white_tulips
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At the risk of another thread becoming a Ben versus Estelle war I will say nothing more in this except that it was just my opinion that is all! Have a nice day now 

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Calm down Estelle fan. He won and we all knew his opinion on her before he left tell house. Hell if I didn't like someone I would not pretend to the media that I loved them like a family member.
Exactly! We know he's capable of being kind anyway. We've all seen it. Just because he doesn't want to gush over Estelle doesn't mean he's not a kind person.
He put the horse with Estelle's case?
I'm confused too.
Exactly! We know he's capable of being kind anyway. We've all seen it. Just because he doesn't want to gush over Estelle doesn't mean he's not a kind person.
You said that being part of the final three, with Layla and Estelle, was hard. Who would you have preferred to be there?
I would have preferred Stacey or Zoe over Estelle. I think Layla deserved to be there and I think Michael could have been there as well. I think Michael, Stacey and Zoe all were very deserving to be there. I think the reason why the last part was very hard was that I think in lots of ways − while I think Estelle is an incredible person − she jarred on me quite considerably. It was just really hard to be in this environment where you’ve probably been put in there to clash against someone, the personalities just don’t click. She just kept saying things that weren’t really what I believe to be true in the last couple of days. It was just hard to be sitting there, the three at the end and feeling like, ‘Why am I here when you are making something that’s so amazing so difficult’.
Is everything cool between you and Estelle now?
Yes, for sure. I think that she’s an incredible person and she brought a lot to the house. To watch her even being in the house is a much better experience than to interact with her. I think people probably thought I was bullying or something in a way, but I don’t think they understood as to how it was all playing out inside the house. She’d had different accents and different voices and changed her politics and her mind, state her ideas and then forget what she was talking about. It just didn’t come together very well for me.
You wore your Nicole Kidman shirt last night...
Yes, I wanted to wear it in, but they said to me no I couldn’t, and they chose a different outfit for me. I think once you get to the point you’re in the final three, you get to have more say in what you wear.
What was it like being left alone in the house after Layla was evicted?
Once Layla was gone I was terrified. I was like, ‘How long am I going to be in here for’, and time stood still. I then felt overwhelmed by the fact that I had won − and what the other girls got… I started packing stuff around the house that they could take with them. Estelle, she needs this fake horse so I’ll put it with her suitcase.
He put the horse with Estelle's case?
Pfft. He's kind to simpleton sheeple who lick his arse and buy the contrived bullshit that spews out of his mouth. People like Estelle who can see through the vile human piece of excrement that he is, well he makes sure he 'destroys'/smears them through gossip to the point that everybody in that social circle thinks whoever benny boy deems to be 'weird' and annoying is not worthy of respect.
That's the power of people manipulators such as ben, they 'subtlety' poison the mindset of a group and gradually accept the lies he concocts about a particular innoncent individual.
Thanks for those articles guys.
We're starting to get a few more details, but I want to hear more. Why weren't we shown any of that?
I think perhaps because Ben may be misrepresenting things a bit -
"She just kept saying things that weren’t really what I believe to be true in the last couple of days."
- he did find out things that weren't true, but things that had been said about Estelle that weren't true such as Stacey saying Estelle hid the hairspray, when Estelle obviously never did anything with her hair whereas many of the other girls used lots of spray eg Stacey, Layla and possibly Angie. The finding out that Estelle hadn't said she was only there for the money etc
"She’d had different accents and different voices and changed her politics and her mind, state her ideas and then forget what she was talking about. It just didn’t come together very well for me."
All the housemates talked about the multiple personalities - so nothing new there - but changed her politics, state her ideas and then forget? Ben is the only one bringing that up - either in or out of the house. Considering the copious bad-mouthing that the other HMs did, both to each and in the diary room, you'd expect that to have popped up - or in post-eviction interviews.
I think his partner/mother/whoever brought him up to speed the night of the finale with the strong for/against arguments for Estelle and for Ben's perceived role in her treatment and he was justifying himself pre-emptively. I also think he believes whatever comes out of his mouth.
I was also interested by his responses regarding after-party hook-ups. He was very much putting across that he left the and was only going on what he had heard - except when asked about Michael and Estelle -
What about Michael and Estelle?
Nothing there. Nothing at all.
...Very definite, very adamant. In keeping with his other responses I would have expected something more along the lines of "I doubt it" or "not that I heard about" or even "I hope not!"
As Ben has said himself - he's the world's biggest bitch, he loves to manipulate people, he's a compulsive liar (or was that a lie!), and he talks absolute rubbish.