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So - if like me you have puzzled over why the vanishing plane had not a single mobile phone SOS call, should surely have been heaps of buzzing phones???
We heard what happened on 9/11 doomed planes, and others.

See here for explanations,
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...865?from=google_rss&google_editors_picks=true

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Compared to those four planes, which were travelling on low trajectories towards their targets, flight MH370 was flying extremely high. Military radar showed the Malaysian Airlines plane climbing to 45,000 feet just after turning west, before dropping to about 23,000 feet.
 
kxk said:
So - if like me you have puzzled over why the vanishing plane had not a single mobile phone SOS call, should surely have been heaps of buzzing phones???
We heard what happened on 9/11 doomed planes, and others.

See here for explanations,
http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...865?from=google_rss&google_editors_picks=true

Excerpt:
Compared to those four planes, which were travelling on low trajectories towards their targets, flight MH370 was flying extremely high. Military radar showed the Malaysian Airlines plane climbing to 45,000 feet just after turning west, before dropping to about 23,000 feet.
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To me I just assume, before anyone knew what was happening the plane was over the ocean and away from any base stations. Any flight I was on, if the pilot decided to take me somewhere else, how the fuck would I know.

To me it points to pilot suicide and trying to ensure they never find the plane to ever have proof.




Pilot was out of the cockpit. The co-pilot turns off all the transponders ect. Pilot returns, sits down. Co-pilot bashes him over the head wor stabs him. Cockpit door locked behind. Immediately changes the course. Over the ocean before the flight attendants become aware. Too late for cell phones.
 
I don't know - suicide seems such a solitary and lonely business, doesn't compute with me to take planeload of people with you.
You would have to be utterly psychotic
What a shitty thing to do - and they suspect there have been previous suicides by pilots, is that a whole new category of mental illness????
 
And this, they likely died at 45,000ft

Investigators do not know if anyone aboard the plane even tried to make a call. Passengers would have quickly become unconscious if the plane depressurized as it soared to an unusually high altitude right after the turnaround, pilots said. Whoever diverted the plane could have disabled the release of oxygen masks.

Dr. James Ho, an associate professor of medicine at Hong Kong University, said that death could come within minutes if someone were the equivalent of outdoors at 45,000 feet. But without information on the speed of depressurization, it is hard to predict the medical consequences, he said.
A table used by pilots for “time of useful consciousness” without an oxygen supplement at various altitudes shows only nine to 15 seconds at 45,000 feet, compared with five to 10 minutes at 22,000 feet.
 
There's so much about this story that just does not make sense. It's fishy.

The poor Malaysians just seem a bit in over their heads and it's sad.
 
w00t, not only does the following show that Oz has the correct policies in place in relation to dealing with economic opportunists / queue jumpers / country shoppers / welfare seekers in perpetuity (etc etc) as well as seeing less kids being washed up dead on the rocks and as well as seeing less presumed Iranian military and/or criminals and mafia type folk gaining access to our shores, but also that the ALP and Greenazis et al have been betraying Oz national interests and safety for years (and still want to) by opening the floodgates to let such hateful freeloading attempting rejects through in the first place.

see: http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ching_them_towed_back_i_actually_felt_relief/

anyhoo, perhaps now, those who have not only been told multiple times by Oz that they are not suitable candidates to be allowed to migrate here but also have been "turned back" to the safe haven of Indonesia multiple times thanks to policies That Work, will finally get the message and perhaps instead invest their lives into trying to make their own country a better place rather come here and try and turn ours into a worse place and on our coin to boot.

... or is it foolish to think that the welfare hungry ideology driven entitlement seekers will ever take no for an answer when there is even the slightest chance of living off other people's honest hardwork and undeserved or misappropriated handouts ?

regarDS
 
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I don't know - suicide seems such a solitary and lonely business, doesn't compute with me to take planeload of people with you.
You would have to be utterly psychotic
What a shitty thing to do - and they suspect there have been previous suicides by pilots, is that a whole new category of mental illness????
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A pilot did this with an airliner about 10 years ago. Again an Asian airline but I forget which. The black box in the wreckage showed that the person at the controls put the plane in a crash dive so steep it would have ripped the wings off before it hit the ground. Later it was found to be the pilot that did it. He took 100 passengers with him.
 
"W.O.W" ... Oz's BIGGEST PROTEST EVA !

Full details available from here

Emphasis in the following, mine

I was wrong to make fun of the kind-hearted and caring people at their little anti-Abbott hate rallies last week. I understand now, thanks to the ABC, that I “misrepresented the nature of the marches by focussing on offensive signs without placing these in the broader context of a peaceful rally with many inoffensive signs.”

The ABC, by contrast, carefully and extremely fairly removed any offensive signs from its March in March coverage. The ABC even managed to avoid showing a sign bearing the words “F**K TONY F**K DEMOCRACY”, which was something of an effort, considering that the sign was so large it spanned a Melbourne street and needed a dozen or so people to carry it.

I was also wrong to dismiss the March in March movement as inconsequential. This is because I hadn’t realised the rules had changed, and that last September’s election can now be overruled by some shouty people whose total number amounts to only around one-tenth of Brisbane council’s electorate.

The only proper response, obviously, is for the forces of civilisation to conduct an even larger demonstration – without the obscene signs, Socialist Alliance t-shirts and dopey chants. This will be a demonstration of solid Australian values, supporting democracy, order, good manners, application and ambition.

I propose that we hold just such a demonstration this very week. Despite minimal time for organisation, this could be the largest demonstration in Australian history. For that matter, it might turn out to be one of the largest demonstrations ever held on earth.

Forget March in March. This counter demonstration is called Work on Wednesday. Here’s how you can participate in the greatest display of collective Australian solidarity witnessed since settlement:

• This Wednesday, the 26th of March, proudly and defiantly take to the streets and go to your place of employment.

• Put in a hard day’s work, earning money for yourself and your family.

• When the demonstration is over, after perhaps eight hours or so, again take to the streets and return home.

It’s a lot to ask, I know, but your Work on Wednesday sacrifice will really send a powerful message to the ABC and others about community values, inclusiveness and diversity.


Unlike March in March, Work on Wednesday has no central authority or ridiculous committees or sub-committees to boss you around. Participants are encouraged to demonstrate as individuals, taking whatever course of action they choose to show their support for Australia.

Also unlike March in March, which closed down streets, diverted police attention and otherwise interfered with things, Work on Wednesday will actually produce substantial economic gains. With a potential 11,502,200 participants, expert financial analysis predicts a boost to the economy of several billion dollars. Work on Wednesday could well be Australia’s first grassroots activist project to produce a profit.

Of course, there are some – the elderly, the infirm and Tasmania – who will be unable or unwilling to take part in Work on Wednesday. That’s fine. Protesting isn’t for everyone, and we make no judgments against lazy, shiftless types who decide against joining the movement.

For the rest of us, Work on Wednesday will be a wonderful, history-making day of spontaneous interactive awareness-raising. From the very first nightshift workers in Sydney to Adelaide’s busy crime scene investigators and all the way across the nation to the industrious west coast, Work on Wednesday provides the opportunity for nearly everybody to show their concern for our shared future.

Work on Wednesday is committed to building a better community for all Australians, and is therefore open to every one of us. Even Greens voters are welcome, if they can find someone who’ll give them a job.

Social media is important these days, according to social media, so Work on Wednesday has its own Twitter feed where regular updates and progress reports will be posted throughout the big day. Everyone who joins in is invited to send photographs of their Work on Wednesday activities to my blog. Email me at [email protected].

Let’s show those howling misfits at March in March how to conduct a real demonstration, with a positive message, a huge attendance and a brilliant outcome. Work on Wednesday! If it succeeds, we might have to do it all over again next week.

Tim Blair
Monday, March 24, 2014 (3:50am)
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For the good of Oz, I'll be @ the "Work On Wednesday" protest.

How about you ?

regarDS
 
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Deem "I told you so" included.

from here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/...as-wrong-in-reversal-on-biofuels/#more-106015

"IPCC Admits The Scientific Consensus Was Wrong in a Stunning Reversal on Biofuels"

It just goes to show you that sometimes, consensus in science amounts to a “whole lot of nothing” as this story from Robert Mendick in The Sunday Telegraph tells us.

Growing crops to make “green” biofuel harms the environment and drives up food prices, IPCC admits in dramatic U-turn

The United Nations will officially warn that growing crops to make “green” biofuel harms the environment and drives up food prices, The Telegraph can disclose.

A leaked draft of a UN report condemns the widespread use of biofuels made from crops as a replacement for petrol and diesel. It says that biofuels, rather than combating the effects of global warming, could make them worse.

The draft report represents a dramatic about-turn for the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Its previous assessment on climate change, in 2007, was widely condemned by environmentalists for giving the green light to large-scale biofuel production. The latest report instead puts pressure on world leaders to scrap policies promoting the use of biofuel for transport.

The summary for policymakers states: “Increasing bioenergy crop cultivation poses risks to ecosystems and biodiversity.”
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regarDS
 
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Race ? Indabludivijiel !

From here: http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/03/25/breaking-news-18c-to-be-repealed/

Breaking news: 18c to be repealed
Posted on 1:59 pm, March 25, 2014 by Sinclair Davidson

The Government Party Room this morning approved reforms to the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (the Act), which will strengthen the Act’sprotections against racism, while at the same time removing provisions which unreasonably limit freedom of speech.
The legislation will repeal section 18C of the Act, as well as sections 18B, 18D, and 18E.
A new section will be inserted into the Act which will preserve the existing protection against intimidation and create a new protection from racial vilification. This will be the first time that racial vilification is proscribed in Commonwealth legislation sending a clear message that it is unacceptable in the Australian community.

Source.

Here is what we’ll be getting:

Freedom of speech (Repeal of S. 18C) Bill 2014
The Racial Discrimination Act 1975 is amended as follows:
1. Section 18C is repealed.
2. Sections 18B, 18D and 18E are also repealed.
3. The following section is inserted:

1. “ It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:
a. the act is reasonably likely:
i. to vilify another person or a group of persons; or
ii. to intimidate another person or a group of persons,
and
b. the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of that person or that group of persons.
2. For the purposes of this section:
a. vilify means to incite hatred against a person or a group of persons;
b. intimidate means to cause fear of physical harm:
1. to a person; or
2. to the property of a person; or
3. to the members of a group of persons.
3. Whether an act is reasonably likely to have the effect specified in sub-section (1)(a) is to be determined by the standards of an ordinary reasonable member of the Australian community, not by the standards of any particular group within the Australian community.
4. This section does not apply to words, sounds, images or writing spoken, broadcast, published or otherwise communicated in the course of participating in the public discussion of any political, social, cultural, religious, artistic, academic or scientific matter.”

I think the political left will be in shell-shock. In one sense this is hardly surprising – for decades they have been on the rampage with little more than a whimper of protest from the right. On the other hand, they completely ‘misunderestimated’ anger on this issue – as Nick Cater explained last week.

They underestimate how deeply Abbott and others of a classical liberal persuasion are offended by the perverse consequences of 18C.

They underestimate the chilling effect the act’s provisions have on those who hold the freedom of expression as a non-negotiable element of a liberal society.

And they underestimate the personal affront Abbott took to the prosecution of Bolt.

What remains is now largely redundant legislation as inciting violence is already a crime.
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Tis a good start but needs to go much much further ...

The only "race" we are all members of is "the human race" ...

What is more, I'm an Indabludivijiel

Aren't you, too ?


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:D

(now try and get THAT one out of your head before bedtime !)

regarDS
 
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Tis a good start but needs to go much much further ...

The only "race" we are all members of is "the human race" ...

What is more, I'm an Indabludivijiel

Aren't you, too ?


:D

(now try and get THAT one out of your head before bedtime !)

regarDS
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I remember years ago on here arguing for a universal right to freedom of speech in Australia and you were arguing against it.


Anyway the law is designed to protect vulnerable people and minorities and that is how it operates. If it was so bad and curbed free speech so much, there'd be more examples than Andrew Bolt lying about people.

Bolt lost because he didn't meet the good faith requirement. What he said easily could have been protected if he had met that requirement. But he deliberately didn't tell the truth.


Repealing the section will not lead to any changes or enhanced freedom of speech or public debate. All of that was fine. It will just make it easier for fringe lunatics to spread hatred.

Maybe the Westboro Batptists will come set up a franchise in Australia now and team up with Holocaust deniers to publish a news letter. Make sure you subscribe!


Australia's largest Holocaust denial group expressed support in Tony Abbott's initative to reduce and weaken the laws defining hate crimes, according to a Saturday report in the Australian daily the Sydney Morning Herald.
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4467899,00.html
 
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So - our southern oceans are garbage tips.

Hundreds of pieces of crap floating about down there - over 200 hundreds chunks of crap that have nothing to do with that plane for starters.
 
Oooh & wow, Heston is coming:)

Heston Blumenthal has announced plans to pack up his restaurant, the Fat Duck and temporarily relocate it to Australia for six months next year. In an expansion of the gastronome’s, shall we say, distinctive culinary brand, he will uproot the three-Michelin-starred eatery from its current location in the village of Bray, Berkshire, in February and move to Melbourne’s sprawling Crown Casino complex.

Where do we book? I want to eat fantasy food:)
 
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