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Jade 2013 Appreciation thread

Gemini said:
Yeah, I certainly don't think he was intentionally trying to hurt Jade or Drew or humiliate them. It was obvious he was putting all the onus on Ed and Tully regardless of whether that's the way it all went down or not. However even though he obviously wasn't criticising Jade, it's still pretty humiliating for her for Tim to say point blank that she was "dumped", especially when she's already copped so much hate for being obsessed, etc. regardless of whether that was true or not. No doubt Tully and Ed will be shitty but I think Tim would be aware of that and it was most likely intended lol.



I guess we'll get an idea of how she feels about it if/when she responds to the video :)
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I understand your point - but he didn't say that. He said, Prince Charming gave her the flick, and said it in such a quick and offhand way that I was surprised. It sounded to me simply a line in his story, so nowhere near as bad as I was expecting.

Of course that doesn't negate the fact that, yet again, he has intentionally done something with the very real potential to humiliate Jade (depending on whether he admitted it and discussed it with her before he posted it).

To me, he may be a 'caring little bear' (as Jade called him) but he is also a selfish, insensitive, narcissistic jerk. You just don't know which Tim he will be at any given moment.
 
smurfette said:
I understand your point - but he didn't say that. He said, Prince Charming gave her the flick, and said it in such a quick and offhand way that I was surprised. It sounded to me simply a line in his story, so nowhere near as bad as I was expecting.

Of course that doesn't negate the fact that, yet again, he has intentionally done something with the very real potential to humiliate Jade (depending on whether he admitted it and discussed it with her before he posted it).

To me, he may be a 'caring little bear' (as Jade called him) but he is also a selfish, insensitive, narcissistic jerk. You just don't know which Tim he will be at any given moment.
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Oh okay sorry. I only watched it once. Still though, saying "he gave her the flick" and "he dumped her" pretty much mean the same thing to me.

Like you said my feelings on this also really depend on whether Jade was informed/asked or not before it was posted. Judging by Drew's "so it was you pranking me!" though I don't think they were aware until it was posted (unless that was a pre-planned response by Drew as a way of responding to the video without actually having to respond to the content of it if that makes any sense).

If it wasn't discussed with them then I think it was a very insensitive thing for him to do to the only two people who genuinely tried to look out for him in the house. It was a nasty thing to do to Tully and Ed sure, but everyone knows they've had their issues so it's not too surprising. Jade and Drew don't deserve the way Tim exploits the feelings they've had for these people though just for a few laughs. I'm not even sure if he does do it intentionally, a lot of things he does I do think come from a place of caring, but it does still end up exploiting and humiliating them. Tim's said repeatedly that both Jade and Drew needed him in the house, but unfortunately for him I don't think he's going to realise how much he needed them as well (both for support and giving him something to work with in the game) until he's already driven them both away.
 
Gemini said:
Oh okay sorry. I only watched it once. Still though, saying "he gave her the flick" and "he dumped her" pretty much mean the same thing to me.

Like you said my feelings on this also really depend on whether Jade was informed/asked or not before it was posted. Judging by Drew's "so it was you pranking me!" though I don't think they were aware until it was posted (unless that was a pre-planned response by Drew as a way of responding to the video without actually having to respond to the content of it if that makes any sense).

If it wasn't discussed with them then I think it was a very insensitive thing for him to do to the only two people who genuinely tried to look out for him in the house. It was a nasty thing to do to Tully and Ed sure, but everyone knows they've had their issues so it's not too surprising. Jade and Drew don't deserve the way Tim exploits the feelings they've had for these people though just for a few laughs. I'm not even sure if he does do it intentionally, a lot of things he does I do think come from a place of caring, but it does still end up exploiting and humiliating them. Tim's said repeatedly that both Jade and Drew needed him in the house, but unfortunately for him I don't think he's going to realise how much he needed them as well (both for support and giving him something to work with in the game) until he's already driven them both away.
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Agree completely - he's someone that I could never trust as a friend because he doesn't seem to recognise the thoughts or feelings of others
 
I agree with everything that has been said. It's like he is still doing what he did in the house drawing attention to something that is none of his business. I don't think he'll catching up with Ed for that beer too soon.
 
Bored speculation time...

The timing of all this is kind of interesting.

Jade's interactions with Ed on SM have remained constant and in line with the way she interacts with other HMs (she has even liked one of Jazz's pics). Ed has never been as supportive on SM towards the other HMs as Jade is, and while Ed had at times been a bit hit and miss with acknowledging Jade herself on SM, and then going full on and liking everything she posted, he completely shut down acknowledgement of her existence right about the time that rumours of his new gewl began (if he is the type of person to cut a friend for a new partner, then my already low opinion of him sinks even lower - no pun intended :cool:)

I think it was on Thursday that the fact that Ed was treating Jade like she didn't exist was discussed here (we know the Lowers read here - Nick follows this site on twitter too). Also, on Thursday evening Tim out of the blue tells Ed that he misses him. Ed doesn't trust Tim at all. Ed knows Jade and Tim are close. Too many things all at once - Thursday night is the night that Ed can't sleep because he is overthinking things. What was he overthinking...does Tim's tweet have anything to do with way he has been treating Jade? Acknowledge Jade to keep fans happy and help his image vs piss off the girl friend? Wonder what Tim wants - he does nothing without a plan?

After a sleepless night Ed starts favouriting and liking (as did Nick today with Jade's congrats tweet to him the other day), and replies to Tim's tweet.

Today, Tim unleashes his video which isn't complimentary to Ed. I really want to know if they did catch up on Friday night or not. From ed's photos of that night it doesn't seem so, but who knows...and if they did, did that affect the way the video was done?

(Will Ed's head really explode like in his instagram photo??)
 
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Wow it seems a lot has happened here today. Good to see but I'm not liking what Tim has done, although I haven't seen this so called video yet but it doesn't sound too good for Jade hopefully she is all good about it.


I'm starting to really hate the troll. I wish he would get a life and leave people alone.
 
smurfette said:
Bored speculation time...

The timing of all this is kind of interesting.

Jade's interactions with Ed on SM have remained constant and in line with the way she interacts with other HMs (she has even liked one of Jazz's pics). Ed has never been as supportive on SM towards the other HMs as Jade is, and while Ed had at times been a bit hit and miss with acknowledging Jade herself on SM, and then going full on and liking everything she posted, he completely shut down acknowledgement of her existence right about the time that rumours of his new gewl began (if he is the type of person to cut a friend for a new partner, then my already low opinion of him sinks even lower - no pun intended :cool:)

I think it was on Thursday that the fact that Ed was treating Jade like she didn't exist was discussed here (we know the Lowers read here - Nick follows this site on twitter too). Also, on Thursday evening Tim out of the blue tells Ed that he misses him. Ed doesn't trust Tim at all. Ed knows Jade and Tim are close. Too many things all at once - Thursday night is the night that Ed can't sleep because he is overthinking things. What was he overthinking...does Tim's tweet have anything to do with way he has been treating Jade? Acknowledge Jade to keep fans happy and help his image vs piss off the girl friend? Wonder what Tim wants - he does nothing without a plan?

After a sleepless night Ed starts favouriting and liking (as did Nick today with Jade's congrats tweet to him the other day), and replies to Tim's tweet.

Today, Tim unleashes his video which isn't complimentary to Ed. I really want to know if they did catch up on Friday night or not. From ed's photos of that night it doesn't seem so, but who knows...and if they did, did that affect the way the video was done?
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Great bit of speculating! Ed was very unsettled Thursday night, Friday he seemed to be clicking 'like' on all things Jade, maybe Tim had rattled his cage! lol
 
That's some good speculation [MENTION=32134]smurfette[/MENTION]. At the time when Tim tweeted Ed my first reaction was "okay, what the hell are you up to? lol"
 
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Not surprised really. Kind of has me wondering though why he'd potentially ruin the trust of people who genuinely support him for a few cheap laughs, and lets face it, a lame phone prank.
He must only want friendships involving people not sharing their thoughts with him or trusting him. I can't figure that out.
Considering he'd be surrounded by sycophantic 'fans' kissing his butt because he won BB I'd have thought he'd want to keep around him genuine people.
Strange to me. l like him as a personality , but no way would I trust him as a friend.
 
Tim bores me to absolute tears. He rarely amused me, and so often came off like a spoiled brat. This falls in line with that. Let's drag our season't drama out for an extra 2 minutes. The truth is, had he done this a month ago, perhaps it would have have been news. Everyone knew the status on the relationships, so what exactly is the point? I hope Jade at least had a heads up. I hope Tim finds something constructive to do soon, because these little things are just silly and pointless.
 
From Tim's FB -

Azurra Skye
Tim,have u told Jade & Drew bout yr prank? I think u shld and video/record their response! Come-on,be a good boy now! Lol
Like · · about an hour ago near Melbourne




Tim Dormer I've spoken to drew but no word from jade. I suspect I'm in big trouble.
 
Yep, still not amusing. Sorry, the fact that anyone trusts him might be the most troubling part. And calling him a friend is a joke. Some people have to learn the hard way who they can and can't trust. It's all a tired game to him. He doesn't care about feelings, if he deems something entertaining. Although, how old is he? And how does he find this entertaining? Is he pandering to 12 year olds? Objectively speaking, still trying to find the funny.

Perhaps Nathan will have a nice talk with Jade about those she trusts. Hmm.

Thanks for bringing that over [MENTION=32134]smurfette[/MENTION] confirms what I figured, he couldn't care less about any ramifications.
 
smurfette said:
From Tim's FB -

Azurra Skye
Tim,have u told Jade & Drew bout yr prank? I think u shld and video/record their response! Come-on,be a good boy now! Lol
Like · · about an hour ago near Melbourne




Tim Dormer I've spoken to drew but no word from jade. I suspect I'm in big trouble.
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Is understandable because he didn´t respect her decision, but I´m not gonna lie, I would like to see Jade showing some guts when we´re talking about Ed. Tim screwed up, but Ed did it too and she never reacted in that way.
 
claudiamrv19 said:
Is understandable because he didn´t respect her decision, but I´m not gonna lie, I would like to see Jade showing some guts when we´re talking about Ed. Tim screwed up, but Ed did it too and she never reacted in that way.
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But really, how do you know that? We don't know what was said between them.
She hasn't reacted to Tim either.
This just Tim saying he'll probably be in trouble to prolong the attention on himself. Not based on anything Jade has said or done.
 
claudiamrv19 said:
Is understandable because he didn´t respect her decision, but I´m not gonna lie, I would like to see Jade showing some guts when we´re talking about Ed. Tim screwed up, but Ed did it too and she never reacted in that way.
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Yes, I'm curious too. What had Ed done to screw up, since leaving the house? Neither has said anything.
 
What has Ed done to screw up since leaving the house? He continued to use Jade.In my opinion he used Jade from start to finish.I admit that after the introductions to the family,i thought that Ed seemed interested and that maybe they stood a chance. However when the relationship fell apart after only six weeks outside the house ,my initial suspicions that he was using her all along and would either dump her immediately after she was evicted or once the hype died down were confirmed.Today's developments just add further weight to that argument imo.
 
hughesy17 said:
What has Ed done to screw up since leaving the house? He continued to use Jade.In my opinion he used Jade from start to finish.I admit that after the introductions to the family,i thought that Ed seemed interested and that maybe they stood a chance. However when the relationship fell apart after only six weeks outside the house ,my initial suspicions that he was using her all along and would either dump her immediately after she was evicted or once the hype died down were confirmed.Today's developments just add further weight to that argument imo.
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Ahh, okay, so pure speculation. I thought we were talking about something concrete. Got it now.
 
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