Housemate #5 TULLY!

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[MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] why do you think BB should break Drully up? What Tully and Drew do doesn't hurt anyone in the house.
 
Mortgages covered? Per diems historically have been $100/day.

I don't think there's much recourse re: ridicule/loss of reputation given they put themselves up for it.

Workcover? Maybe if they can show they are unable to work as a result of the stress. Obviously if Tully or any of the HMs self-harm and they get a campaign going there might be something in the way of compensation... but only due to public outcry.
 
BBfan- said:
[MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] why do you think BB should break Drully up? What Tully and Drew do doesn't hurt anyone in the house.
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Why do you think Ed and Matt were going to do it? Why is almost every house mate despising them?
 
chads said:
I'm not an American. Even if it's a gameshow competition it's a workplace or competitionplace. You can compare this to athletes. Technically they are "competing" but they are still working for their employer in a chosen workplace.
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They're not working for anybody. They're there to win the prize money on offer like someone on Hot Seat and other game shows.
 
Yve said:
Chads, the perspective that big brother is enabling tully's behaviour is a cop out. The format of big brother is well known and Tully didn't go into the show as a naive innocent, if anything she may have more knowledge considering her line of work. Her actions have been her own and Drew's in regards to the cheating, and the responsibility lies with them, not with big brother or any other third party.
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Yes, Tully is probably more clued on than anyone else in the house, you'd think someone in her position would know better.

And I agree, both Drew and Tully are 100% responsible for their own actions.

The worst thing about this situation is how UTTERLY EMBARRASSING it must feel for her (ex)girlfriend. I hope she has a lot of supportive (and mildly violent) friends around her, because something like this would be hard to escape, ESPECIALLY with the general public having DAILY ACCESS to your DIRTY LAUNDRY.
 
[MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] Yes the BB house would be a 'workplace' and as such have a duty of care to the HMs. However I don't think this duty of care would extend to preventing them from screwing up their lives, more so it's about not putting them in dangerous situations and providing adequate care.
 
MADONNA said:
I hope she has a lot of supportive (and mildly violent) friends around her, because something like this would be hard to escape, ESPECIALLY with the general public having DAILY ACCESS to your DIRTY LAUNDRY.
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Holy shit the Newtown Diesel Dykes will kill her. I hadn't thought of that. Fuck.
 
chads said:
After she leaves the house she is most likely facing a big fallout. The employer is knowingly enabling her destructive behavior in their property and work environment. You can't argue with that!
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Yes she will be facing a huge fallout, and it was her destructive behaviour that caused it. Just like in the real world where people face consequences, she does too. Just like in the real world when people enter affairs in the workplace, people all around them will be discussing what happens. The fallout outside of the workforce has nothing to do with the workforce itself.

Bb is not there to tell her how to behave. It's like some forum users who are disgusted with jades infatuation with ed. bb won't stop her from behaving that way, just like Tim instigating fights within the home that sees hm's being evicted, bb can't stop him. Bb can't favour hms behaviour whilst stopping another. You are mixing real life with a tv show. Her actions are that of her own and bb is there to show us what happens in the house, which btw bb has limited the audience to this anyways. Unless there is actual danger to someone in the house, it has nothing to do with bb in regards to what happens on the outside

Also, they all entered the bb home knowing that fans of the show will either like you or not like you. Either think you are boring or entertaining. Tully isn't liked for her actions and the fact is, she is not the only contestant to never be liked. To ask people not to judge her or expect her not to have some kind of backlash is ridiculous when you enter a show where people are voting for your personality traits. I have made my argument
 
Can't believe people are giving TeamTully shit for their post.

You've got to realise that most people who know Tully IRL are also friends with someone else... Tahlia. There comes a point where you have to realise where supporting a friend in the house ends and condoning their selfish and hurtful behaviour begins. I know this is something I've been struggling with since the start of Drully, which is why I mostly try to avoid Tully threads, because as I've said before: seeing people throw such vitriolic hate towards her is hard to see, but so is seeing people ("fans") pretend what she's doing is okay and acceptable. It's not. It's horrible, it's fucking hurting people, and it's bloody hard to watch.

TeamTully said it perfectly: when Tully is out of the house, she will be there to support her. But while she is in the house, it is almost impossible to carry on like "#TeamTully #VoteToSave!!!" because Tully should leave. The sooner she leaves that house the better, not just for her mental health but also for people on the outside too. Because yes, while TeamTully has an obligation to be a real friend for Tully, she also has an obligation to be there for Tahlia NOW. How can one present oneself as being a 'supporter' of Tully as a BB HM when there is so much pain that comes with it.
 
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Because they don't know how to mind their own business.
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And we here on the forums are minding our own business? LOL. Anyway it's no use to "break them up" anymore because the damage is done already. In other words it's too late to wipe since the poo is in the pants already.
 
[MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] Okay, we get it. You think cheating is lying and liars are bad. Please, can you have another idea now? You have been pumping this one point down our throats for days now. Try to think of another idea.
 
des moines said:
Can't believe people are giving TeamTully shit for their post.

You've got to realise that most people who know Tully IRL are also friends with someone else... Tahlia. There comes a point where you have to realise where supporting a friend in the house ends and condoning their selfish and hurtful behaviour begins. I know this is something I've been struggling with since the start of Drully, which is why I mostly try to avoid Tully threads, because as I've said before: seeing people throw such vitriolic hate towards her is hard to see, but so is seeing people ("fans") pretend what she's doing is okay and acceptable. It's not. It's horrible, it's fucking hurting people, and it's bloody hard to watch.

TeamTully said it perfectly: when Tully is out of the house, she will be there to support her. But while she is in the house, it is almost impossible to carry on like "#TeamTully #VoteToSave!!!" because Tully should leave. The sooner she leaves that house the better, not just for her mental health but also for people on the outside too. Because yes, while TeamTully has an obligation to be a real friend for Tully, she also has an obligation to be there for Tahlia NOW. How can one present oneself as being a 'supporter' of Tully as a BB HM when there is so much pain that comes with it.
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I agree with this and think her friends post did the most logic thing in this scenario. I have never agreed with this drully stuff.
 
Sweet_Geek said:
Yes she will be facing a huge fallout, and it was her destructive behaviour that caused it. Just like in the real world where people face consequences, she does too. Just like in the real world when people enter affairs in the workplace, people all around them will be discussing what happens. The fallout outside of the workforce has nothing to do with the workforce itself.

Bb is not there to tell her how to behave. It's like some forum users who are disgusted with jades infatuation with ed. bb won't stop her from behaving that way, just like Tim instigating fights within the home that sees hm's being evicted, bb can't stop him. Bb can't favour hms behaviour whilst stopping another. You are mixing real life with a tv show. Her actions are that of her own and bb is there to show us what happens in the house, which btw bb has limited the audience to this anyways. Unless there is actual danger to someone in the house, it has nothing to do with bb in regards to what happens on the outside

Also, they all entered the bb home knowing that fans of the show will either like you or not like you. Either think you are boring or entertaining. Tully isn't liked for her actions and the fact is, she is not the only contestant to never be liked. To ask people not to judge her or expect her not to have some kind of backlash is ridiculous when you enter a show where people are voting for your personality traits. I have made my argument
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In real word if the employer learns about affair in the workplace many times it will result one or both of the affair partners being fired or resigning. Why? Because when they get caught it will be impossible work environment after that.
 
chads said:
Why do you think Ed and Matt were going to do it?
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Ed and Matt were going to do squat except to beat their gums like excited chimpanzies. And who's to say its not part of Tullys or Drews game plan, what right does anyone have to interfere with their chance of winning 250k. If anyone outside the house dont like it I suggest using the off button on your TV phone or puter. Its really quite simple.
 
Consuela said:
[MENTION=36011]chads[/MENTION] Yes the BB house would be a 'workplace' and as such have a duty of care to the HMs. However I don't think this duty of care would extend to preventing them from screwing up their lives, more so it's about not putting them in dangerous situations and providing adequate care.
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Yes that's right. What HMs do in the house it is not for BB to stop it, unless it is harmful. The difference with the other BB is the reaction of the public.

HMs on BB C10 did much more than cheat on the show, but the reaction of the public was not has violent as it is now.

How can BB select HMs who only do the right thing and pleasing everyone? It is impossible

I watch BB because I want to see what they do in the house (no matter what), but it seems that some people want to dictated their own moralistic views on what the HMs should do or not do. It is becoming ridiculous. We won't have any reality left
 
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