Oh I do love it when posters become this connected. So I'll play along.... Benjamin, your Scoopla interviews have been more revealing and enjoyable than any radio/tv or evictions chats. Hehe...
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Ben (2012) or Tim (2013) Who is worthier?
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Oh I do love it when posters become this connected. So I'll play along.... Benjamin, your Scoopla interviews have been more revealing and enjoyable than any radio/tv or evictions chats. Hehe...
Not me. He was horrible. Estelle deserved the win. The way she was treated in that house was just bullying, plain and simple, with Ben being the key bully.
Agreed. Ben was part of a "cool group" along with Stacey, Zoe, Josh and Michael. That group controlled the whole game, and were hardly nominated throughout the series.
starry
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Tim was better, though arrogant. The problem this year was that the storyline followed a predictable course from start to end. Tim was prominent from the first week as the puppetmaster, Tahan was shown as the mean girl from the start, Jade was meant to be the showmance HM as well.
I was happy with both as winners, but in terms of earning it, Tim made the show, it would have been lacking something if he wasn't there. Last year would have been lacking something too without Ben, but not to the same degree, as it still would have had Michael and some of the others creating content. Both were worthy winners, but Tim moreso.
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valit06
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without any doubt: TIM!
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Funkypete
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Ive said it before but ive rarely watched bb before let alone voted. This year ive watched every ep and sent in thousands of votes. For one reason, Tim.
Angel
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You need to keep in mind that BB loved Ben, not so much us. We liked him but he was only the number 1 fav to a handful, everyone else liked Tim and Ben or Drew and Ben or Jade and Ben and so on. He never deserved the win, we just assumed he would be a contender for it with how much BB loved him. All polls done online showed that he never scored high. Funny that, no one thought he would leave but no one voted for him to stay. I think BB showing him love made people just assume he was loved and safe.
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lol I don't think you could confuse the two...
Butterfly_Wings
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Even though I doubt Ben would really bother posting in here this is pretty much close to what he would say. Ben if you are reading, I know you know how loved you are and that this forum still has many bitter Estelle fans LOL. Two naughty boys won, two years in a row and they can't take that away from you.
starry
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He wasn't 'naughty', he was a bitter camp guy with anger issues. He tried to pass off this bitterness as being part of an alter ego he had. I actually found Angie more entertaining with her moods, I guess bitchy camp men are more allowed to get away with stuff for some people. Ben should have gone before her.
mickrip
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As much as Ben's social game was on par with Tim's, Tim's entertained more. Ben was just lucky that Michael kissed Estelle, heh heh heh 
I wonder if Tim's way of playing will somehow influence how the game is played in the future; now that it's proven that a loud-mouthed entertainer can win. Then again, Jade came 2nd...
I wonder if Tim's way of playing will somehow influence how the game is played in the future; now that it's proven that a loud-mouthed entertainer can win. Then again, Jade came 2nd...
Agreed. The way Ben and (to a lesser extent) Layla celebrated last year when Estelle was evicted was just horrible. I know that they weren't friends with her, but they could have at least shown some compassion.
There were rivalries this year, but I didn't see any housemates cheering about someone else being evicted.
No. Zach from season 7 was voted most worthy runner-up in another poll, and he was gay.
I loved Ben from this year.
I hated Ben from last year because:
1) He and his "cool group" created a gang to bully Estelle.
2) His group also attacked Ava and Sam because they wouldn't join in the Estelle hate.
3) whenever a housemate would leave the room, he couldn't wait 5 minutes to bitch about them.
4) Most of his personality was related to his bitchiness, or his friendship with Stacey.
5) He was hardly ever nominated throughout the whole series, then when he got nominated in the last 2 weeks, he had a tantrum and sulked for days.
6) Taking Estelle's horse toy and throwing it over the fence.
7) Throwing water over Bradley.
8) The way he celebrated when Estelle was evicted.
I know he had some funny moments, but so did most other housemates. I just don't see why people think he was entertaining.
I don't understand how constantly bitching about people is classed as "entertainment". Same reason I don't like Tahan from this year, but she wasn't as ad as Benjamin.
Ben from this year was really nice. He is quite popular with the public, but doesn't seem to have many fans on the forum. Not sure why.
Tim didn't create groups to bully one specific housemate. Tim created groups and different dynamics, but even those who didn't like him had other friends in the house.
Benjamin teamed up with other housemates to bully one person. Tim could be funny and argue with people, even without backup. I doubt Ben would have been so confident without Stacey, Michael and Zoe backing him all the time.
Not to mention, Tim was nice with both Tahan and Jade at finale, whereas Benjamin could help but bitch about Estelle, even on their last night in the house. And the way he celebrated when Stella was evicted.