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The Bachelor 2017

It's just something I'm used to living in South Australia, being half an hour behind :p I don't mind really as I read the whole thread afterwards and it's interesting to see all our comments in context.

...haha!... it's the other way around for me Meglos... I usually re-watch the show itself (usually the next day before the 2nd show runs) rather than re-read the thread for two reasons... the first being so that I see the little bits that I missed while my head is down while typing (I'm a pretty slow typer at times) and secondly so that I can see any potential for Photoshop images that I may be able to use... and while searching for those clips or shots I may actually have watched little bits or sections of the episode about 4-5 times in the end for the perfect frame/frames for the Photoshops lol!...

...so I see a lot of things quite a few times over and over in certain episodes especially when I'm doing a 'storyline' of a few panels... the hardest part for me is when I have to -watch people that I detest over and over and over in order to get the perfect shot... that does my head in because they are most often of who the Photoshop's are about lol!... I dunno... the amounts of bullets that I take for you folks just for a quick laugh!... lol!... thanks for letting me know my friend... cheers.
 
But her bottom's all shiny! How could they snort white powder off that? It would stick.

This show has really gone downhill. I don't give a toss about any of them. Usually there are a good handful of women I enjoy just seeing their reactions and hearing their interchanges with each other and a couple I am rooting for to get to the finals/be 'in love' with the geezer at the end. Nup.
 
But her bottom's all shiny! How could they snort white powder off that? It would stick.

This show has really gone downhill. I don't give a toss about any of them. Usually there are a good handful of women I enjoy just seeing their reactions and hearing their interchanges with each other and a couple I am rooting for to get to the finals/be 'in love' with the geezer at the end. Nup.
It the problem is the same as all these shows. They focus on the be-arches and showboats and the genuine ones never get seen. You don't often see the ones trying to steer clear of the drama as they don't make for good reality TV. How often do we see the girl he had first date with... Lisa I think her name is? Or the cop?
 
soooooooooooooooo bring in the Big Sis and then get her to ask loaded questions and let it all hit the fan - making it look like the girls all rounded on her and spilt the beans to an unsuspecting sister ... yeah right ... and I'm the tooth fairy!!

when were they supposed to discuss their party girl exploits with Matty given the situation? neither one had been on a single date ... short conversations in the garden on cocktail nights don't really get you to the stage where you would normally discuss that sort of thing

and why was it ok for Blake (Bachelor 2) and Tim (Bachelor 1) to have worked as topless waiters in their past but its not ok for Leah and Simone to have done so?

ok so Leah's exploits seem to be a little more sordid now I've seen the pics above in the thread - but how come this stuff comes out AFTER the show starts - why don't they do thorough background searches with these people? - because it makes 'good' viewing? personally I'd prefer less of the backstabbing, bitching and moaning and more of the violins and goosebumps ... but thats just me ...
I guess seeing the bitchiness playing out gives us a better idea of who WE want Matty to choose but if he's left oblivious to all that ... oh wait - they'll just bring Big Sis back to sort it all out again.

I think they'd have been better off taking it down the mean girl road more - and Matty did tend to dwell more on that aspect with Leah ... but why not pick up on Jen's name being dropped in there as well? Hopefully she'll be marching off into the sunset soon anyway ... don't like her - she's a real sneaky chameleon/shape-changer if ever I saw one!

Simone handled it really well ... but umm well it must be hard to carry off the "little miss totally cleaned up my act" personna when your boobs are totally trying to escape your dress. In saying that - she owned her past and for now she's safe - but she'll be heading home soon enough ...

and so who is going on the overnight date then? and who are the 3 girls that leave? (please please let Jen be one of them!!!)

looked like a blonde in the preview ... its someone's 2nd date ... I don't remember Lisa going on a date - but its been mentioned that she did ... don't see her interacting with Matty that much though so don't see that it would be her ... so does that leave Florence, Alix (too soon for her though?), Elise and Tara???

oh - and talking about dates ... taking a woman to a waterski park - especially someone who hasn't previously waterskiied - is just going to see them being dumped time and time again in the water. Very few of us have the upper body strength ready and willing to have our arms wrenched out of their sockets by the force of the rope. Alix did really well not to totally lose her shit if you ask me! :D

I still really like Laura ... but she's not blonde ... and I think she might be someone who would leave the competition after hearing about an overnight stay ... I think it would be a deal breaker. Who really wants to hang around waiting to be dated by a guy who's trialling the goods with someone else?

Don't know why they have to push an overnight date anyway - it just gives the Daily Fail and the trashy women's mags something to "ponder" over (ie make up a lot of crap to sell their publications which are only good for lining budgie cages) and noone really knows what goes on besides the 2 people involved. I'm for keeping it PG and allowing us to get goosebumps over a few heavy duty kisses :)

I wasn't going to even bother watching the Bachelorette but after seeing the promo I might give it a go - but it will probably only last 5 minutes of Sophie Monk talking and I'll be fiddling with the remote looking for the OFF button :)
 
btw (can't be bothered rewatching the ep) but did Matty end up kissing Alix after she did her level best to talk him into asking for the rose back (by constantly reminding him of the whole bunch of other women he's dangling on a chain?) ... and if he didn't does this mean she'll end up being friend-zoned?
 
btw (can't be bothered rewatching the ep) but did Matty end up kissing Alix after she did her level best to talk him into asking for the rose back (by constantly reminding him of the whole bunch of other women he's dangling on a chain?) ... and if he didn't does this mean she'll end up being friend-zoned?
From memory the editing was badly done round that time... Went from him getting annoyed about her talking about others to it suddenly being the next day on the group date. So I think its no kiss but cannot be sure.
 
10 have stuffed up, did they hire much cheaper editors, directors, producers?

It all went horribly wrong last night - focusing on girls who needed topless work to get through uni, when they should have kicked her out for being a BITCH...

And as far as this casual viewer is concerned - they have maybe 2 girls with any personality, Jen the witch and Tara the fun girl
 
btw (can't be bothered rewatching the ep) but did Matty end up kissing Alix after she did her level best to talk him into asking for the rose back (by constantly reminding him of the whole bunch of other women he's dangling on a chain?) ... and if he didn't does this mean she'll end up being friend-zoned?

From memory the editing was badly done round that time... Went from him getting annoyed about her talking about others to it suddenly being the next day on the group date. So I think its no kiss but cannot be sure.

...I can't remember who said it on the night but someone said that Matty got short with her saying that he was stringing several girls along and because it wasn't about her praising him up that's why he got a tad bit shitty with her and I totally agree with whoever said it too... to me... Matty seems to be the 'entitled' type to me... when one of the girls doesn't keep making him feel like he's a 'prize' to who they should idolise at all times his ego then gets a tad bit 'bruised'... he comes across to me at least as being a bit of a spoiled brat and because he was fobbed off by that girl on The Bachelorette that he thinks that he should now be treated like royalty being that he's the 'star' of the show this time...

...to be honest... I think that he's looking for a girl that will both 'mother' him and will look like his 'perfect model' of what he thinks a woman should be... a complete replica of his sister Kate... hence his preoccupation with blonds... maybe I'm wrong but my gut feeling says that I'm not somehow... cheers.
 
10 have stuffed up, did they hire much cheaper editors, directors, producers?

It all went horribly wrong last night - focusing on girls who needed topless work to get through uni, when they should have kicked her out for being a BITCH...

And as far as this casual viewer is concerned - they have maybe 2 girls with any personality, Jen the witch and Tara the fun girl


...I think that Matty's ideal girl is the cop Michelle to be honest kxk... she has more balls than any of them but in a refined feminine way though... as I said above... he needs a girl that will be his substitute mother and clone of his sister... and mainly... someone that he can feel 'safe' with that will 'protect' him... who better than a cop eh?... lol!... I hope that he ends up with her in the end... she's the only one that seems the most genuine and least 'nutty' and most 'levelled-headed' of them all from what I've seen to be honest lol!... cheers.
 
10 have stuffed up, did they hire much cheaper editors, directors, producers?

It all went horribly wrong last night - focusing on girls who needed topless work to get through uni, when they should have kicked her out for being a BITCH...

And as far as this casual viewer is concerned - they have maybe 2 girls with any personality, Jen the witch and Tara the fun girl
The producers totally stuffed that episode up. There was quite a backlash on twitter at least for the slut shaming. The episode was a total set up by producers too. Also neither Leah or Simone even had the chance to spend much time with Matty and therefore maybe reveal that about themselves. I agree that they should have just focused on Leah being a total bitch, because lets face it, she was picked to cause maximum drama and she definitely delivered.
 
I think Matty did say that it wasn't the stripping that was the deal-breaker but rather the cruelty towards the other girls. But yes, the producers were clearly trying to steer it into "slut-shaming" territory, and should hang their heads in shame for being the muck-rakers they are. And of course they would have known already, it's probably WHY some of the contestants get in rather than despite it.
 
I think Matty did say that it wasn't the stripping that was the deal-breaker but rather the cruelty towards the other girls. But yes, the producers were clearly trying to steer it into "slut-shaming" territory, and should hang their heads in shame for being the muck-rakers they are. And of course they would have known already, it's probably WHY some of the contestants get in rather than despite it.
Absolutely yes to everything you said. Let's face it Leah was not picked because she was considered a good match for Matty. She was picked purely for the drama they expected her to create.
 
Absolutely yes to everything you said. Let's face it Leah was not picked because she was considered a good match for Matty. She was picked purely for the drama they expected her to create.

Yes, and... although Leah did have some control over the way she came across, at the end of the day she is who she is, and was pretty much used by the show, and then spat out when her usefulness was at an end. They have no regard for how she is now going to be hated and ridiculed by complete strangers, not to mention that her business ventures are all pretty much ruined now, for five minutes of tv fame.
 
Maybe the producers realised that Leah was being outshone by jen in the troublemaking role so chose to ditch her first. Jen will go just before home visit dates I reacon. Also it was obvious Leah scared the bejezus out of Matty - she is way more full on than he could deal with and he felt uncomfortable being around her. But they didn't need this storyline to get rid of her.
 
Leah on Her Dramatic Exit From The Bachelor: "Nobody Likes to Be Rejected on TV"
16 August, 2017 by Genevieve Rota
3 Shares The Bachelor on Wednesday night. As to be expected, the 24-year-old Victorian didn't go down without defending herself — and below she answers some of the most pressing questions everyone has had for her over the season.


Read on to find out why she tried to break Simone, why she didn't tell Matty about her past and, perhaps most tellingly, how she feels about leaving the mansion.

What's your favourite memory from the house?

I think leaving [laughs]. No, there were some good ones. Elise's 30th was pretty good. We all got dressed up, had a Coachella party, Alix brought out the face paints and the girls with wine got messy.

Who was the house clown?

Sian and Tara fought that one out, they were such a good pair — but I think Tara takes the crown.

Who had the worst habit?

Sharlene, she was so bloody messy!

What is something the public doesn't know about you?

I have the dirtiest sense of humour so some of my jokes were not suitable for the timeslot. I think that's why I looked like a bitch — and not a funny bitch.

Who do you stay in touch with?

I still talk to Jen on a daily basis. I've spoken to Michelle and Sian a few times, and Sharlene. Monica is one of my best friends.

How does it make you feel when you see the girls saying on camera that you're a mean girl?

I think they are all quite lucky that they kept their bitchiness off camera. I threw caution to the wind and figured, let's just be real. They are lucky theirs didn't come out.

Why did you cry when you found out Matty's sister Kate was going to be spending the day at the house?

Matty and Kate had this cute little hug and I instantly saw me and my brother. We live together and I got really homesick. My brother will laugh that I had a little cry over him!

Why weren't you honest with Kate on the first meet in the house garden?

I was honest with Kate. I told her what I did, that I had done events from polo to bucks parties. Are you going to tell some guy's sister that you used to get your boobs out!? I didn't even know if I liked Matty, so I wasn't going to tell his sister that.

Why did you try and break Simone?

When you get put in a house with 22 girls, you are not going to like everyone. We just drove each other up the wall. Lots of things you don't see, but I think it was a pretty even battle and I think I pushed a little bit harder than she did.

Are you concerned you came across as a bully?

I think that is a bit of my worry. I don't consider myself a bully — I can be a bitch, and I'm open with that. Lots of things weren't shown that would explain why I act the way I act.

You finally came clean to Kate about your business on the date with the kids. You then threw Simone under the bus. Why did you feel the need to involve Simone?

I think that was a bit of clever editing there. At no point did I think it had come from Simone, as I knew that would throw her under the bus as well. It all just came out and once it did it streamrolled and secrets were flying everywhere.

When you confronted the girls in the kitchen, you were quick to think Simone had told Kate about you. Why was this?

I actually never thought Simone told Kate. I was pretty sure that she wouldn't because it would rub back on her. I was fairly sure that Elora has mentioned it, that's just Elora.

Matty was upset that he was the last to know and that you hadn't been honest. Why didn't you tell Matty earlier?

To be honest, I have met people at bars that I know better than Matty. Yeah, I had been on a few dates but you're fighting with other women. I'd had a chat about my family and travel and other than that, I'd spent 10 mins with the dude. I'm not going to air my dirty laundry to someone I don't know if I even like.

When did you plan to tell Matty about your past?

I think I would have told Matty eventually, but why would you tell someone you don't even know?

You then outted Simone to Matty. Why did you do that?

Matty already knew, he asked me who else he should chat to, he gave me a leading question. I probably regret doing that but he knew we had a bit of bad blood. I figured, hell, if I'm going down somebody else can do some explaining.

How did you feel when Matty told you he thought it was best that you left?

To be honest, I was so relieved. I'd been talking to the girls, saying that I was ready to leave. I was tired, I was emotional, I was exhausted. I didn't even think I liked him, so I was ready to leave. But nobody likes to be rejected on TV.

Have you spoken to Simone since you have left?

I have. Simone and I have put water under the bridge and explained why we did what we did. I think we're all good, we're friends now and it's all resolved.

Why did you start topless waitressing? Would you ever do it again?

'Cause I have good boobs [laughs]! I was broke, I was at uni living on my own and my study load was so heavy, I couldn't afford to work massive hours without much income. Would I do it now, probably not. I don't think it's something I could return to. People are judging, and that's a bit harsh. You can go to a beach in Europe and it's everywhere and nobody seems to care too much. Kim Kardashian can post nudes and the world gets behind her.

When was the last time you participated in topless waitressing yourself?

A good 12 months ago.

Image Source: Network Ten

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LOL, but they're all supposed to be in love with him

To be honest, I have met people at bars that I know better than Matty. Yeah, I had been on a few dates but you're fighting with other women. I'd had a chat about my family and travel and other than that, I'd spent 10 mins with the dude. I'm not going to air my dirty laundry to someone I don't know if I even like.
 
Mistake 1: Bringing back Matty J's "oh so superior" sister
Mistake 2: Dragging two women's reputations through the mud (regardless of their trashy pasts)
Mistake 3: Letting Matty J speak. He is morphing into the biggest bore. He might be cute but it's starting to become abundantly clear why he's single. He's a dick.

Quite frankly, I don't care who he picks.

This show is no fun anymore. Bring back Laurina!
 
Yeah I also think they really stuffed up making a big deal out of the topless waitressing. Sure in the end it was hearing about Leah's bullying that sealed the deal for Matty to send her home, but in that case, why not just focus the mean girl behaviour as the main problematic point instead and not waste so much time on their job history? It was disappointing that there appeared to be no target on Jen at all... Matty's sister mentioned her name along with Leah's in regards to them being a nasty clique, which seemed promising, but it basically led to no consequences or further investigation on Jen for the remainder of the episode, which felt quite unfulfilling.
 
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