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Too vague and I am not familiar with Danish law or employment but based on your scant info it would be doubtful that anyone would be forced to do anything they are morally against and this includes religious people.

According to wiki re Denmark.
No religious societies are obligated to perform marriages. It has always been legal to perform a wedding-like ceremony for same-sex couples, but the ceremony has had no legal effect.
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eliza said:
Too vague and I am not familiar with Danish law or employment but based on your scant info it would be doubtful that anyone would be forced to do anything they are morally against and this includes religious people.

According to wiki re Denmark.
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Yet, the other day you posted this: http://forum.behindbigbrother.com/s...gay-marriage&p=1476596&viewfull=1#post1476596

which I necessarily expanded upon with this: http://forum.behindbigbrother.com/s...gay-marriage&p=1476730&viewfull=1#post1476730 which includes the following direct quote:

Homosexual couples in Denmark have won the right to get married in any church they choose, even though nearly one third of the country's priests have said they will refuse to carry out the ceremonies.
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You don't think that Denmark's priests will suffer reprocussions should they refuse to carry out such ceremonies and seek to prevent their places of worship from being profaned by government decree ?

Also, if you're all for a law that prevents somebody unemployed from being forced to do something that is morally repugnant to them, you should be all for a law that protects a priest and their place of worship from being profaned by that which their religion finds to be morally repugnant, yes ?

What is more, if the unemployed shouldn't be forced to take on various kinds of employment as per roolz you quoted earlier, shouldn't it also be the case that, just as easily and simply, employers not be forced to employ or retain in their employ certain kinds of people, yes ?

regarDS
 
derspatz said:
Yet, the other day you posted this: http://forum.behindbigbrother.com/s...gay-marriage&p=1476596&viewfull=1#post1476596

which I necessarily expanded upon with this: http://forum.behindbigbrother.com/s...gay-marriage&p=1476730&viewfull=1#post1476730 which includes the following direct quote:

regarDS
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I'm not sure why you say "Yet" the article I posted was a direct cut and paste from the AdelaideNow website, I gave no opinon.

I understand if you feel it is necessary to research the cut and paste mentioned above further but I disagree that it was "necessary" for you to expand by posting more here, that was your personal choice and may or may not be of interest to others.

As for your "any church they choose" emphasis, a church is just a building a human being such as a priest or other religious person can still choose not to participate in the ceremony.
 
lolling @ our eliza doing a Gillard.

IE. Avoiding answering questions that require a commitment to a position as part of a real answer, but by doing so show precisely her bias and hypocrisy.

regarDS
 
derspatz said:
You don't think that Denmark's priests will suffer reprocussions should they refuse to carry out such ceremonies and seek to prevent their places of worship from being profaned by government decree ?

Also, if you're all for a law that prevents somebody unemployed from being forced to do something that is morally repugnant to them, you should be all for a law that protects a priest and their place of worship from being profaned by that which their religion finds to be morally repugnant, yes ?

What is more, if the unemployed shouldn't be forced to take on various kinds of employment as per roolz you quoted earlier, shouldn't it also be the case that, just as easily and simply, employers not be forced to employ or retain in their employ certain kinds of people, yes ?

regarDS
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What a shame! Priests having to do something so repugnant such as marry non-hetrosexuals yet children that had been abused by pedophile priests still have very little acknowledgement from that same church as to what happened to them. I know who I really feel for. :rolleyes:
 
oooops, I'd forgotten the "^". I'll go fix in a sec. :)

Some interesting developments in the news today about a push back against the UNs "Agenda 21" which not only is all about relieving us all of owning private property (IE, "The State" takes it and allocates it on an ever changing temp basis as it sees fit, forever) but also something that Fabian Socialist Gillard and her atheistic cult want for Oz and the world as well as something Oz has already volunteered to and your local councils already working towards.

See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/un-agenda-21-new-hampshire-ban_n_1524285.html

and: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326107

and: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=...3.6.0.7.0.0.282.532.2-2.2.0...0.0.cra3u3TMz-w

or just jump to here for an article by our shiloh's rellie: http://joannenova.com.au/2012/06/agenda-21-alabama-may-have-outfoxed-it-why-you-should-care/

Mind you, I don't expect renters and those already utterly dependent on welfare to care either way or all that much ...

regarDS
 
Labor and Julia Gillard = Hypocrisy and Hypocrite (to say the least)

From here (which includes all necessary sublinks to original news articles): http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ld_go_dig_for_dirt_but_not_mine/#commentsmore

Labor MPs are seriously being asked to dig for dirt in their opponent’s student days. That’s how low Labor has sunk under Julia Gillard:

Labor sources say Julia Gillard’s director of strategy, Nick Reece distributed a “to-do” list for gathering information on Coalition frontbenchers starting with their, quote, “younger days”, maiden speeches and ministerial record, study trips and associated travel reports, any companies they might be involved in, fundraising, pecuniary interests, down to, quote, “potential issues” such as litigation.

It was accompanied by a spreadsheet on where to get the information including newspaper opinion pieces, company searches, student newspapers and social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter.

It’s not known if the Government intended to use it or how. A member of the Government is very critical, saying it’s aimed at, quote, “looking for shit on Labor’s opponents,” deriding Mr Reece’s office as, quote, “a dirt unit,” adding activities such as this should not be associated with the Prime Minister’s office.
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So let’s look at Gillard’s reaction to questions not about her student days, but her associations and activities as a partner in a law firm in her mid 30s:

APPROACHING 8am last Monday, John Hartigan was walking into his office after a session of boxing, stairs and weights at a park in Sydney’s inner-city Glebe when his mobile phone rang. It was Julia Gillard… (who) voiced her displeasure at the publication that morning in The Australian of a column by Glenn Milne, which revived 16-year-old allegations about Gillard’s one-time relationship with former unionist Bruce Wilson…

As well as a public apology and the Milne article being taken offline, she wanted a commitment that the allegations never be repeated again in The Australian. This demand was later extended to all News Limited newspapers and their websites…

Hartigan told Gillard he would speak to Chris Mitchell, The Australian’s editor-in chief… When Mitchell rang and spoke to the Prime Minister, he said, she was “apoplectic”. He had been on the end of verbal sprays from Paul Keating, he said, but “they were nothing compared to this"…

On Sunday, after Bolt raised the Kernohan allegations on his TV show, Milne decided to file a column that argued that Gillard’s problems with the Craig Thomson credit card scandal were about to get worse as union elements demonstrated she was “implicated albeit unknowingly in a major union fraud of her own before she entered parliament”.

The unproven allegations, in political terms, are ancient, and have been rehashed numerous times by critics of Labor and Gillard over the past 16 years.
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UPDATE

Well, well, well. Guess which prize hypocrite wrote this article in The Age, in 2007, protesting against a Liberal “dirt unit”?

Who you going to call? Dirt-busters

By Julia Gillard

August 26, 2007


... Are we at the stage where parties need to research whether leading politicians got into fights at school, smoked marijuana in university or had too many drinks at the office Christmas party? Are we at the stage where what would be viewed as ordinary life for members of the public will be viewed as a crisis for politicians?

Due to the good sense of the Australian people and their acceptance — indeed, delight — that their politicians are human, I don’t think so. In Australian politics, the public have been pretty good at finding the right line between important facts about their politicians’ pasts and silly irrelevancies. Generally, revelations of scandal have been met with a good-natured shrug…

Tony Abbott has confirmed on radio that the Government is looking at the files, as he puts it, on the backgrounds of Labor candidates. And most importantly of all, veteran journalist Laurie Oakes confirmed last Sunday that the Government has been whispering about dirt on Kevin Rudd and me…

But should the public be footing the bill?

Labor says no ...
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I quite like the Sydney Morning Herald - I can only get it on the weekend but the journalists/columnists can actually string words together to make entire stories. :)
 
allican said:
I quite like the Sydney Morning Herald - I can only get it on the weekend but the journalists/columnists can actually string words together to make entire stories. :)
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Yes, and I often read it online, especially the witty reviews and columns.

I don't know why Mudcake is singling it out paricularly.
 
Hey everyone from Melbourne - did you feel the shake last night!Rather big rocked our house.
So weird these quakes - everyone comes out of their hiding place and looks puzzled
 
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