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At the risk of another thread becoming a Ben versus Estelle war I will say nothing more in this except that it was just my opinion that is all! Have a nice day now :)
 
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Calm down Estelle fan. He won and we all knew his opinion on her before he left tell house. Hell if I didn't like someone I would not pretend to the media that I loved them like a family member.

Exactly! We know he's capable of being kind anyway. We've all seen it. Just because he doesn't want to gush over Estelle doesn't mean he's not a kind person.
 
I'm surprised that BB knew he had the ring / diamond... In interviews that day after his win, he seemed to suggest no one knew about it all...

Thou if they did know I'm glad they didn't make a big deal out it... While I am very happy for him and his fiancé Ben, it was starting to annoy me that all media he did after his win was about the proposal, I want to hear more about what went on in the house!
 
Well he said he went in the house with it, so BB would have known because they search them and their bags before they get in the house.
 
Exactly! We know he's capable of being kind anyway. We've all seen it. Just because he doesn't want to gush over Estelle doesn't mean he's not a kind person.

Pfft. He's kind to simpleton sheeple who lick his arse and buy the contrived bullshit that spews out of his mouth. People like Estelle who can see through the vile human piece of excrement that he is, well he makes sure he 'destroys'/smears them through gossip to the point that everybody in that social circle thinks whoever benny boy deems to be 'weird' and annoying is not worthy of respect.

That's the power of people manipulators such as ben, they 'subtlety' poison the mindset of a group and gradually accept the lies he concocts about a particular innoncent individual.
 
From ok magazine website
http://www.okmagazine.com.au/celebrities/ok-caught-up-with-big-brother-winner-ben.htm

Congratulations on your win!
Oh my God, thank you so much
! I can’t believe it. This is the most amazing experience that has ever happened to me, and the way that it came out all in all is just thrilling.

Are you still running on a high?
I’ve officially run-out. I love OK! magazine − I’m just like… oh my God!

How did you guys spend your final day in the house? Was it bittersweet?
No, I was really quite keen to get out of there. I was missing my mum and I was missing [boyfriend] Ben and I was ready for the next stage of my life. Whilst I walked around the house and made the most of it and felt privileged to be there, it became a lot harder in the last 48 hours… I thought, ‘Am I going to be the winner, am I going to be the loser? What’s going on?’ It was scary.

How did you feel when you realised that you had won?
I hyperventilated! They read out that I was the winner and I literally felt like my head was going to explode – the amount of sweat that poured out of my head when I got on stage! It was just the most amazing experience, it doesn’t settle in. It never kicks in when you get told that you’re the winner of something like this, there’s only one and there was an incredible list of people in there that were trying to win this program. The fact that I got to that stage was quite amazing.

What was it like being left alone in the house after Layla was evicted?
Once Layla was gone I was terrified. I was like, ‘How long am I going to be in here for’, and time stood still. I then felt overwhelmed by the fact that I had won − and what the other girls got… I started packing stuff around the house that they could take with them. Estelle, she needs this fake horse so I’ll put it with her suitcase.

Did you take any mementos from the house for yourself?
Stacey gave me this Humpty Dumpty set, which was by my bed at night and I took that, but apart from that, I haven’t taken anything. I think I‘d be in trouble with the big chief − with Big Brother.

Was it fun exiting the BB house with host Sonia Kruger?
When I saw Sonia in there I thought, ‘I’m going to lose my mind’. Mainly because for me Sonia is like an Australian icon and I hadn’t really had much of a chance to meet her. When I went into the house I only said two words to her and then disappeared. To meet her and then have that one-on-one chat was incredible.

You wore your Nicole Kidman shirt last night...
Yes, I wanted to wear it in, but they said to me no I couldn’t, and they chose a different outfit for me. I think once you get to the point you’re in the final three, you get to have more say in what you wear. Nicole Kidman…. when I was eight years of age, I was obsessed with the movie BMX Bandits, and to understand eight years of age for me was 1988, so this is a very long time before 2001 when her career really took off with Moulin Rouge!.

So you were a big fan from day one?
Not like a crazy fan… If she was at a party I was at I wouldn’t even walk up to her and talk to her. I’m not some crazy person who wants to be her friend or anything, more I like the way that she speaks and talks about being an Australian and talks about family. I think that she’s been quite a strong role model and a good presence in my life. It felt right to wear something like that. It’s a signed picture – she signed it for me.

You said that being part of the final three, with Layla and Estelle, was hard. Who would you have preferred to be there?
I would have preferred Stacey or Zoe over Estelle. I think Layla deserved to be there and I think Michael could have been there as well. I think Michael, Stacey and Zoe all were very deserving to be there. I think the reason why the last part was very hard was that I think in lots of ways − while I think Estelle is an incredible person − she jarred on me quite considerably. It was just really hard to be in this environment where you’ve probably been put in there to clash against someone, the personalities just don’t click. She just kept saying things that weren’t really what I believe to be true in the last couple of days. It was just hard to be sitting there, the three at the end and feeling like, ‘Why am I here when you are making something that’s so amazing so difficult’.

Is everything cool between you and Estelle now?
Yes, for sure. I think that she’s an incredible person and she brought a lot to the house. To watch her even being in the house is a much better experience than to interact with her. I think people probably thought I was bullying or something in a way, but I don’t think they understood as to how it was all playing out inside the house. She’d had different accents and different voices and changed her politics and her mind, state her ideas and then forget what she was talking about. It just didn’t come together very well for me.

There’s been speculation that we didn’t see a lot of juicy things that happened on BB...
I really haven’t had a chance to see any of it, I’ve seen nothing. People have been talking all day about this interaction I had with my mum when she was in the house, I haven’t even seen that. I lived the experience and I don’t think I’m going to go back and watch it all from start to finish so I don’t think I’ll ever be able to comment on what Channel Nine did. I think the other housemates are going to have to be the best ones, the ones who have watched the show since they’ve been evicted. That’s a question for them.

Do you have any exciting goss from last night’s afterparty? Did Josh and Ava rekindle their romance?
Someone told me, I don’t know if this is true, that my brother kissed Ava last night, I don’t know if that’s true though. I thought that sounded weird, but then I haven’t had that confirmed.

What about Michael and Estelle?
Nothing there. Nothing at all.

Are Sam and Layla back together?
Back, full swing! They’re lovely. I hope that they find something out of this, because both of them are just beautiful people. I often talked in the house about how nice Sam was and how I struggled to connect with him on a personal level, but I have to say that he was an incredible housemate and is very well suited to her. I hope that something works out from this for them.

Were there any surprising new hook-ups last night?
I only know gossip. I left the afterparty so I’ve only been told the gossip, but there was a housemate hook-up and I think it will probably be a story told not by me. There’s an unusual hook-up that you probably wouldn’t have expected.

Did you always plan to propose to your boyfriend, Ben, on live TV?
Always planned to. I actually though if I get voted out on the first week, I would still have proposed to him. It would have been a harder sell considering that I’d just been evicted first and that would be because the housemates hated me, and I’d be like, ‘Hey, I got evicted first. Want to marry me?’ And he’d be like, ‘What? No I don’t think so’. But then the magic of it was every single time I was nominated, the housemates I was nominated with would go to bed stressing about being evicted and I went to bed putting together an engagement proposal for Ben.

Did it happen exactly the way you played it out in your mind?
I don’t know exactly how it all happened. I’ve been told and I’ve been played versions of it and I need to sit down and watch what it was. What I do know is that there’s been a very strong positive reaction to it and that’s all I cared about. I was honest with myself and honest with my feelings towards Ben and that’s what it needed to be.

How does it feel that your proposal triggered a wave of online support to legalise gay marriage?
I think for me, I’m not the face of the gay community, I’m not the face of same sex marriage. All I’ve done is be honest with myself and proposed to someone that I want to spend the rest of my life with. I know that that’s pushing debate and that’s pushing us in a strong direction. I think more importantly to me was me going on to Big Brother and not being known as Benjamin just being Benjamin who’s gay, but I was Benjamin for myself and that maybe Australia got to know me and doesn’t think necessarily that that’s the first thing you think about, it’s the fifth or sixth thing. The idea of us getting married is just normal.

When will you have the wedding?
I really haven’t even had a chance to think about it, to be honest. An engagement party will most likely happen at some point this year, but we’re certainly not going to elope. We’re going to enjoy the process of being able to plan something. Both of us had resigned from the fact that we thought this would be something that would happen in our life, and we’re lucky enough to have found something to then signify this with an idea of what we call marriage, the marriage of values. We’ll also make the most out of planning an Australian wedding with our close family and friends.

What do you think you’ll do with the prize money?
I’m going to get $10 and then Ben will spend the rest on something sensible. I want to buy the cinema projection screen they had in the Captain’s Quarters. I really want that. I don’t think Ben wants that, he knows that I’ll put it in the bedroom and I’ll never get out of bed.

You’ve said in the past you’d use the money to start a family, is that still the case?
Yes.
 
And another from ok magazine website
http://www.okmagazine.com.au/celebrities/ok-sits-down-with-big-brothers-stacey-.htm
Stacey says goodbye to the Big Brother house and tells OK! what she did on her first night of freedom…

How do you feel now that you’re out of the house?
Good, I’m free!

Did you expect to leave so close to the end?
It was sad, but it was nice to know with eight more days to go, I didn’t miss out on too much – as opposed to if I had gone in the first week.

Were you ready to go or did you want to stay till the end?
I could have stayed. I got this far and I would have loved to have been there at the end, but it’s all good. I was going to have to get the boot at some point!

Was it a bit of a shock as you had never been up for nominations before?
I didn’t really know, only for the fact that I hadn’t been up for noms. I knew it would be a gamble so I sort of had a little bit of a feeling.

Have you managed to enjoy your freedom yet?
Yeah, sort of. I was doing interviews yesterday, which was all a bit hectic. I flew back to Sydney and caught up with my boyfriend and we had Thai in bed, so that’s as far as I have been. It’s the small things that are exciting.

Was that your celebratory meal?
It was. I had a chicken pad see ew last night, which was beautiful. I haven’t had it in three months!

What about the outside world? Did anything happen while you were in the house which surprised or shocked you?
The biggest surprise is the pink dress that Jessica Biel wore with JT. It was beautiful and she looked stunning, but a pink dress seems so out of character. I haven’t had time to catch up on anything else, but that was a big shock!

You reunited with your boyfriend last night − was he watching your every move in the house?
He did. He was my biggest fan, supporting me. I’m super lucky.

Did he say what he liked the most of the show?
I think he liked my creepy clown face. He likes all the creepy things I do, which is sort of disturbing. I guess it’s good because if he likes me at my worst, he’ll like me at my best.

Did you and Estelle have anything in common at all?
We are actually both quite the rapper. I’m not a rapper at all, I rap for jokes and she raps for seriousness, but we sort of had that in common and had a laugh about that all the time.

So you won’t be starting up a band anytime soon?
I’m going to say no to that. Probs not!

Are you surprised to see her still there?
No, I was surprised when we first got in the house how popular she was on the outside − obviously because she was nominated every week − but she’s doing really well, so good on her.

Do you think that Sam and Layla will stick it out?
I don’t know. I want to see what happens when they get out. I know that they’ll hang out and catch-up on the outside. I think they will stand a chance if she’s moving to the Gold Coast and he’s there. I think he wants to travel and things though, so I guess we’ll see what happens when they get out.

What about Michael and Estelle? Do you see anything developing there?
No, I don’t think so. I think you crave affection towards the end while you’re in the house, anything you can get. I think they’re just good friends that like to massage each other, really.

Have you asked if you can adopt Delilah?
My baby! I have. That was one of the first questions I asked, if I could keep her. I think she’s going to go to a really good home but I want to keep up-to-date with her. I stole a photo from the house with her face and I slept with her next to my bed. Yes, I am a crazy, psycho, dog lady!

Do you think Ryan Gosling has heard about the cardboard cut-out of him?
I hope not! He’s probably got a restraining order against me. I’m so embarrassed! It’s was just a bit of fun. It was so nice to see a different face for those two days!

What will you miss most about the BB house?
I’m going to miss Ben the most. I just sort of miss not talking to him and having him next to me all the time. I know I’ll see him in eight days though so that’s exciting.

So Ben’s definitely a friend for life for you?
Absolutely.

What will you miss least about the house?
Probably the nominations. The staples diet was hideous. It was good for weight loss, but the lentils killed my life.

Who do you think will win?
I want Benjamin to win for sure.

What’s next for you?
I don’t know. I just want to get over the next couple of days and get to the final eviction. I’d love to go on to work in radio or TV. I want to do something fun!
 
What was it like being left alone in the house after Layla was evicted?
Once Layla was gone I was terrified. I was like, ‘How long am I going to be in here for’, and time stood still. I then felt overwhelmed by the fact that I had won − and what the other girls got… I started packing stuff around the house that they could take with them. Estelle, she needs this fake horse so I’ll put it with her suitcase.

He put the horse with Estelle's case?
 
I'm confused too.



I'm also confused by this -

"I then felt overwhelmed by the fact that I had won − and what the other girls got… I started packing stuff around the house that they could take with them"

It sounds like he's referring to their prize's - but he didn't know at that point what they had, or hadn't, won - as I'm pretty sure that wasn't screened into the house.
 
Exactly! We know he's capable of being kind anyway. We've all seen it. Just because he doesn't want to gush over Estelle doesn't mean he's not a kind person.

Not a matter of gushing. How about just shutting up?
It's over, he got the cash, and he still feels compelled to diss Estelle ... why? His poor form is breathtaking.

Ben can be accused of many things - kindness is not one of them.
 
Thanks for those articles guys.

You said that being part of the final three, with Layla and Estelle, was hard. Who would you have preferred to be there?
I would have preferred Stacey or Zoe over Estelle. I think Layla deserved to be there and I think Michael could have been there as well. I think Michael, Stacey and Zoe all were very deserving to be there. I think the reason why the last part was very hard was that I think in lots of ways − while I think Estelle is an incredible person − she jarred on me quite considerably. It was just really hard to be in this environment where you’ve probably been put in there to clash against someone, the personalities just don’t click. She just kept saying things that weren’t really what I believe to be true in the last couple of days. It was just hard to be sitting there, the three at the end and feeling like, ‘Why am I here when you are making something that’s so amazing so difficult’.

Is everything cool between you and Estelle now?
Yes, for sure. I think that she’s an incredible person and she brought a lot to the house. To watch her even being in the house is a much better experience than to interact with her. I think people probably thought I was bullying or something in a way, but I don’t think they understood as to how it was all playing out inside the house. She’d had different accents and different voices and changed her politics and her mind, state her ideas and then forget what she was talking about. It just didn’t come together very well for me.

We're starting to get a few more details, but I want to hear more. Why weren't we shown any of that?

You wore your Nicole Kidman shirt last night...
Yes, I wanted to wear it in, but they said to me no I couldn’t, and they chose a different outfit for me. I think once you get to the point you’re in the final three, you get to have more say in what you wear.

That one seems a bit odd to me, that they would choose an alternative outfit for him rather than letting him pick one himself. Don't they check their entry outfits in advance and give them a chance to pick a different one if need be?

I bring that up because first impressions last and if you were going in there, you would want to wear your own clothes on launch night especially. That suspenders outfit they gave Ben didn't really seem "him".

What was it like being left alone in the house after Layla was evicted?
Once Layla was gone I was terrified. I was like, ‘How long am I going to be in here for’, and time stood still. I then felt overwhelmed by the fact that I had won − and what the other girls got… I started packing stuff around the house that they could take with them. Estelle, she needs this fake horse so I’ll put it with her suitcase.

He put the horse with Estelle's case?


I think there were multiple horses, so he would have put one of them with her suitcase.
 
Pfft. He's kind to simpleton sheeple who lick his arse and buy the contrived bullshit that spews out of his mouth. People like Estelle who can see through the vile human piece of excrement that he is, well he makes sure he 'destroys'/smears them through gossip to the point that everybody in that social circle thinks whoever benny boy deems to be 'weird' and annoying is not worthy of respect.

That's the power of people manipulators such as ben, they 'subtlety' poison the mindset of a group and gradually accept the lies he concocts about a particular innoncent individual.


'Vile piece of excrement' is perhaps going a bit far, however he was obviously playing the game hard and I can't really believe much of what he says on the outside. He'll want to come out of this looking as good as possible, and he also needs to start admitting that he acted up to the camera a lot. All this crap about him being honest in there isn't that believable as we know he was more concerned about avoiding nominations than anything. Only after they were over did he suck up less. He is therefore full of enough contradictions himself, he keeps saying Estelle is incredible for instance and yet he says she doesn't deserve to be in the final. That makes no sense whatsoever. He needs to start understanding that the public decide who stays in the house, not him.
 
Yeah, I was convinced they had been talked thru what would happen over the course of the finale, but I guess not!

Estelle posted a pic of herself with the glass horse, at the HMs photo shoot in the house the next day so maybe she took it then?
 
Here's a thought- Estelle could start a business where she takes small groups on a holiday and stay in a house together. All these ardent fans could sign up- and at the end of 2 weeks- they could come back having ripped their hair out with frustration - or come back glowing having thoroughly basked in the wonder of all things Estelle.
Either way it would be a memorable experience for them.
 
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hahaha - it would be interesting to see what all the Estelle fans think of her once they had to actually live with her!

Sams interview with etravelblackboard
http://www.etravelblackboard.com/article/137682/sam-wallace-big-brother

Also I very much doubt it will be very good or anything like that, but just mentioning for those that still want to get their BB HMs fix, Layla and Ryan are going to be on TVSN tonight for some charity thing. Starts at 7.30pm i believe (melb/syd time).
 
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Thanks for those articles guys.



We're starting to get a few more details, but I want to hear more. Why weren't we shown any of that?


I think perhaps because Ben may be misrepresenting things a bit -

"She just kept saying things that weren’t really what I believe to be true in the last couple of days."

- he did find out things that weren't true, but things that had been said about Estelle that weren't true such as Stacey saying Estelle hid the hairspray, when Estelle obviously never did anything with her hair whereas many of the other girls used lots of spray eg Stacey, Layla and possibly Angie. The finding out that Estelle hadn't said she was only there for the money etc

"She’d had different accents and different voices and changed her politics and her mind, state her ideas and then forget what she was talking about. It just didn’t come together very well for me."

All the housemates talked about the multiple personalities - so nothing new there - but changed her politics, state her ideas and then forget? Ben is the only one bringing that up - either in or out of the house. Considering the copious bad-mouthing that the other HMs did, both to each and in the diary room, you'd expect that to have popped up - or in post-eviction interviews.

I think his partner/mother/whoever brought him up to speed the night of the finale with the strong for/against arguments for Estelle and for Ben's perceived role in her treatment and he was justifying himself pre-emptively. I also think he believes whatever comes out of his mouth.

I was also interested by his responses regarding after-party hook-ups. He was very much putting across that he left the and was only going on what he had heard - except when asked about Michael and Estelle -

What about Michael and Estelle?
Nothing there. Nothing at all.

...Very definite, very adamant. In keeping with his other responses I would have expected something more along the lines of "I doubt it" or "not that I heard about" or even "I hope not!"

As Ben has said himself - he's the world's biggest bitch, he loves to manipulate people, he's a compulsive liar (or was that a lie!), and he talks absolute rubbish.
 
Another article about Layla, more explaination about Estelle as well, I'm really started to get a better understanding of why they struggled with her in the house.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/enterta...ig-brother-house/story-e6frf9ho-1226519756029

SHE'S been out of the Big Brother house for just under two weeks now, but the one thing runner-up Layla Subritzky wants more than anything, is to be back in the house.


"I just want to go back in!" she told news.com.au "I'm loving seeing my family but I just want to go back in the house, I'm missing everyone so much.

"The best thing about the house is that you havent got any control over anything, you dont even know what time it is, you've got no commitments to anything, it's kind of nice."

The 24-year-old has been filling in her time catching up with friends and family and getting to know her new housemate boyfriend Sam Wallace away from the prying eyes of the cameras.

Tonight, Subritzky will appear as part of TVSN's Starlight Foundation's Celebrity Challenge in which a host of celebrities will put their selling skills to the test, aiming to flog a bunch of products live on air to raise money for charity.

"I'm looking for a new job, so hopefully the shopping channel might employ me," she laughed.

TVSN’s Celebrity Challenge is on air tonight from 7:30pm – 9:30pm AEDST on TVSN and Channel 14 - Freeview.

But prior to her debut as a TV shopping queen, we caught up with Layla and asked her to dish the dirt on her time in the house.

How are things going with Sam now that you're out of the house?

"Really good thanks! He lives just around the corner from me. I got out of the house and my family had moved us to the Gold Coast and I gave him my address and he was like 'wow, that's around the corner, like walking distance', it was so weird."

Are you one boyfriend / girlfriend terms yet?

"Pretty much!"

Is this a long term thing for you or are you just having a bit of fun together?

"Yeh it is, (a long term prospect), but for me, I just want him to go travelling. he's 21 and I've been travelling, I've done all that, so I want him to go and experience it next year. He's got his flights booked."

Will you be going with him?

"Maybe!"

This was the first PG big brother, was there a lot of stuff you think could have gone on TV that didnt?

"There was a few things, but nothing major. Like the chilli challenge, that was a lot worse than what I think it was portrayed, we were all really, really ill."

Were there any other hook-ups we didnt get to see?

"No, you saw all the hookups - mainly me. I was hook-up central. Hook-up Town: population me!"

How aware were you that there were cameras constantly watching you? Did you forget sometimes?

"Oh yeh, you forget! You completely forget, it's so weird. You're just doing your own thing, it's like you're at home and then every so often you freak out and go 'oh, s--t there's cameras'".

Is there any behavious or actions or a moment that you regretted, after realising you were on camera?

I've got no regrets apart from probably having that argument with Angie, I really regret that because it's just not me.

What's the one thing that frustrated you the most being in the confines of the house?

Estelle, she was probably the most annoying thing about the whole experience. No one realises how hard she was to live with, it was really hard. It was the drama, her talking to herself so the cameras could hear, like the whole game play. I'd walk in and I'd be thinking, 'what are you talking about? who are you talking to?' and she'd go 'oh nothing' and then trot around on her horse. It was so weird.

Would you have done anything different in the house?

"I probably wouldnt have fallen out with Benjamin, I dont know what it wasd, i think we're so alike that we kind of clashed at a point where we were emotionally unstable, so there was a point in the house were we all just going crazy and i wish we'd never had that falling out, but now we're the best of friends."

Was it easier or harder to live in the house than you thought?

"It was hard, don't get me wrong, we didn't even known the time! We actually found out the time one night when we werent supposed to and we were working it out with a star that was always in the sky, but it turns out that everytime the star was at the point where we thought it was nine o'clock, it was actually 1am. We thought we were going to bed at nine! No wonder we were completely exhausted by the end!"

What's the one thing you were craving when you left the house?

"Music, the one thing I wanted was music!"
 
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