot of those.
Drade 2013
New Member
Same I will only vote for my favourite, it's too risky especially at this stage of the game. And if she is not up I would rather just save my money for next time.
Dystopia
Flying so high..
I was very disappointed that Ed didn't get evicted and my first thought was, holy cow, not another week of JadEd, I don't think I'll survive it.
But I hadn't looked at the whole picture the way you have and you do make sense. That last bit sums up your insight nicely.
PS: I find it quite difficult to keep up with what's actually going on at times as I rely mainly on the TV broadcasts. Does Mikk have one of those asinine superpowers again which will screw up everyone's game but her own? Please say NO!
See although I don't think Tim is causing the divide, he certainly goes out of his way to maintain it. He did it earlier in the show when there was the big split, and he's doing it again now. He runs to one group, has fun and laughs about the other group, then runs to the other group and does the same. It's his way of making each group think that he's one of them while turning them on one another instead of him. It was like last night when he went into the gold bedroom and said "they are making pizzas", (not "we are making pizzas" - "they are making pizzas"), and when Jade expressed her concern because they were on staples, Tim said something along the lines of "yeah, I'll be back". Jade then rightfully predicted that he'd run to the "other side" and bitch about them, and 2 seconds later that's exactly what he's doing.
He loves groups. He's not really on either side, he's simultaneously trying to bring down Ed and Drew. He doesn't have to worry about nominating Tahan because he knows Mikkayla and Jade will do that for him.
Drade 2013
New Member
Yes they are as bad as each other. And I agree, this has been Tim's strategy since week 2. He likes that there is this us v them scenario. Although I don't really think Drew, Tahan and Tim are really a proper group, they are out to get each other. Jade was right in saying that there is no trust between them. I think Drew actually hates Tahan, I don't think he appreciate her saying that she wishes Tully would just leave already few weeks ago. I know he just laughed about it, just like the time he just laugh when Nathan bagged Tully, deep down he wasn't happy about those comments.
She certainly does. I think she gets to listen to two of them nominate.
P.s. I got rid of my Justyyn avatar...I've given up hope that we will ever see that brilliant wooly mammoth again
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Sweet_Geek
Guest
Point taken. That's a thorough assessment of him maintaining the divide. You're right he does use the right wording and ensures that he knows who will vote for certain hm's to keep him safe or at least have him up there with a weak link. Good observations Gemini
Dystopia
Flying so high..
Oh no, another bad BB experience for me today.She certainly does. I think she gets to listen to two of them nominate.
P.s. I got rid of my Justyyn avatar...I've given up hope that we will ever see that brilliant wooly mammoth again
I did notice the disappearance of the mighty Justynn which, TBH made my heart skip a beat, but women are misterious creatures who, in my experience, never do anything without having contemplated and planned and considered all possible angles before they act. (Except when they hurriedly jump into Dad's SUV without adjusting either the seat nor the mirrors and start texting even before they've fastened their seatbelt, think this is what multi-tasking is all about, run over the cat and the Postie and blame it all on that damn tree near the driveway...)
Anyway, if I may say so, your new av becomes you, gorgeous, elegant hairdo, ravishing frock and are those angel's wings at the back or have I at this early hour already retired into the world of dreams?
