Episode Day 18 Daily Show - 26/11/2025

Loved the melt down / rebellion
Rather wonder what happens when its reveal the were require to go through all that to succeed the task

- the evil in me want to seem someone completely loose it and walk out bye now BB lolol - surely there a fire exits
 
dasnico said:
Correct. They’ll never be able to convey the entire 24 hours into a condensed episode.

I will point out, as others have done too, that the days events were pretty accurately portrayed in prior years, including earlier seasons that had mere 30 minute daily show episodes.

The issue we have with this season in particular (also including the 7 era) is that the story producers are deliberately altering the days events to portray certain pre-determined narratives, or heavily fixate on longer stories that could be reduced to a smaller beat. The same goes in the other direction - stories that warrant longer segments are being reduced to smaller beats. Is this intentional? Maybe, maybe not. The story team is the one that guides the editor in cutting the show. Editors aren’t left to their own devices to pick and choose. Daily shows are reviewed and re-edited the morning they’re broadcast. My theory is that the team responsible for it this season is heavily influenced by their experience on shows like Married At First Sight, Love Island, Survivor, et al. They are inexperienced with this specific reality format. That, or they really think the viewing public are incapable of making their own minds up about the days events.

At the end of the day, it is possible to edit these daily shows properly. Attention is being paid to irrelevant things at times. Case in point, obnoxiously long transitions, “previously on…” segments and unwarranted selection of backing tracks. They’re overly complicating what should be relatively simple, all things considered.
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freddy said:
As a result, we, the viewers, get "cut-down" versions of "some" of the interactions that took place during the day. Editors have to "pick and choose" which interactions they show, and how much of those they show. Not only that, but they also have to put all of this in to some sort of logical order (timeline-wise) that makes sense to viewers.
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dasnico said:
I will point out, as others have done too, that the days events were pretty accurately portrayed in prior years, including earlier seasons that had mere 30 minute daily show episodes.
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@dasnico 💯

I was just looking on my Plex server, and some of the BB2013 episodes were only 17-18 minutes long (with ads removed, but with proper opening titles and voting numbers). And they still felt like they had a storyline, and a proper through-line.

You wouldn't necessarily come away from an episode feeling like you had a good idea of everything that happened that day, but you'd get a coherent story that helped you understand the Housemates and their relationships better.

This year's episodes are... 40 to 50 minutes, without ads? But they feel like the editors just dumped a bunch of clips onto the timeline and then cut bits out until it fit into the runtime.

Heck, maybe that's literally what's happening – it's got to be a lot easier to go through the logs and pull up a bunch of footage than it used to be, even in 2013. Maybe it was one of those things where the technical limitations forced them to be better storytellers. 🤔
 
Being Big Brother said:
@dasnico 💯

I was just looking on my Plex server, and some of the BB2013 episodes were only 17-18 minutes long (with ads removed, but with proper opening titles and voting numbers). And they still felt like they had a storyline, and a proper through-line.

You wouldn't necessarily come away from an episode feeling like you had a good idea of everything that happened that day, but you'd get a coherent story that helped you understand the Housemates and their relationships better.

This year's episodes are... 40 to 50 minutes, without ads? But they feel like the editors just dumped a bunch of clips onto the timeline and then cut bits out until it fit into the runtime.

Heck, maybe that's literally what's happening – it's got to be a lot easier to go through the logs and pull up a bunch of footage than it used to be, even in 2013. Maybe it was one of those things where the technical limitations forced them to be better storytellers. 🤔
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I would argue they have better technology available to edit these than back then. Traditionally, a group of loggers (the story team) are behind a computer with headphones on and can isolate any number of microphones. They watch, listen and they push a button to enter the time of day, who’s speaking, where it took place and transcribe what they’re saying. All in it’s a very demanding position. The story producer highlights the entered events for possible inclusion in the episode which in turn is pulled up by the editor.

Albeit a simple process, automation has only gotten better. I feel they’re reaching for just the storylines that fit the narrative of the powers that be rather than just sticking with the organic content the housemates were cast to create.
 
the Theorist said:
It’s the principle. They could achieve the same thing with typical Diary Room down-the-barrel style footage, like they’ve done in the past. That’s beside the fact that the whole “please save me” schtick is incredibly phoney (always has been) and shouldn’t be a thing on Big Brother anyway, starting from when they did it on Nine.

Not to mention… why now? And not when Michael, Jane and Mia were up…
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For whatever the random reason is that this weeks eviction is when they’ve decided to do a save me pop up going into each ad break
 
dasnico said:
Correct. They’ll never be able to convey the entire 24 hours into a condensed episode.

I will point out, as others have done too, that the days events were pretty accurately portrayed in prior years, including earlier seasons that had mere 30 minute daily show episodes.

The issue we have with this season in particular (also including the 7 era) is that the story producers are deliberately altering the days events to portray certain pre-determined narratives, or heavily fixate on longer stories that could be reduced to a smaller beat. The same goes in the other direction - stories that warrant longer segments are being reduced to smaller beats. Is this intentional? Maybe, maybe not. The story team is the one that guides the editor in cutting the show. Editors aren’t left to their own devices to pick and choose. Daily shows are reviewed and re-edited the morning they’re broadcast. My theory is that the team responsible for it this season is heavily influenced by their experience on shows like Married At First Sight, Love Island, Survivor, et al. They are inexperienced with this specific reality format. That, or they really think the viewing public are incapable of making their own minds up about the days events.

At the end of the day, it is possible to edit these daily shows properly. Attention is being paid to irrelevant things at times. Case in point, obnoxiously long transitions, “previously on…” segments and unwarranted selection of backing tracks. They’re overly complicating what should be relatively simple, all things considered.
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The transition of scenes of three different camera angles of a camera are starting to grate on me too lol
 
dasnico said:
I would argue they have better technology available to edit these than back then. Traditionally, a group of loggers (the story team) are behind a computer with headphones on and can isolate any number of microphones. They watch, listen and they push a button to enter the time of day, who’s speaking, where it took place and transcribe what they’re saying. All in it’s a very demanding position. The story producer highlights the entered events for possible inclusion in the episode which in turn is pulled up by the editor.
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If I were a better/ faster typist, I would love that transcription job. Heck, I'd love to become a story producer, just to try to steer them away from the showmances when better storylines are available. I realise the love mandate is probably coming down from above, but ughhhhhhh!
 
Being Big Brother said:
@dasnico 💯

I was just looking on my Plex server, and some of the BB2013 episodes were only 17-18 minutes long (with ads removed, but with proper opening titles and voting numbers). And they still felt like they had a storyline, and a proper through-line.

You wouldn't necessarily come away from an episode feeling like you had a good idea of everything that happened that day, but you'd get a coherent story that helped you understand the Housemates and their relationships better.

This year's episodes are... 40 to 50 minutes, without ads? But they feel like the editors just dumped a bunch of clips onto the timeline and then cut bits out until it fit into the runtime.

Heck, maybe that's literally what's happening – it's got to be a lot easier to go through the logs and pull up a bunch of footage than it used to be, even in 2013. Maybe it was one of those things where the technical limitations forced them to be better storytellers. 🤔
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The fact that the episodes (not including nominations and evictions) vary as much by as much as 8 minutes in runtime without ads on paramount+ is wild to me lol
 

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bradnak said:
If I were a better/ faster typist, I would love that transcription job. Heck, I'd love to become a story producer, just to try to steer them away from the showmances when better storylines are available. I realise the love mandate is probably coming down from above, but ughhhhhhh!
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I actually think ESA and the producers contracted by them are steering the format and narrative we’re seeing. Ten is the one who probably insisted on bringing OG back. I do wonder if they are indeed happy with what ESA is creating for them.
 
AntiGretel said:
no such thing as salt n vinegar

all chips have salt

therefore they are just Vinegar Chips
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While it might be redundant to say that there is salt with the vinegar, it's not incorrect. The only way it would be incorrect is if there wasn't any salt.

I know that I'm technically correct, but it's the best kind of correct 💪
 
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