Housemate #5 TULLY!

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Chump said:
No. I think she definitely likes him and is clingy to him and feels a love towards him (as opposed to in love). It's holiday romance type infatuation.
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Yes, plus there's the added frisson of high drama and the alluring possibility of being a victim. I can easily imagine Tully demanding support from Tahlia once she's out, can see Tully portraying herself as the one who's been most damaged by these incontrovertible circumstances that are not in any way her own doing. The transition from villain to victim is very swift for the Tullys of the world.
 
I see Drew and Tully are no different to a drug addicted couple who support each other's unhealthy addictions

They have similar weaknesses that neither can compensate for so they empathise with one another instead

If they were in love Drew would be saying - no he can't do this - it would really negatively impact Tully and her relationship to a person she (claims) to love

and Tully would be like 'no I don't want you to get caught up in this and my drama please enjoy your time in the house'

but noooooo

they will not last on the outside
 
chiclet said:
Yes, plus there's the added frisson of high drama and the alluring possibility of being a victim. I can easily imagine Tully demanding support from Tahlia once she's out, can see Tully portraying herself as the one who's been most damaged by these incontrovertible circumstances that are not in any way her own doing. The transition from villain to victim is very swift for the Tullys of the world.
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I think Tully will always see herself as the one a bit wronged and hard done by. The one who always loves the most, who is always being attacked, who is always misunderstood, who is always dealing with emotions no one else can every understand blah blah .....and IN HER MIND its real
 
Chump said:
I think Tully will always see herself as the one a bit wronged and hard done by. The one who always loves the most, who is always being attacked, who is always misunderstood, who is always dealing with emotions no one else can every understand blah blah .....and IN HER MIND its real
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It will be because Big Brother didn't like her
 
keke said:
The breakup is part of Tully's game plan.

Where the line might be is the question. Tully has never spken badly of her girlfriend. Indeed she believes that they are still a couple.
So Tully has remained faithfull to her girlfriend.

I do take your point about the 1913 date. Certainly it should be pre Enlightment, pre Age of Reason. Is 1413 suitably medieval for you?

P.S. I suspect that you think that anybody who disagrees with you is a troll. Could that be because you are a fundamentally intolerant person?
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I don't quite follow you. Yet again. "The breakup is part of Tully's game plan" and because Tully "has never spken (sic) badly of her girlfriend" and "believes that they are still a couple" in your eyes mind you "Tully has remained faithfull (sic) to her girlfriend"? So now Tully has a game plan or does she truly believe she's not been unfaithful to Tahlia? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

Neither does your next sentence other than to display your immaturity.

As for thinking anyone who disagrees with me is a troll, you're way off base. People disagree with me daily on this forum. That's one of the main reasons I come - to have my opinions challenged and hear/read different points of view. If I wanted to just hear love for one HM or another I'd simply go visit their fan pages or sit in my own bubble at home. But I'll say it again: Even the most vocal Tully supporters on the forum are no longer saying she didn't cheat and haven't said that for awhile now (pre her friend's proclamation). They still adore her but they're willing to admit what's happened and for their own reasons accept that behaviour which is cool with me. However to be frank very little of what you post makes sense to me and to say people who have a problem with cheating are reminiscent of behaviour 100+ years ago is quite base. Cheating is not generally accepted in 2013. You cannot pretend otherwise no matter how much you want to state your favourite HM is an angel. Even her loved ones aren't doing that so it might be time to examine why you feel the need to.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
I don't quite follow you. Yet again. "The breakup is part of Tully's game plan" and because Tully "has never spken (sic) badly of her girlfriend" and "believes that they are still a couple" in your eyes mind you "Tully has remained faithfull (sic) to her girlfriend"? So now Tully has a game plan or does she truly believe she's not been unfaithful to Tahlia? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

Neither does your next sentence other than to display your immaturity.

As for thinking anyone who disagrees with me is a troll, you're way off base. People disagree with me daily on this forum. That's one of the main reasons I come - to have my opinions challenged and hear/read different points of view. If I wanted to just hear love for one HM or another I'd simply go visit their fan pages or sit in my own bubble at home. But I'll say it again: Even the most vocal Tully supporters on the forum are no longer saying she didn't cheat and haven't said that for awhile now (pre her friend's proclamation). They still adore her but they're willing to admit what's happened and for their own reasons accept that behaviour which is cool with me. However to be frank very little of what you post makes sense to me and to say people who have a problem with cheating are reminiscent of behaviour 100+ years ago is quite base. Cheating is not generally accepted in 2013. You cannot pretend otherwise no matter how much you want to state your favourite HM is an angel. Even her loved ones aren't doing that so it might be time to examine why you feel the need to.
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Sorry about the spelling. I used the Web page rather than my usual tool.

I mean that the breakup was prearranged.

Makes sense to me. Tully has remained faithful.

I'm suggesting that where you have drawn the line might be appropriate in the 15th century but not in the 21st century.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
I don't quite follow you. Yet again. "The breakup is part of Tully's game plan" and because Tully "has never spken (sic) badly of her girlfriend" and "believes that they are still a couple" in your eyes mind you "Tully has remained faithfull (sic) to her girlfriend"? So now Tully has a game plan or does she truly believe she's not been unfaithful to Tahlia? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

Neither does your next sentence other than to display your immaturity.

As for thinking anyone who disagrees with me is a troll, you're way off base. People disagree with me daily on this forum. That's one of the main reasons I come - to have my opinions challenged and hear/read different points of view. If I wanted to just hear love for one HM or another I'd simply go visit their fan pages or sit in my own bubble at home. But I'll say it again: Even the most vocal Tully supporters on the forum are no longer saying she didn't cheat and haven't said that for awhile now (pre her friend's proclamation). They still adore her but they're willing to admit what's happened and for their own reasons accept that behaviour which is cool with me. However to be frank very little of what you post makes sense to me and to say people who have a problem with cheating are reminiscent of behaviour 100+ years ago is quite base. Cheating is not generally accepted in 2013. You cannot pretend otherwise no matter how much you want to state your favourite HM is an angel. Even her loved ones aren't doing that so it might be time to examine why you feel the need to.
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Kekes post was so illogical I didn't even bother calling it out.

By her logic as long as I still refer to my husband as my husband and believe he is my husband then I am not cheating even if I do all sorts of stuff with another guy. It's laughable and clasping at straws.
 
Coppelia said:
I think the Facebook page "Lets Murder Tully from Big Brother" is a bit steep!

Why does anything have to amount to social media pages with titles like that?
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I think the Murder page was meant to be sarcastically having a go at how ridiculous people are being, on facebook, in their overreaction to Tully's behaviour.

originally there were posts on the page saying things like Tully killed JFK, etc. but as the page was reported I think all of those posts have been deleted now.
 
That's so true. I don't really care about Tully's cheating per se, it's none of my business and doesn't impact on men in anyway.

But it's her insistence that she has still a relationship with Tahlia that really rubs me up the wrong way. Delusional arseholes have that affect on me, it boggles the mind really.
 
Chump said:
Kekes post was so illogical I didn't even bother calling it out.

By her logic as long as I still refer to my husband as my husband and believe he is my husband then I am not cheating even if I do all sorts of stuff with another guy. It's laughable and clasping at straws.
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But I didn't say that. Either you or you spouse can end the relationship. And, the relationship having ended, your husband becomes your ex-husband.
 
keke said:
Sorry about the spelling. I used the Web page rather than my usual tool.

I mean that the breakup was prearranged.

Makes sense to me. Tully has remained faithful.

I'm suggesting that where you have drawn the line might be appropriate in the 15th century but not in the 21st century.
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So you think this whole thing is a master plan between Tully and Tahlia?

And if you think where I've drawn the line is appropriate for the 15th century - my only "line" being cheating is neither acceptable behaviour nor one to be encouraged - then I'd be really curious where you live and more importantly how old you are. People cheat. Some of my loved ones have cheated. Someone I know might be cheating right now. However in 2013 in Australia cheating is not considered acceptable. In fact it was more acceptable back in one of the centuries you keep ridiculously referring to as women were merely considered chattel back then with no rights at all. So I respectfully suggest you might want to get out of the time warp you seem to be stuck in because when even Tully's loved ones have acknowledged that her behaviour is wrong and have done so for weeks now, I can't understand what kind of special snowflake you think you are to proclaim any different.

Again though your last sentence contradicts your first so I revert back to my belief that you're being either deliberately provocative or innocently obtuse. Neither option makes for a great conversation on a forum.
 
Tully and Drew are not in love. You can't fall in love after 6 weeks. It won't last when they're out in the real world.
 
Connoisseur said:
That's so true. I don't really care about Tully's cheating per se, it's none of my business and doesn't impact on men in anyway.

But it's her insistence that she has still a relationship with Tahlia that really rubs me up the wrong way. Delusional arseholes have that affect on me, it boggles the mind really.
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I like Tully but the fence sitting is what bothers me most about her, I believe she does it because she is insecure
 
murf said:
Tully and Drew are not in love. You can't fall in love after 6 weeks. It won't last when they're out in the real world.
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It is quibbling over semantics, but 6 weeks is more than enough time to 'Fall In Love.' Will this be the same as a truly selfless unconditional 'Love'...? No. Probably not, but with English using Love and Fall In Love, some confusion can happen.

And you can totally fall in love in way less time than that, especially in an emotional pressure cooker. Just look at Jade. Ed can mumble ANYTHING, and she will interpret it positively. She is like Gina Marie over Nick, basically, from BBUS.

Drully look like a couple in the honeymoon phase to me.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
So you think this whole thing is a master plan between Tully and Tahlia?

And if you think where I've drawn the line is appropriate for the 15th century - my only "line" being cheating is neither acceptable behaviour nor one to be encouraged - then I'd be really curious where you live and more importantly how old you are. People cheat. Some of my loved ones have cheated. Someone I know might be cheating right now. However in 2013 in Australia cheating is not considered acceptable. In fact it was more acceptable back in one of the centuries you keep ridiculously referring to as women were merely considered chattel back then with no rights at all. So I respectfully suggest you might want to get out of the time warp you seem to be stuck in because when even Tully's loved ones have acknowledged that her behaviour is wrong and have done so for weeks now, I can't understand what kind of special snowflake you think you are to proclaim any different.

Again though your last sentence contradicts your first so I revert back to my belief that you're being either deliberately provocative or innocently obtuse. Neither option makes for a great conversation on a forum.
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Yes.

I have lived and worked in a number of countries and am older than you. One of the countries I have worked in is the KSA. And when I read your posts I am reminded of the various pronouncements of the Ulema. You 'morality' is, I suspect, based in Christian doctrine and property values - not the free association of persons.

I see no contradiction. You need to be specific.
 
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