Housemate #5 TULLY!

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In regards to Tully and Drew I really hope she leaves before him not just coz I like him pre Tully but also he wont be able to answer all the questions facing them. Shes the one who was in a relationship and I doubt he would feel comfortable confirming the cheating and discussing what has really gone on between them, we know what Tullys like when ppl talk behind her back. Perhaps they are going to pursue a relationship outside BB and that would still be her responsibility to discuss as she would need to talk with Tahlia.

I think its her place to face the public first, then when Drew leaves hopefully Tully will have cleared up what exactly is going on and he wont feel the need to hide anything.
 
Nah, it's all good! A few weeks back I definitely did think she could use the help of the house psych when she was going into fullblown meltdown and also lashing out at Drew. But I trust Goon and Alex when they say all of the HMs are being closely monitored at all times by 3 producers dedicated to solely watching for any potential psych problems as well as the BB psych. Her friends are obviously shocked by what they're watching and have said they have no clue where this behaviour is coming from but they've also said she's "emotional" for better or worse so it makes sense those traits have become amplified in the house. I do however strongly think her staying in there isn't doing her any favours because as [MENTION=34613]Tuxie[/MENTION] said, the longer she stays the worse she's making it for herself and it's just delaying what she has to inevitably face on the outside. But I don't believe she should be pulled out or the situation tampered with at all.
People who are deeply engaged in affairs behave irrationally and can do the strangest things to justify their actions to themselves. Cheaters can seem like strangers during the affair even to their spouses and families. There are many books about infidelity that explain this and I don't think Tully is an exception to the rule.
 
They are very different examples. Violence is not going to be tolerated simply because it harms another contestant. Therefore if that happened they would instantly be removed from the home. Tully and Drewb are not hurting anyone within the house and that's why there is no intervention or interference. It's like being at work, they don't care about personal problems, the team is there if they want help
You think infidelity does not harm anyone?
 
They are manipulating you every minute you watch BB. You aren't really this naive, are you?

i was referring to them actually manipulating the relationship by separating them out of sharing a bed, talking to them about the relationship outside of the normal DR conversations ...
I like to think I'm not naive but rather happy to look for good in most situations if I can :)

I also prefer NOT to try to put someone down with sarcasm - unlike some :D
 
Hi all,

I haven't posted on this forum or spent a large amount of time on here due to hateful messages about my friend Tully. However, I have popped my head in every now and then and feel something needs to be said.

I run (ran?) @tullysmythbb - the twitter for Tully that was discussed due to my tweets last night.

The reason I started this And the Facebook page was a) Tully asked me to and b) I wanted to be able to clear her name if anything was misconstrued or people or bb was making false accusations. This is what I did the first few weeks of Drully, until it become horribly obvious that I couldn't keep pretending that it was editing at fault when everyone can see the two of them attempting to hide from cameras to make out.

On top of dealing with my friend publicly embarrassing herself, I deal with hundreds of hate messages a day - some have become so personal as well.

As well as this, I am living my own life which means being involved in the lesbian scene and making sure Tahlia is okay. I am in constant contact with her, have stayed at her house and dealt with her being so heartbroken and torn up because of all this.

Of course Big Brother tells her things before they air. People need to remember that they both auditioned and both got through the first initial rounds. They know Tahlia and have a responsibility to her.

Which leads me back to last night.

Channel 9 has marketing this series as a children's show. Which is why I believe that what I know won't be shown.

Regardless of a certain act being classified as cheating or not, this hasn't seated well with me for a long time. And I know first hand that Tully does tell everyone she loves them, does call people baby, does like to cuddle in bed. In her initial online videos she asked the first date question "would you spoon me if I'm cold?"
And these aren't the issues that Tahlia is upset over.

The only reason I want those accounts now is to try and be a buffer for the online hate.

Please try and remember that there is more than one person at fault here.
The producers, the psychiatrists on the show and drew are all also equally to blame.

I love Tully. And will try my best to be there for her but as someone who has been cheated on and it was Tully who took me in, fed me and looked after me, this is all a bit much.

I owe her a lot and she is someone I consider to be an older sister and mentor which is why this is all so confusing. Something I would never do.

Please keep trying to not judge. As so many people have said on this forum, nobody is perfect.

Hopefully she is out soon and this is all over.

For everyone who has defended and supported her this whole time, thank you so much.
It is interesting that we are discussing whether this person is being a good friend to Tully. What about Tully being a good friend to her, Tahlia and their circle of friends.

Tully is a sought after media specialist. She set her friend up to be her pr outside of the house. And she is setting up her friend to deal with the hate. I am not saying she did it on purpose but imagine if your friend did that to you. Make you defend the appearance/fact of cheating when you have been cheated on yourself.

Sounds to me like she is doing the best she can to stay true to herself and Tully.
 
So true. We're an audience to a show, nothing more and nothing less. The housemates are living in a altered reality and some of the things they do, we can pick apart - but we need to sit back and take a chill pill and remember our place in this. Right or wrong, we don't actually have any say on the BB housemate's lives. Tully has some stuff to work on in herself and maybe she will, maybe she won't - actually not our business. Lots of them do, lots of us do. It's the human condition.


*This isn't coming from a Tully fan btw, until recently I still held out hope for Drade, lol. It's just about us taking a reality check as to our (audience) responsibilty with regard what's been going on and various aspects of people's personalities.

agreed :)

I'm not a Tully fan in the truest sense ... just think she offers a bit more for us to watch and ponder than people like the screechers ...
 
i was referring to them actually manipulating the relationship by separating them out of sharing a bed, talking to them about the relationship outside of the normal DR conversations ...
I like to think I'm not naive but rather happy to look for good in most situations if I can :)

I also prefer NOT to try to put someone down with sarcasm - unlike some :D
OK fair enough. But you do look like a cupcake who has eyes, rabbit ears and red nose.
 
Hi all,

I haven't posted on this forum or spent a large amount of time on here due to hateful messages about my friend Tully. However, I have popped my head in every now and then and feel something needs to be said.

I run (ran?) @tullysmythbb - the twitter for Tully that was discussed due to my tweets last night.

The reason I started this And the Facebook page was a) Tully asked me to and b) I wanted to be able to clear her name if anything was misconstrued or people or bb was making false accusations. This is what I did the first few weeks of Drully, until it become horribly obvious that I couldn't keep pretending that it was editing at fault when everyone can see the two of them attempting to hide from cameras to make out.

On top of dealing with my friend publicly embarrassing herself, I deal with hundreds of hate messages a day - some have become so personal as well.

As well as this, I am living my own life which means being involved in the lesbian scene and making sure Tahlia is okay. I am in constant contact with her, have stayed at her house and dealt with her being so heartbroken and torn up because of all this.

Of course Big Brother tells her things before they air. People need to remember that they both auditioned and both got through the first initial rounds. They know Tahlia and have a responsibility to her.

Which leads me back to last night.

Channel 9 has marketing this series as a children's show. Which is why I believe that what I know won't be shown.

Regardless of a certain act being classified as cheating or not, this hasn't seated well with me for a long time. And I know first hand that Tully does tell everyone she loves them, does call people baby, does like to cuddle in bed. In her initial online videos she asked the first date question "would you spoon me if I'm cold?"
And these aren't the issues that Tahlia is upset over.

The only reason I want those accounts now is to try and be a buffer for the online hate.

Please try and remember that there is more than one person at fault here.
The producers, the psychiatrists on the show and drew are all also equally to blame.

I love Tully. And will try my best to be there for her but as someone who has been cheated on and it was Tully who took me in, fed me and looked after me, this is all a bit much.

I owe her a lot and she is someone I consider to be an older sister and mentor which is why this is all so confusing. Something I would never do.

Please keep trying to not judge. As so many people have said on this forum, nobody is perfect.

Hopefully she is out soon and this is all over.

For everyone who has defended and supported her this whole time, thank you so much.

Wait. What!

What happened? What won't Channel 9 show? I missed something, and now I need you guys to help out!
 
Of course it is a workplace (in front of law). Soccer players play at their work. Actors drink, use drugs (lol) and act. Employers arrange parties all the time where there is alcohol available. BB could have talked with Tully and question what she's doing, separate them from sleeping in the same bed, they have lots of options but they of course chose the one which will give them the most money. Are you sure the family can "yank her from the house" even if they wanted?

Can posters please accept the ruling authority on this in Australia is the Australian Tax Office, and they have ruled it's a gameshow competition.
Otherwise the winnings would be taxed - they are tax free.
HMs have their ordinary living expenses covered, such as rent/mortgages etc.

And I believe the entire thing may have even been qualified by our courts I think in the early stages of 10s BB, ATO tried to tax a winner.

Americans posting here - your Bb is different, and your laws are different, I imagine the casting is more via acting agencies.
Americans pay tax on the win.
 
the reason I'd like to see Tully stay in the house for as long as possible is because I want to delay the inevitable car crash that awaits her - not from her friends and ex ... but from people who are sitting in judgement looking into the goldfish bowl which is BB. It really concerns me that the crowd will be hostile towards her and she'll be thrown into that immediately with no real expectation of that awaiting her ... she'll be upset about the goodbyes, then excited about the eviction interview & crown and then WHAMMO - instant hostility and hatred from the crowd? THAT worries me ... who COULD deal with that?

Fair enough, but the longer she's in there the worse it's getting. That hate page on Facebook is nearly up to 60000 likes.
 
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Of course it harms people. I meant within the bb house! Don't put words or statements in my mouth. I have never supported this drully crap
After she leaves the house she is most likely facing a big fallout. The employer is knowingly enabling her destructive behavior in their property and work environment. You can't argue with that!
 
I also agree that the onus is on Tully for her own behaviour and on Drew and Tully for the cheating. They are both grown adults who both knowingly and willingly went on big brother. This especially holds true for Tully, for she is a self-confessed big brother fan and a social media strategist who obviously knows and understands the viciousness and hype of the media and the internet. she is going to get a lot of backlash, and yes she should be protected from it, but i also don't think that she is an innocent. It also should be noted, like with other contestants, that she got her friends to weather her fan pages and even signed Thalia up to here. If i were to go on big brother i would be telling my friends and family to avoid all those types of sites knowing full well the type of negativity that can occur. Tully, however, threw them in the deep end. If they have had to put up with weeks of crap because of Tully's behaviour, she can take responsibility for her own actions and also shoulder some of the rubbish.
 
I also agree that the onus is on Tully for her own behaviour and on Drew and Tully for the cheating. They are both grown adults who both knowingly and willingly went on big brother. This especially holds true for Tully, for she is a self-confessed big brother fan and a social media strategist who obviously knows and understands the viciousness and hype of the media and the internet. she is going to get a lot of backlash, and yes she should be protected from it, but i also don't think that she is an innocent. It also should be noted, like with other contestants, that she got her friends to weather her fan pages and even signed Thalia up to here. If i were to go on big brother i would be telling my friends and family to avoid all those types of sites knowing full well the type of negativity that can occur. Tully, however, threw them in the deep end. If they have had to put up with weeks of crap because of Tully's behaviour, she can take responsibility for her own actions and also shoulder some of the rubbish.

Exactly!
 
Can posters please accept the ruling authority on this in Australia is the Australian Tax Office, and they have ruled it's a gameshow competition.
Otherwise the winnings would be taxed - they are tax free.
HMs have their ordinary living expenses covered, such as rent/mortgages etc.

And I believe the entire thing may have even been qualified by our courts I think in the early stages of 10s BB, ATO tried to tax a winner.

Americans posting here - your Bb is different, and your laws are different, I imagine the casting is more via acting agencies.
Americans pay tax on the win.
I'm not an American. Even if it's a gameshow competition it's a workplace or competitionplace. You can compare this to athletes. Technically they are "competing" but they are still working for their employer in a chosen workplace.
 
You are really hardcore pushing this agenda of yours.

Did your husband cheat on you?
I'm not gay and same sex marriage is not legal in Finland. Nice try to psychoanalyze again though! Got nothing to argue with anymore? No problem, concentrate on the person you're arguing with!
 
Chads, the perspective that big brother is enabling tully's behaviour is a cop out. The format of big brother is well known and Tully didn't go into the show as a naive innocent, if anything she may have more knowledge considering her line of work. Her actions have been her own and Drew's in regards to the cheating, and the responsibility lies with them, not with big brother or any other third party.
 
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