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Defence-gate...

Tahan said:
I don't think it was bullying, but she was definitely ensuring that the boys felt guilty and bad about it.

And is that on?

My problem with it, is that she didn't stop at a simple "I didn't enjoy the situation in the pool" and left it at that.

No, she went into the whole "it's disrespectful", "you shouldn't have done that".

No Priya, maybe YOU don't enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it is categorically wrong to do so.

For example, if we were having a conversation, and something you said offended me for whatever reason. I can say "Hey Estelle, I know you weren't intentionally trying to hurt me, but what you said really offended me personally, and I didn't really like it". You go away thinking, "okay I should avoid saying stuff like that or that topic with Tahan".

Instead, I go "hey Estelle, what you said is extremely offensive, and you should never say that to anyone. It is morally wrong for you to be saying stuff like that, and you should feel bad about it".

What they did wasn't bad at all. I can understand the misinterpretation and that Priya could feel hurt by it. But ultimately, it's a problem she needs to deal with, not them.
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I totally agree with you, and also think that Priya felt caught out by David's observation that, like all of us, she has a weakness. To make things worse for her, he'd exposed that minor trait in front of the newbies, who then laughed about it.

In a personal one on one talk, Priya most likely would be more receptive to the concept that sometimes she can be be a tad diligent in justifying stuff.

However, I do accept that Dave tends to not be understand or foresee people's emotional reactions sometimes, and that didn't help Priya feel much better about it. Maybe that's why she took on the lecturing tone, with the finger-pointing and all.
 
l.a.r.a said:
No she should certainly have not said disrespectful in that context.

Disrespectable is the right word in that context.
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No. She was commenting on what they were doing as being disrespectful to her. Their actions. The fact she added "really" to the end of the sentence, shows she MEANT disrespectful. Also if she was referring to her own "feelings" as to what had happened in the past, would she not have used a term like "I feel disrespected" by their actions hence THEY in my eyes, are disrespectable?"
 
Kismet said:
No. She was commenting on what they were doing as being disrespectful to her. Their actions. The fact she added "really" to the end of the sentence, shows she MEANT disrespectful. Also if she was referring to her own "feelings" as to what had happened in the past, would she not have used a term like "I feel disrespected" by their actions hence THEY in my eyes, are disrespectable?"
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Priya wasn't referring to her feelings. She was stating her opinion on their behaviour. And that was further backed up her saying that she thought their behaviour was a reflection on them, not her. I provided you with a word for word transcript of what she said. And if you had watched the clip when she said this word that you seem to still not grasp the meaning of and it's differentiation from the word "disrespectful", you'd know that there was no emphasis on the word "really". It was said in the same tone as if I'd said "Kismet you're being deliberately obtuse, really". Or "your attempts at trying to slam Priya are failing, really."Her adding the word really, REALLY does nothing to prove the point you're trying and failing miserably to make.

I think we all get it as you've made the same points over and over. You don't think this Indian woman with her "dodgy credentials" should teach English to your children. But the funny thing is it's actually YOU who is not understanding the difference between the words disrespectable and disrespectful. If she had felt their behaviour was disrespectful then she wouldn't have said she wasn't expecting an apology. She was letting them know that she felt they had been acting like asses when they took it too far and she felt their behaviour was DISRESPECTABLE. Not DISRESPECTFUL to her. One more time: She didn't feel that by doing what they did they were DISRESPECTING her but their actions were DISRESPECTABLE. Big difference.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
Priya wasn't referring to her feelings. She was stating her opinion on their behaviour. And that was further backed up her saying that she thought their behaviour was a reflection on them, not her. I provided you with a word for word transcript of what she said. And if you had watched the clip when she said this word that you seem to still not grasp the meaning of and it's differentiation from the word "disrespectful", you'd know that there was no emphasis on the word "really". It was said in the same tone as if I'd said "Kismet you're being deliberately obtuse, really". Or "your attempts at trying to slam Priya are failing, really."Her adding the word really, REALLY does nothing to prove the point you're trying and failing miserably to make.
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You just admitted it was about THEIR behaviour. It it was referring to HER feelings, then disrespectable would have been correct. Their actions showed THEY were being disrespectful. toward her in her eyes. It was about THEIR actions and NOT her feelings about THEM personally as people in general. A PERSON can be disrespectable, an ACTION is not disrespectable. You just assisted me making my point. Thank you. My point re "really" was the fact an English teacher would use a superfluous adverb immediately after an adjective, making it grammatically like a preposition. A teacher if English, should know better.

I think we all get it as you've made the same points over and over. You don't think this Indian woman with her "dodgy credentials" should teach English to your children. But the funny thing is it's actually YOU who is not understanding the difference between the words disrespectable and disrespectful. If she had felt their behaviour was disrespectful then she wouldn't have said she wasn't expecting an apology. She was letting them know that she felt they had been acting like asses when they took it too far and she felt their behaviour was DISRESPECTABLE. Not DISRESPECTFUL to her. One more time: She didn't feel that by doing what they did they were DISRESPECTING her but their actions were DISRESPECTABLE. Big difference.
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They are not different words for a start, merely a different variant on the SAME base word, being disrespect. Their actions were disrespectful.:bang:

Also, please don't even attempt pulling the race card with me. The fact she's of Indian descent plays no part in my critique. The fact she's been touted as being "the most intelligent" not only by her fans but also by BB "grabs" when there is clearly NO real evidence to support the hype, IS the issue.
 
Kismet said:
You just admitted it was about THEIR behaviour. It it was referring to HER feelings, then disrespectable would have been correct. Their actions showed THEY were being disrespectful. toward her in her eyes. It was about THEIR actions and NOT her feelings about THEM personally as people in general. A PERSON can be disrespectable, an ACTION is not disrespectable. You just assisted me making my point. Thank you. My point re "really" was the fact an English teacher would use a superfluous adverb immediately after an adjective, making it grammatically like a preposition. A teacher if English, should know better.



They are not different words for a start, merely a different variant on the SAME base word, being disrespect. Their actions were disrespectful.:bang:

Also, please don't even attempt pulling the race card with me. The fact she's of Indian descent plays no part in my critique. The fact she's been touted as being "the most intelligent" not only by her fans but also by BB "grabs" when there is clearly NO real evidence to support the hype, IS the issue.
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Oh my gosh. I'm not sure how many different ways to explain this. YES it was about their behaviour. It was not referring to HER feelings. It was referring to her OPINION on their BEHAVIOUR. What are you not getting here?! Bloody fucking hell. They are most definitely INDEED different words. The word disrespectful refers to how you believe someone's behaviour is towards another person or yourself. The word "disrespectable" refers to whether you believe their behaviour is deserving of respect. Not if they're showing respect to you or another person/entity. I'm a bit concerned that with all of your rambling about Priya's worthiness of being an English teacher in 'Straya that you don't know the difference, to be honest.

You say it's not about her being Indian and yet you keep bringing up where she comes from and her supposedly dodgy qualifications. Here's a hint: There are many UK, European and N. American teachers in our schools who - like yourself - wouldn't even understand the difference between the word disrespectable and disrespectful let alone know the word disrespectable exists. Along with ironical. Let alone Aussie ones lol. You're trying to play smart about something yet you keep digging a deeper hole because you're way out of your depth. Seriously go read the definitions of each word - repeatedly if you have to - and then go watch the episode on Jump-In. Again, repeatedly if you have to.
 
This thread is utterly preposterous.

Priya did not do anything - nor has she ever done anything - wrong. Ever. Ever. EVER!

I won't hear of it. Very naughty and silly.

It may be time for Mr & Mrs Spank to take a short, sharp trip to Bottyland.

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Seriously, you should read back as to why I stated her usage of "disrespectable" was incorrect. Even quote me if you like and then look further than a glance at Collins or Merriam-Websters to see HOW words are used and why in sentences. I personally would not use Wiki as a source but.. I am sure it would be good enough for you.

I am not "out of my depth" here. You merely choose to assume I am without knowing anything about me. Priya on the other hand, I am making nothing more than an educated call on her alleged capacities which, as she chose to take part in a reality show, are readily available to us all. IF she's touted as being X, I expect her to live up to the touted X. She has not. Simple. *shrug*
 
Kismet said:
Seriously, you should read back as to why I stated her usage of "disrespectable" was incorrect. Even quote me if you like and then look further than a glance at Collins or Merriam-Websters to see HOW words are used and why in sentences. I personally would not use Wiki as a source but.. I am sure it would be good enough for you.

I am not "out of my depth" here. You merely choose to assume I am without knowing anything about me. Priya on the other hand, I am making nothing more than an educated call on her alleged capacities which, as she chose to take part in a reality show, are readily available to us all. IF she's touted as being X, I expect her to live up to the touted X. She has not. Simple. *shrug*
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I did read it. A few times and your point still makes zero sense. A big LOL to the attempted Wiki slam though. If you'd been here for more than a few weeks - actually no, if you'd bothered to read other threads - you would've seen that even as recently as a fortnight ago I was going on about how dodgy Wiki was and had not only changed Wiki to show I was the winner of The Block but that I was the next intruder. Yet again: Fail.

NO ONE is touting her as X. Her students are raving about her online to the point that I actually asked if one of the accounts was fake but YOU are the one who seems hard pressed to accept that someone outside of good ol' Straya could possibly have a better grasp of the English language than you do. Let alone the teachers here. I keep laughing every time I get a notification that you've replied in here because I keep waiting for you to reveal that I'm being Punked. First it's the serious lack of understanding of the words disrespectful and disrespectable but then it turns into her suitability as a teacher?! In THIS country of all places?! Fricken people on this forum alone didn't even know disrespectable was a word lol and this isn't at you misspuddingface... the comment was made many times before that. And you say it's the SAME word as disrespectful?! Beyond laughing at this point. As well as realising you're just trolling now.

If you're in Melbourne, you're more than welcome to come along to the private kinder that we paid a fortune for my son to attend this year and the public school at which my MIL teaches. Not one non Aussie teacher in sight (and the reason we're pulling him out for prep) - well that's not correct since no one in this country is a proper Aussie unless they are Aboriginal - but still, full of the most fully 'Strayan, posh teachers you can get and yet they have worse vocabularies than Priya does. If you're going to feign worry over your kids' education, you best dust out the very old and strong stench at home first.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
I did read it. A few times and your point still makes zero sense. A big LOL to the attempted Wiki slam though. If you'd been here for more than a few weeks - actually no, if you'd bothered to read other threads - you would've seen that even as recently as a fortnight ago I was going on about how dodgy Wiki was and had not only changed Wiki to show I was the winner of The Block but that I was the next intruder. Yet again: Fail.

As I said, quote the points I made and SHOW where I am wrong.

NO ONE is touting her as X. Her students are raving about her online to the point that I actually asked if one of the accounts was fake but YOU are the one who seems hard pressed to accept that someone outside of good ol' Straya could possibly have a better grasp of the English language than you do. Let alone the teachers here. I keep laughing every time I get a notification that you've replied in here because I keep waiting for you to reveal that I'm being Punked. First it's the serious lack of understanding of the words disrespectful and disrespectable but then it turns into her suitability as a teacher?! In THIS country of all places?! Fricken people on this forum alone didn't even know disrespectable was a word lol and this isn't at you misspuddingface... the comment was made many times before that. And you say it's the SAME word as disrespectful?! Beyond laughing at this point. As well as realising you're just trolling now.
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Ahh, so the part in the Hotel Challenge where she was teaching Grammar and Articulation to Aisha and Travis was NOT a tout of her alleged prowess? Also I said the root (BASE) word in this instance ,is disrespect which I stated in a previous post. The rest of the above paragraph was a superfluous rant which deserves no reply.

If you're in Melbourne, you're more than welcome to come along to the private kinder that we paid a fortune for my son to attend this year and the public school at which my MIL teaches. Not one non Aussie teacher in sight (and the reason we're pulling him out for prep) - well that's not correct since no one in this country is a proper Aussie unless they are Aboriginal - but still, full of the most fully 'Strayan, posh teachers you can get and yet they have worse vocabularies than Priya does. If you're going to feign worry over your kids' education, you best dust out the very old and strong stench at home first.
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If you had read any of my posts in their entirety, you would realise I live on the Gold Coast, QLD and my husband is a Teacher. As to my children. Again, you are clueless but thank you for denigrating this to a personal attack. Classy!
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Quote didn't work so I have no clue what you're trying to say but got the notification.

Anyway, I can only assume you've gone on to research the two words and realise that she's a better English teacher than the majority of the ones you'll get in this country. SPECIFICALLY this country which needs all the help it can get in the education department. Not knowing disrespectable or ironical are words?! Come on now.

Have a good night :)
 
Mrs Butterface said:
Quote didn't work so I have no clue what you're trying to say but got the notification.

Anyway, I can only assume you've gone on to research the two words and realise that she's a better English teacher than the majority of the ones you'll get in this country. SPECIFICALLY this country.

Have a good night :)
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Actually if you had clicked on the post to expand, you would have seen my reply.
 
Mrs Butterface said:
disrespectable is a word

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disrespectable

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/disrespectable
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It is most definitely a word. But one that is not used very often in everyday spoken English language. That is something I find with my Indian students though, they're very well spoken and have a very 'proper' vocabulary - sometimes so much so that the sentences may be technically correct but they do not flow. Example being Priya's use of the word. Technically correct but the flow made it sound like something coming out of Travis' mouth in the heat of the moment.
 
Shackles said:
Gender has nothing to do with this issue.

It'll still not be on if Priya were a man. Man aren't emotionally stronger than men as we think they are. As a man, I know I'd be very vulnerable if I were in her situation. :unsure:
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This is what gets me with the whole thing. What Priya pulled David aside for is exactly the same kind of thing she did to Lawson in the bedroom. She got up in front of everyone and started poking fun at him for being a sore loser...just like Dave and Travis started poking fun at her for being defensive. Yes, I understand the difference in the second scenario was that others joined in...however the way Priya delivered her mocking of Lawson in front of everyone there was a real potential there for others to join in. For all we know there were laughs that weren't shown.

So that leads me to wonder why it was seen as acceptable for Priya to engage in that type of behaviour but not David or Travis? Is it because it was directed at someone that people don't like in Lawson? Or is it because Priya is a woman so she's allowed to participate in that behaviour to a man but a man cannot do it back to her? Or more so, why did Priya only lecture the new boys for joining in when Marina and Cat were chanting too?

I will reiterate that I have no issue with Priya defending herself, nor did I have any issue with Lawson nominating Priya for her mocking of him. However there seems to be quite the double standard going on there. I understand the difference was that people joined in, however neither Travis nor David are responsible for the actions of Tom, Richard, Cat or Marina. Priya's taunting of Lawson in the bedroom was done in a way that encouraged people to jump in...just because they didn't (that we saw) it doesn't make David or Travis' actions any worse than Priya's to Lawson...unless of course you're of the view that women can teasingly rib men but not the other way around.
 
Priya didn't like the situation so why didn't she say something along the lines of 'enough, it's gone too far' then get out of the pool and walk away. If they continue it after she's gone, more fools them and she can then go at them.
 
Khun Khun said:
Priya didn't like the situation so why didn't she say something along the lines of 'enough, it's gone too far' then get out of the pool and walk away. If they continue it after she's gone, more fools them and she can then go at them.
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She did say that in the gym and made CERTAIN that such an UNFORTUNATE EPISODE wouldn't occur again.

UNLIKE the others who would run STRAIGHT to the DIARY ROOM for a BITCHY TEARFEST in order to gain the PUBLIC'S SYMPATHY, Priyanka chose to ELEVATE her SELF WORTH and PRIGNITY over SELF PRIMOTION.
 
Just viewed it and felt intimidated ON BEHALF OF Priya.
David has let this game and his perceived popularity go to his head. He instigated the entire situation because Priya is his BIGGEST THREAT, then played all passive aggressive... Weak as piss.
As for the 2 intruder dudes... Full of excuses.
 
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