Favourite & Least Fave HM's From Past and Present

[Connoisseur]

Was that an actual quote or just a vibe you got? I swear I would have remembered that.

No, just me. She did act very dismissively towards Drew at the beginning when they were pretending to be married, whinging about kissing some 'random' to Big Brother and acting as if doing this task with a pretty boy like Drew was this massive 'icky' imposition on her so much so that you'd have thought Drew looked like Jonah Hill.

From that point onwards I knew that Jade was nothing more than one of those uppity up herself princesses I've crossed paths many times before, to whom any bloke that didn't look like meatheads Ed and Matt might as well be invisible hence my completely disdain for the superficial vapid bimbette.

 

[Straight Edge Society]

No, just me. She did act very dismissively towards Drew at the beginning when they were pretending to be married, whinging about kissing some 'random' to Big Brother and acting as if doing this task with a pretty boy like Drew was this massive 'icky' imposition on her so much so that you'd have thought Drew looked like Jonah Hill.

From that point onwards I knew that Jade was nothing more than one of those uppity up herself princesses I've crossed paths many times before, to whom any bloke that didn't look like meatheads Ed and Matt might as well be invisible hence my completely disdain for the superficial vapid bimbette.

I am with her on that. It would be weird and uncomfortable to be forced into a situation where you have to kiss someone that you have never met. Even if they are attractive it sounds bloody unpleasant. He could have been a member of the Liberal party or a fan of Justin Bieber, uncomfortable just makes sense to me. Also, attractiveness tends to be largely subjective. I bet you could find people more attracted to Jonah Hill than Drew. Maybe you can make the case that someone who wants to be an actress could have handle it better, but its a different situation to act for a week straight with small breaks and no prepared lines.

 

[Connoisseur]

I am with her on that. It would be weird and uncomfortable to be forced into a situation where you have to kiss someone that you have never met. Even if they are attractive it sounds bloody unpleasant. He could have been a member of the Liberal party or a fan of Justin Bieber, uncomfortable just makes sense to me. Also, attractiveness tends to be largely subjective. I bet you could find people more attracted to Jonah Hill than Drew. Maybe you can make the case that someone who wants to be an actress could have handle it better, but its a different situation to act for a week straight with small breaks and no prepared lines.

IMO Jade's discomfort wasn't just about the kiss, that's just an example I brought up to illustrate my point. Jade gave the impresion that being around 'Drew' was suffocating and seriously cramping her 'style'. lol

It became blatant obvious that she couldn't wait for the charade to end so she could go and dig her claws into Matt or Ed who are the type of guys she's clearly into. And that's what ultimately bothered me about her and still does. Not to mention that she was all over Matt like a cheap suit even after he told her he was already taken. *smh*

 

[Gemini]

IMO Jade's discomfort wasn't just about the kiss, that's just an example I brought up to illustrate my point. Jade gave the impresion that being around 'Drew' was suffocating and seriously cramping her 'style'. lol

It became blatant obvious that she couldn't wait for the charade to end so she could go and dig her claws into Matt or Ed who are the type of guys she's clearly into. And that's what ultimately bothered me about her and still does. Not to mention that she was all over Matt like a cheap suit even after he told her he was already taken. *smh*

For a lot of people, if you're told you have to like someone, chances are you won't (especially people Jade's age). There's much more appeal for the "forbidden" person that you're not supposed to like if that makes any sense. It's like when one of your parents suggests you date someone and all of a sudden they lose all appeal.

Jade said herself numerous times she would have gone for Drew if it hadn't been for the task at the start so there might be something in that.

Either way everyone has their own preferences...and just because everyone here goes gah gah over Drew it doesn't mean Jade has to. Everyone has different tastes. If everyone had the same type there'd be a lot of lonely people around

 

[SomeName]

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to whom any bloke that didn't look like meatheads Ed and Matt might as well be invisible hence my completely disdain for the superficial vapid bimbette.

I agree, she likes buff dudes. Although I disagree with that being a reason for disliking someone. I look at an example of Kim Kardashian (bear with me), she likes black guys- I am not a black guy. But does that mean that Kim Kardashian is not physically appealing to me with her big boobs, round arse and fantastic face?

Well no, she is very appealing. I would totally do her and feel quite good about it. Whether or not I would have a chance based on her preferences is up for debate, but that won't stop me from trying

What I'm saying is that people can have preconceived notions about things, but unless they're complete dolts they will be able to open their eyes when confronted with something amazing.

 

[Straight Edge Society]

IMO Jade's discomfort wasn't just about the kiss, that's just an example I brought up to illustrate my point. Jade gave the impresion that being around 'Drew' was suffocating and seriously cramping her 'style'. lol

It became blatant obvious that she couldn't wait for the charade to end so she could go and dig her claws into Matt or Ed who are the type of guys she's clearly into. And that's what ultimately bothered me about her and still does. Not to mention that she was all over Matt like a cheap suit even after he told her he was already taken. *smh*

If Drew is a favourite of yours, I get it. But it would be tough to be tied to a person when you don't want to be and don't have an option act on your actual feelings. If you were stuck pretending you were with someone and there were other options you were more interested in, wouldn't it be the same? Like you are pretending to be married to Rohan and Tom Hawkins is single . Or was it how she did it? The Matt stuff was weird, I am with you on that.

For a lot of people, if you're told you have to like someone, chances are you won't (especially people Jade's age). There's much more appeal for the "forbidden" person that you're not supposed to like if that makes any sense. It's like when one of your parents suggests you date someone and all of a sudden they lose all appeal.

Jade said herself numerous times she would have gone for Drew if it hadn't been for the task at the start so there might be something in that.

Either way everyone has their own preferences...and just because everyone here goes gah gah over Drew it doesn't mean Jade has to. Everyone has different tastes. If everyone had the same type there'd be a lot of lonely people around

She sort of flip flopped. She said that and she said that because he was a lot like her ex she would never go near him in that way regardless. And in the first week she said he was not her type. But that could be written off as not knowing him yet. Its a multiple choice of answers.

 

[Connoisseur]

If Drew is a favourite of yours, I get it. But it would be tough to be tied to a person when you don't want to be and don't have an option act on your actual feelings. If you were stuck pretending you were with someone and there were other options you were more interested in, wouldn't it be the same? Like you are pretending to be married to Rohan and Tom Hawkins is single . Or was it how she did it? The Matt stuff was weird, I am with you on that.



She sort of flip flopped. She said that and she said that because he was a lot like her ex she would never go near him in that way regardless. And in the first week she said he was not her type. But that could be written off as not knowing him yet. Its a multiple choice of answers.

I guess it all comes down to a matter perception. Like I said before I got very strong haughty 'up-herself' Queen Bitch vibes from Jade whenever she interacted with Drew in the beginning. Obviously due to the task they were given she had no choice but to hang around him more than she'd liked.

But after the first couple of days in the house she eventually realised Drew was somewhat attracted to her and IMO once she got whiff of that she began to 'look down' (for want of a better word) on him . It became apparent to her that Drew wasn't a challenge and because of that Jade lost respect for him in terms of seeing him as a potential love interest. That's the personality trait in girls that irks me something fierce and why I began to have a less than positive view on Jade.

Although Jade did let Drew know she wasn't into him like he appeared to be into her, she did continue to flirt with him and give him mixed messages both verbally and physically. She might not have wanted anything serious with Drew but she still wanted him wrapped around her little finger for her own amusement and saw no problems in getting some affection from him (callously giving him blue balls in the process) whenever she was bored or not getting anywhere with the other guys who she was willing to go further with, namely Matt and Edd.

It was that dismissive, callous, thoughtless, arrogant entitled princessy attitude she displayed towards Drew that bugged me. It could've been Xavier, Rohan etc.. it made not an iota of difference as I don't really consider myself to be a 'fan' of Drew.

 

[Insomniac]

I guess it all comes down to a matter perception. Like I said before I got very strong haughty 'up-herself' Queen Bitch vibes from Jade whenever she interacted with Drew in the beginning. Obviously due to the task they were given she had no choice but to hang around him more than she'd liked.

But after the first couple of days in the house she eventually realised Drew was somewhat attracted to her and IMO once she got whiff of that she began to 'look down' (for want of a better word) on him . It became apparent to her that Drew wasn't a challenge and because of that Jade lost respect for him in terms of seeing him as a potential love interest. That's the personality trait in girls that irks me something fierce and why I began to have a less than positive view on Jade.

Although Jade did let Drew know she wasn't into him like he appeared to be into her, she did continue to flirt with him and give him mixed messages both verbally and physically. She might not have wanted anything serious with Drew but she still wanted him wrapped around her little finger for her own amusement and saw no problems in getting some affection from him (callously giving him blue balls in the process) whenever she was bored or not getting anywhere with the other guys who she was willing to go further with, namely Matt and Edd.

It was that dismissive, callous, thoughtless, arrogant entitled princessy attitude she displayed towards Drew that bugged me. It could've been Xavier, Rohan etc.. it made not an iota of difference as I don't really consider myself to be a 'fan' of Drew.

Wow, interesting.
I didn't see or interpret things that way at all.
I always find it really interesting how people see one thing and perceive it in totally different ways, almost like we're watching different shows lol.
I don't agree with you, but I can see where you get your negative feelings from based on that interpretation.

 

[SomeName]

I guess it all comes down to a matter perception. Like I said before I got very strong haughty 'up-herself' Queen Bitch vibes from Jade whenever she interacted with Drew in the beginning. Obviously due to the task they were given she had no choice but to hang around him more than she'd liked.

But after the first couple of days in the house she eventually realised Drew was somewhat attracted to her and IMO once she got whiff of that she began to 'look down' (for want of a better word) on him . It became apparent to her that Drew wasn't a challenge and because of that Jade lost respect for him in terms of seeing him as a potential love interest. That's the personality trait in girls that irks me something fierce and why I began to have a less than positive view on Jade.

Although Jade did let Drew know she wasn't into him like he appeared to be into her, she did continue to flirt with him and give him mixed messages both verbally and physically. She might not have wanted anything serious with Drew but she still wanted him wrapped around her little finger for her own amusement and saw no problems in getting some affection from him (callously giving him blue balls in the process) whenever she was bored or not getting anywhere with the other guys who she was willing to go further with, namely Matt and Edd.

It was that dismissive, callous, thoughtless, arrogant entitled princessy attitude she displayed towards Drew that bugged me. It could've been Xavier, Rohan etc.. it made not an iota of difference as I don't really consider myself to be a 'fan' of Drew.

Have to say, I agree with a lot of that. Although I don't think Jade was doing it on purpose. She's just one of those people that will use whatever they have to get attention/compliance from guys. So if a dude "gives in" then she doesn't have work too hard too keep him in line.

 

[Shackles]

I started watching the show in 2006.

Favourite:

BB06 - Perry, David, Michael, Camilla and Claire
BB07 - Rebecca, Hayley and Michelle
BB08 - Alice and Bianca
BB09 - Benjamin, Estelle, Charne, Michael, Zoe, Angie, Ray, Bradley (seriously, this season was gold...awesome housemates left and right)...
BB10 - Ben, Tim, Jade, Tully and Drew

LEAST favourite:

BB06: Ashley, Jamie, Elise, Tilli, Chris
BB07: Zoran, Emma, Bodie and Andrew
BB08: Graham, Bridgette, Travis and MOST OF THEM REALLY!
BB09: CAN'T THINK OF ANY!
BB10: Ed, Matt, Mikkayla and Jasmine

 

[Connoisseur]

Wow, interesting.
I didn't see or interpret things that way at all.
I always find it really interesting how people see one thing and perceive it in totally different ways, almost like we're watching different shows lol.
I don't agree with you, but I can see where you get your negative feelings from based on that interpretation.

Jade did come across to a lot of guys as a bit of a self absorbed Princess who is accustomed to getting guys attention as well as manipulating them (including those whom she has no romantic interest in. i.e. Drew ) to eat out of her hands.

The funny thing is that what she did to Drew her fans accused Ed of doing to her later in the show. Ed tried his best to let her down gently, making it clear that he was just interested in her on a physical level (cuddles, kisses, affection etc..) and nothing more serious without being blunt until she finally wore him down near the end of the show. But he could've been suffering from Stockholm syndrome by that stage, who knows? lol

Whereas Jade was very calculated with Drew and had no shame in stringing him long to keep him as a security blanket and other selfish self centred purposes. I'm quite taken aback that this behaviour wasn't noted by more female BB fans. Usually other women can spot this manipulating female behaviour fairly easily and are quite scathing about it too.

 

[Connoisseur]

Have to say, I agree with a lot of that. Although I don't think Jade was doing it on purpose. She's just one of those people that will use whatever they have to get attention/compliance from guys. So if a dude "gives in" then she doesn't have work too hard too keep him in line.

Perhaps. But on some level, she had to know what she was doing to Drew. Nobody can be that daft and be unaware of their manipulation. She enjoys it and gets off it (like many attractive girls do), I'm certain of it.

 

[Insomniac]

Jade did come across to a lot of guys as a bit of a self absorbed Princess who is accustomed to getting guys attention as well as manipulating them (including those whom she has no romantic interest in. i.e. Drew ) to eat out of her hands.

The funny thing is that what she did to Drew her fans accused Ed of doing to her later in the show. Ed tried his best to let her down gently, making it clear that he was just interested in her on a physical level (cuddles, kisses, affection etc..) and nothing more serious without being blunt until she finally wore him down near the end of the show. But he could've been suffering from Stockholm syndrome by that stage, who knows? lol

Whereas Jade was very calculated with Drew and had no shame in stringing him long to keep him as a security blanket and other selfish self centred purposes. I'm quite taken aback that this behaviour wasn't noted by more female BB fans. Usually other women can spot this manipulating female behaviour fairly easily and are quite scathing about it too.

See that's where I have a problem with all of this. 'What she did to Drew' - what exactly was that? They weren't a couple, they were never 'together'. She never said she wanted to be together with him. Flirtation is one thing, but they were never more than friends (even if Drew said that he wouldn't have minded more) fact is they never WERE more. She saw him as one of her closest friends. And the fact also is, when he got close to Tully the flirtation stopped between Jade and Drew as well so I don't really see where you're coming from saying she 'strung him along'. Wanting to keep him as a close friend because she liked him? Oh the shame. She never promised him more than that.

You assumptions regarding her thought process and motivations are based, I believe, on your personal experiences with what you perceive to be 'her type' rather than Jade's true character.

You want others to see your point of view regarding this issue but just tend to paint her as all black instead of giving any quarter, so I don't really see how that's any better than those you mock for seeing the good in her. In the end though, we all have our own opinions which we're entitled to so I guess I'll stop psycho-analysing the reasons behind yours now haha.

 

[Straight Edge Society]

I guess it all comes down to a matter perception. Like I said before I got very strong haughty 'up-herself' Queen Bitch vibes from Jade whenever she interacted with Drew in the beginning. Obviously due to the task they were given she had no choice but to hang around him more than she'd liked.

But after the first couple of days in the house she eventually realised Drew was somewhat attracted to her and IMO once she got whiff of that she began to 'look down' (for want of a better word) on him . It became apparent to her that Drew wasn't a challenge and because of that Jade lost respect for him in terms of seeing him as a potential love interest. That's the personality trait in girls that irks me something fierce and why I began to have a less than positive view on Jade.

Although Jade did let Drew know she wasn't into him like he appeared to be into her, she did continue to flirt with him and give him mixed messages both verbally and physically. She might not have wanted anything serious with Drew but she still wanted him wrapped around her little finger for her own amusement and saw no problems in getting some affection from him (callously giving him blue balls in the process) whenever she was bored or not getting anywhere with the other guys who she was willing to go further with, namely Matt and Edd.

It was that dismissive, callous, thoughtless, arrogant entitled princessy attitude she displayed towards Drew that bugged me. It could've been Xavier, Rohan etc.. it made not an iota of difference as I don't really consider myself to be a 'fan' of Drew.

How could you not look down on Drew after the "back scratching" thing? Granted that also lowered my opinion of Jade, but I couldn't help but see Drew as totally spineless from then on. Its not a great personality trait to carry but its the general case with most of the population. People place a higher value on things that they deem rare or difficult to attain. It would perhaps be better if people could place more value on who a person actually is and less on their rarity or challenge but sadly that is not the case.

I suppose it depends on if you think Drew had actual feelings for Jade. If he did, then the considerate thing would be not to flirt with him because that can hurt someone. But I never saw Drew as having actual feelings. He struck me as Tullyish in his desire for affection regardless of the source. Jade didn't really matter, he just needed the attention. Going back to my favourite house mate, Tim Brunero, if I had watched Kate treat Tim the way Jade treated Drew, then I would be right there with you because he had actual feelings for her. That would be just wrong. Distancing yourself from someone you are stuck in a house with 24/7 is tough and something they should not be forced to do. If Drew wanted to stop it, a lot of the onus was on him. Most of their friendship seemed to be based on flirting, which I would not consider the foundation of a good friendship.

 

[Connoisseur]

How could you not look down on Drew after the "back scratching" thing? Granted that also lowered my opinion of Jade, but I couldn't help but see Drew as totally spineless from then on. Its not a great personality trait to carry but its the general case with most of the population. People place a higher value on things that they deem rare or difficult to attain. It would perhaps be better if people could place more value on who a person actually is and less on their rarity or challenge but sadly that is not the case.

I suppose it depends on if you think Drew had actual feelings for Jade. If he did, then the considerate thing would be not to flirt with him because that can hurt someone. But I never saw Drew as having actual feelings. He struck me as Tullyish in his desire for affection regardless of the source. Jade didn't really matter, he just needed the attention. Going back to my favourite house mate, Tim Brunero, if I had watched Kate treat Tim the way Jade treated Drew, then I would be right there with you because he had actual feelings for her. That would be just wrong. Distancing yourself from someone you are stuck in a house with 24/7 is tough and something they should not be forced to do. If Drew wanted to stop it, a lot of the onus was on him. Most of their friendship seemed to be based on flirting, which I would not consider the foundation of a good friendship.

How could you not look down on Drew after the "back scratching" thing? Granted that also lowered my opinion of Jade,

What I was referring to was within the first week of the show, that 'backstabbing' incident was near the end.

What I meant was that Jade had dubiously friend zoned Drew very early on and thus had completely ruled out anything happening between them which seemed to me to be based purely on superficial reasons.

Probably 'look down' were the wrong choice of words to describe her attitude but I think it's fair to say Jade quickly deemed Drew not to be good enough for bf material or at least that's how it struck me.

 

[Connoisseur]

See that's where I have a problem with all of this. 'What she did to Drew' - what exactly was that? They weren't a couple, they were never 'together'. She never said she wanted to be together with him. Flirtation is one thing, but they were never more than friends (even if Drew said that he wouldn't have minded more) fact is they never WERE more. She saw him as one of her closest friends. And the fact also is, when he got close to Tully the flirtation stopped between Jade and Drew as well so I don't really see where you're coming from saying she 'strung him along'. Wanting to keep him as a close friend because she liked him? Oh the shame. She never promised him more than that.

You assumptions regarding her thought process and motivations are based, I believe, on your personal experiences with what you perceive to be 'her type' rather than Jade's true character.

You want others to see your point of view regarding this issue but just tend to paint her as all black instead of giving any quarter, so I don't really see how that's any better than those you mock for seeing the good in her. In the end though, we all have our own opinions which we're entitled to so I guess I'll stop psycho-analysing the reasons behind yours now haha.

You want others to see your point of view regarding this issue but just tend to paint her as all black instead of giving any quarter, so I don't really see how that's any better than those you mock for seeing the good in her. In the end though, we all have our own opinions which we're entitled to so I guess I'll stop psycho-analysing the reasons behind yours now haha.

That's fair enough. It's not that I don't see any good in her, it's just that I don't think she's deserving of the 'Mother Theresa' worship she gets from her devoted fan and it's that over the top fawning that gets to me.

To me she is no different to Tahan, Boogs etc.. in regards to the content/goodness of their character yet those 2 don't get the same level of canonization from their fans.

 

[Sweetgeek]

That's fair enough. It's not that I don't see any good in her, it's just that I don't think she's deserving of the 'Mother Theresa' worship she gets from her devoted fan and it's that over the top fawning that gets to me.

To me she is no different to Tahan, Boogs etc.. in regards to the content/goodness of their character yet those 2 don't get the same level of canonization from their fans.

Tahan fan right here, speak for yourself! Tahan can do no wrong

 

[delcan]

That's fair enough. It's not that I don't see any good in her, it's just that I don't think she's deserving of the 'Mother Theresa' worship she gets from her devoted fan and it's that over the top fawning that gets to me.

To me she is no different to Tahan, Boogs etc.. in regards to the content/goodness of their character yet those 2 don't get the same level of canonization from their fans.

With all due respects, I certainly see you as treating Tahan the same way as you are saying others treat Jade. I just hope you realise that there is clearly more Jade fans around on this board still then, for example, Tahan fans - does that mean it reflects the majority in society? No. It's just this forum, maybe take a leaf out of @Sweetgeek's book, she comments supportively on Tahan's post sand doesn't feel the need to be angry towards other HM's and she doesn't let other posters comments get to her. We all relate to HM's differently, and it's usually due to personal experience. I know I don't like Tahan because she is beautiful and confident and not afraid to tread on people's toes - I am the opposite. It's pretty obvious from all the comments that you are blaming rejection in your life on "Jade", or what Jade represents in your mind, because of your fixation on the rejection aspect that you perceive Drew received from Jade. When to most of the rest of us, we see that Jade was not Drew's type at all, which I think is pretty obvious by him pursuing a woman in a relationship above Jade from the second it was revealed they weren't married. They are both flirts, it's not a crime, but neither is worse or better than the other. They are just human

 

[delcan]

And BTW @Connoisseur, if you think Jade was being superficial re: Drew and Ed, I think the proof is in the pudding.

Drew's latest post on Instagram: 7000+ likes, almost 700 comments
Ed's latest post on Instagram: 700 likes, 11 comments

So it's pretty clear who people think is the "good looking guy". Not Ed. If I use your logic, she rejected the really good looking guy (Drew) for the average Joe (Ed)

 

[Straight Edge Society]

And BTW @Connoisseur, if you think Jade was being superficial re: Drew and Ed, I think the proof is in the pudding.

Drew's latest post on Instagram: 7000+ likes, almost 700 comments
Ed's latest post on Instagram: 700 likes, 11 comments

So it's pretty clear who people think is the "good looking guy". Not Ed. If I use your logic, she rejected the really good looking guy (Drew) for the average Joe (Ed)

Lets not go off the deep end here. I get the point you're making but Ed does not qualify as average. Best you can say is she chose a different type of hot guy. That's like saying Jade is average because Tahan got more praise for her looks.