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HarleyQQ said:
..you cant just outright ban guns in USA it would probably cause a civil war.
besides all that there will always be a blackmarket, crazy people if theyre going to kill will find someway to do it.
more support in the mental health sector wouldnt go astray.


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Nobody is saying that it has to be gradual of course. In any event the government could never afford it. lol

The first step would be to get rid of semi automatic weapons that have no place among ordinary civilians, that would be a nice start.
 
CaspersMum said:
Meh...changed my mind. Peace on earth and good will and all that shit.
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I don't know how you can sleep at night with so much blood on your hands.

The disturbing obsession that you (and other nutters who seem to view fire arms as an extension of their appendages) have about your God-given right to own guns has allowed madman after madman kill and maim hundreds (if not thousands) of innocents.
 
HarleyQQ said:
..you cant just outright ban guns in USA it would probably cause a civil war.
besides all that there will always be a blackmarket, crazy people if theyre going to kill will find someway to do it.
more support in the mental health sector wouldnt go astray.


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Except that the US has more gun related homicides than any other developed country so they friggen need to do something. I agree people who want to kill will kill but if they are armed with say a knife they are going to do less damage than if they are armed with gun. You can at least try and outrun someone with a knife.

No amount of money thrown at mental health is going to cure a psychopath.
 
Connoisseur said:
get rid of semi automatic weapons that have no place among ordinary civilians
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All of that is just a matter of opinion, including your chosen idea of "ordinary".

I reckon that if we all lived by the golden rule of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" coupled with the prime 10 of the 613 or so other commandments then not only would you have nothing to worry about re: other people's choice to own and even carry knives, nail-guns, gings, katanas, ak47s, etc etc etc but also it would simply be none of your fracking business anyway ... just like it would generally be none of my business if you chose to carry nothing more than sour face and a desire to bend the entire world to your own personal will ... with provisos ButOfCourse. ;)

The chilling beauty of the wonderful gift we've all been given that is called "free will" is that we are all free to choose to do either good or evil and that even God Himself tends to be reluctant to get in the way of that, to the degree that when the person who is generally thought to be the first person ever born turned out to be a cold blooded murderer of his (somewhat necessarily) own brother, God Himself didn't prevent it.

The Plan is that while we are here on earth driving around wonderfully and fearfully designed mortal flesh (think "Avatar", as in the movie) we (generally) must be permitted to freely choose to do or not near anything our "heart" desires. Aside from the immediate consequences of choice there is also an unavoidable future "beyond flesh" consequence that goes hand in hand with Judgement by He Who Created Us In The First Place And Knows Us All Better Than We Know Ourselves.

That's when the books shall be properly balanced and it will no doubt be quite a scary time for all of us. Some more than others, especially in the cases where there can be no reprieve.

Anyhoo, to get back to the point, let's just say I respect your basic right to think, say, and want to have a world with 'no guns" or a form of firearms control that suits you. However and by the same token I am utterly entitled to think and say you are quite mistaken and misguided in your views on the topic and that any "right" you think you might have to determine and control what I might want and choose for my life, it actually ceases and becomes a "trespass against me" the moment it actually limits me.

Or, to put it more succinctly, I reckon your right to choose to punch me in the face ceases and becomes a sin against me the moment your fist touches my nose.

And I'm being generous with that, for our Creator actually reckons that merely by being unrighteously angry with your fellow man is akin to already murdering him.

Your life, your choice. My life, my choice. Deal with it ... and learn to mind your own business. :D

regarDS
 
eliza said:
Except that the US has more gun related homicides than any other developed country so they friggen need to do something. I agree people who want to kill will kill but if they are armed with say a knife they are going to do less damage than if they are armed with gun. You can at least try and outrun someone with a knife.

No amount of money thrown at mental health is going to cure a psychopath.
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America as a nation is too far gone....... Their solution to guns is to have more guns. Sounds logical and right to them.
 
Connoisseur said:
I don't know how you can sleep at night with so much blood on your hands.

The disturbing obsession that you (and other nutters who seem to view fire arms as an extension of their appendages) have about your God-given right to own guns has allowed madman after madman kill and maim hundreds (if not thousands) of innocents.
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I didn't say anything about being pro gun. Anywhere. Just another mad retarded assumption made by you. Why should I be surprised?

In my original post I said BOTH sides were using the tragedy as a way to promote their political agendas. BOTH sides. Work on your reading comprehension skills.

I am not pro gun. Not that I need to explain myself to you, fuckwit.

Have a wonderful New Year.
 
eliza said:
Why did you think it was worth mentioning?
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(as mentioned earlier but now actually have time to play :)) "Because I did."

and "why was that ?" (presuming we had gone to another round of gainsaying)

Because of this sort of thing: http://www.fathersforlife.org/divorce/chldrndiv.htm

Children and Single Moms

Whether it is caused by violence or not, children living with single moms don't do well in our society. It used to be the exception. Now it is becoming the rule and progressively worse. Is that not child abuse too?

WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT CHILDREN FROM SINGLE-MOTHER FAMILIES

Single-Mother Family - Two Parent Family - Relative Odds
Problem % (n)2 % (n)2
Hyperactivity 15.6 (69,480) - 9.6 (221,573) - 1.74
Conduct disorder 17.2 (73,659) - 8.1 (180,786) 2.36
Emotional disorder 15.0 (67,205) - 7.5 (173,714) 2.18
One or more behaviour problems 31.7 (137,460) - 18.7 (418,894) - 2.02
Repeated a grade 3 11.2 (36,288) - 4.7 (78,026) - 2.56
Current school problems 3 5.8 (18,862) - 2.7 (46,120) - 2.22
Social impairment 6.1 (25,105) - 2.5 (51,344) - 2.53
One or more total problems 3 40.6 (128,895) - 23.6 (381,715) - 2.21

Children from single-mother families are 2.21 times (221%) as likely to have one or more total problems than those from two-parent families, twice as likely to have an emotional disorder, etc. (The probability of this being due to chance is smaller than 1 in 1,000)
Weighted projections to reflect national population of children.

Data for items so annotated apply for 6- to 11-year-olds only. All other data in the table apply to 4- to 11-year olds.

[Source: GROWING UP IN CANADA, National Longitudinal Survey of Children and Youth (Human Resources Development Canada, Statistics Canada, Catalogue no. 89-550-MPE, no.1, November 1996, p. 91) Available from StatCan. It is only available in hard copy. $25 +GST)]

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63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes.

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.

80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes.

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.

70% of juveniles in state operated institutions come from fatherless homes

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home.


What does this mean? Children from fatherless homes are:

4.6 times more likely to commit suicide,
6.6 times to become teenaged mothers (if they are girls, of course),
24.3 times more likely to run away,
15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders,
6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions,
10.8 times more likely to commit rape,
6.6 times more likely to drop out of school,
15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenager.
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Oh, and some folk here might be interested in the following sublink from the above linked site:
http://www.fathersforlife.org/Table_contents_gj.htm#Gay_Issues which sublinks to info like this: http://fathersforlife.org/dale/child1.html and this: http://fathersforlife.org/dale/preventi.html

... who knows what I do know is that I have an open mind.
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Which means you are willing to admit and accept that the kid's problem may well be a case of possession by an unclean spirit, the kind that our Creator cast/commanded out of people when He came to live among us for a time as the man more commonly known of as "Jesus of Nazereth" ?

That the problem may well be more spiritual than psychological ?

regarDS
 
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I am not disputing that in an ideal world it would be great for children to have a great mum and a great dad however that is not always going to be how it ends up. So therefore having just a great mum OR a great dad is pretty damn good too.

There is so much more to why people end up in trouble than just who is parenting them. I have worked in Corrections for nearly 20 years now and there are just as many prisoners with a mum and a dad as there are prisoners with an absent parent. Breaking the cycle of poverty and lack of education is the key.
 
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Mud Cake said:
America as a nation is too far gone....... Their solution to guns is to have more guns. Sounds logical and right to them.
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Nuke 'em from space. It's the only way to be sure...

Oh sorry, that's for aliens, not US-ians, though hang on, is there that much of a difference anymore....?
 
But we don't have to, they are swallowing their own - we just have to stand back and pity them if they don't get out.

And Eliza, Ders is pulling stats from nowhere - well women hating bullshit batshit - I mean he actually believes the crap he reads on the web from anywhere.
Just remember he's a born again and can't be reasoned with as he's done so much bad shit he's terrified of hell and brimstone and all that.

And re that nurse:
Jacintha Saldanha made two attempts to kill herself last winter
The nurse took an overdose during visit to India
She survived but tried to jump from a building nine days later

On January 8 this year, she is believed to have attempted suicide again and was treated at Father Muller Medical College Hospital for head injuries suffered in a ‘fall’.

She was kept in intensive care for several days and then admitted to the psychiatric ward of the hospital, where she was treated for depression.

She was discharged three days later and given a nine-month course of anti-depressants. Her family was warned there was a risk that she may attempt suicide again.


.................Radio prank is still stupid.........mindless, and guilty of the modern malaise of not thinking at all of the consequences of you actions.
But jumping of buildings is pretty severe stuff, and she seems to have been neglected in general.
 
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eliza said:
As long as it matches with his opinions, if it doesn't he keeps googling. :D
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and in other news, "I wish they all could be double barrel guns ..."

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(of all the things to wake up thinkin of after a nanna nap, eh ? lol. surprised it has taken this long for that to be linked in, too)

regarDS
 
And in India, this is evolving into a major culture change for women in India - long overdue.....as a young woman on the TV just said, new world in India, young educated population - and the bullshit women have been handed for centuries is no longer to be tolerated.

Go women of India!

Protesters in India's capital have held a candlelight vigil Saturday for a 23-year-old female student who was gang raped.

Earlier in the day, thousands marched in New Delhi shouting "we want justice" as police struggled to control the crowd, using tear gas and water cannon. Demonstrators demanded the death penalty for the six men arrested by the police.

The woman was attacked last Sunday after she and a male friend were given a ride on a chartered bus in New Delhi.

Officials say a group of men raped her and beat both of the victims with an iron rod, later stripping them and dumping them on the road. The woman remains hospitalized with severe injuries.

Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde said the government would examine this demand expeditiously and announced an official inquiry into last Sunday's rape attack and to suggest measures to improve safety and security of women.

More than 600 cases of rape have been reported in New Delhi so far this year, one of the highest rates in the country.
 
...cut their dicks off... that would be worse than death for them... the dirty pigs... what disgusting individuals... cheers.
 
OMG, I had tried to avoid hearing the grim details - and now, with the reports of her death after being flown to Singapore - watching the news this morning some details were flung out, and now are giving me awake nightmares....
What the hell do you do with those animals?
It is beyond anything I can put into words ..............
 
Paedophilia and Rape should (in the eyes of the courts) be considered up there with Murder, both crimes kill off the person the victim used to be.
 
...sometimes I come across news stories that quite frankly make me pee myself laughing... I've only just discovered this but it apparently happened around June this year... here is the video with captions... no need to guess what it is... the title of the video gives it away...



[video=youtube;5HqA0hDkL_8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HqA0hDkL_8[/video]



...here is a news report on the broadcast...


http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/journ...-sex-aid-to-a-mushroom-1.1324000#.UOAEUnfp58E


...the poor dear... she had no inkling of what it was whatsoever... she reports at one stage...

"...even the village elder, who is above 80 years old, has not seen such a plant before."...

...it amazes me that even the men around her at the scene had no idea what it was... probably explains why there are so many Chinese people over there... God bless her innocence... here is what the report says... cheers.



Journalist screws up report by likening male sex aid to a mushroom


June 21 2012 at 09:00am


LONDON: A young Chinese reporter is mortified after mistaking a sex aid for a rare mushroom in a TV report.

Villagers from Liucunbu, a rural community outside the western Chinese city of Xi’an, discovered the sex toy while drilling a new well shaft.

Confused about what they had found, they alerted the local news station, Xi’an TV station, which immediately sent a young reporter, Yunfeng Ye, to the scene.

Arriving at the village, Yunfeng then did an in-depth piece about the unidentified “meaty” mushroom, including numerous close-ups.

Describing the “mushroom”, Yunfeng commented: “We can see there is something like a mouth; and on the other side there is a hole that connects all the way through to the other end. It is very smooth. It feels very much like meat.”

She claimed it was a rare medicinal Taisui mushroom, which needs very specific conditions to grow in.

However, following the broadcast, viewers phoned the TV station to say the mystery “mushroom” was actually a sex toy for men. When users watched the video online, many were mystified as to how the mistake was made.

One user wrote: “How do you not know the difference between silicone and an organic fungus?”

Another said: “That does not look anything like a mushroom – do these people not do their research?”

The day after the programme aired, the news station posted an apology on Sina Weibo, a Chinese blogging website.

“Our programme last night made everyone laugh,” the apology said, expressing regret for an “uncomfortable and misleading” report.

“Our reporter is very young and sheltered.” – Daily Mail
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