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The Bachelor Australia 2015

Heather is my favourite, followed by Sarah. But if the Bach does not choose either girl I'm not going to declare a boycott. Sure I'll be annoyed the girls I like aren't there but c'mon this is SAMs choice, not the viewers. At least there is some kind of authenticity in that he chooses I suppose (it's as 'reality' as you expect from a reality show).

And I'm just going to say this... No one really knows who Sam seems most comfortable with, seems more romantically attached to, seems the most in love with or seems the most himself with. The rest is our perception of what we hope the outcome will be. It's a bias perception... Thank goodness for this thread to talk about the bachelor, I feel we are sane (well as sane as one can be)
 
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The Bachelor Australia’s host Osher Gunsberg tells why he felt Rachel was clueless about her lack of connection to Sam

  • 1 hour ago September 04, 2015 12:24PM


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AFTER each episode, we ask The Bachelor’s host-with-the-most to answer five of our burning questions about the show.

Read on for Osher Gunsberg’s take on the future for those Bachelor artworks, the latest on the “originals” vs. “intruders” war and what to expect when home visits start next week on The Bachelor.



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Interpretive Bachelor art ... Currently on display at the MCA, according to Osher Gunsberg. Source: Channel 10

1. What happened to those beautiful sculptures and drawings once the group art date was over?

“I believe they were taken under heavily armed guard to the Museum of Contemporary Art at Circular Quay where they’re now displayed proudly next to some of this country’s foremost sculptors and creators. Clearly Heather and Lana’s interpretation of Sam Wood was something to behold.”



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No clue ... Rachel was unaware of the lack of connection she was forming with Sam Wood. Source: Channel 10

2. Rachel seemed clueless about her lack of connection with Sam. Why do you think that was?

“I think Rachel may have unfortunately suffered a similar fate to Emily in that her whole life she’s never had to approach the man. Her whole life she’s always been the one who is pursued and has never had to do any legwork there. Which was quite evident when she dragged him away to have some one-on-one and he tried to engage her in conversation and there was nothing. I really felt for her because she’s never got a chance to develop those conversational skills — she’s never had to. She did say a few times that she didn’t like sharing. And I was like, ‘Did you know what The Bachelor was when you signed up to the show?’ I remember in 2007 on Australian Idol there was a guy called Marty Simpson who got super upset that he had to sing covers every night. I was like, ‘Why did you audition? You know what this is right? This isn’t the sing your own song show. It says it on the box!’”



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Jealous streak. Snezana told Sam how his connection with Lana made her feel last night. Source: Channel 10

3. Snezana was the first of “the originals” to voice her discontent about “the intruders” to Sam. Were you surprised she was the first to break?
“I was not surprised at all. I thought it was great that she went for him. That was cool. If Nina had gone in it would have just been a tirade of anger. But Snezana was able to articulate it in a very measured way and with great emotional depth and awareness on her behalf. She didn't’ make it mean anything about Sam, she only talked about her emotions about it. She wasn’t projecting onto someone else.”



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Different reactions ... Sarah and Sam’s date didn’t raise the “original” girls’ hackles. Source: Channel 10

4. The “originals” were particularly gleeful to get the first four roses. Was it clever editing or was it that obvious to everyone in the room?

“I would say it was fairly obvious that they were happy. I’m sure Sam saw that. Considering what went down in the hour beforehand it was tension central in that room. And how was the difference between Lana’s arrival home from her single date and Sarah’s arrival? It was brilliant!”

5. Spoil us up for home visits next week Osher!

“This is where Sam and the ladies realise that this is kind of it and they’re both doing their best to see what’s there. It’s fairly evident that once we turn the attention from Sam taking the ladies out, it’s almost like a white rose date times a million when the ladies take him home. But they don’t have control over what their friends and family say to him. Sam goes through the wringer.”
 
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Heather is my favourite, followed by Sarah. But if the Bach does not choose either girl I'm not going to declare a boycott. Sure I'll be annoyed the girls I like aren't there but c'mon this is SAMs choice, not the viewers. At least there is some kind of authenticity in that he chooses I suppose (it's as 'reality' as you expect from a reality show).

And I'm just going to say this... No one really knows who Sam seems most comfortable with, seems more romantically attached to, seems the most in love with or seems the most himself with. The rest is our perception of what we hope the outcome will be. It's a bias perception... Thank goodness for this thread to talk about the bachelor, I feel we are sane (well as sane as one can be)

I also laugh at the criticism levelled at Sam for Heather not getting picked. I find that ridiculous as I do the threats to stop watching.

I do however think the edititors have absolutely screwed themselves over here. It's fairly worrying looking at the comments on SM. For a vast majority of the general fanbase (who don't dig for clues and just watch the show) it doesn't even seem to be an option to them that Heather doesn't win. Now while I never really thought Heather would win because I knew what I did, I can see where that general view has come from watching the edit on the show. The powers that be know that Heather is extremely popular and if you look at the comments from the offical fan pages, from Osher, etc, they do nothing but encourage it.

Now maybe this was all for the shock factor, maybe they realised early on they had a ratings winner with Heather so they continued placing her at the centre of their story...however man, they're setting poor old Sam up to cop it because I don't think most of a show's general fanbase are logical enough to place blame where it should be directed (at the manipulative edititors...not at Sam). I learnt watching BB how much people can be swayed via editing.
 
Yeah if you were going by show only, it's really Heather and nobody else.
So I'm still not completely convinced it's not her, if she's Bachelorette well she'd get huge ratings, so perhaps that's why.
 
Yeah if you were going by show only, it's really Heather and nobody else.
So I'm still not completely convinced it's not her, if she's Bachelorette well she'd get huge ratings, so perhaps that's why.

i thought it was because of her acting background? meaning like she can appear more natural in front of camera? narrate pieces with her actorly voice?

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I also laugh at the criticism levelled at Sam for Heather not getting picked. I find that ridiculous as I do the threats to stop watching.

I do however think the edititors have absolutely screwed themselves over here. It's fairly worrying looking at the comments on SM. For a vast majority of the general fanbase (who don't dig for clues and just watch the show) it doesn't even seem to be an option to them that Heather doesn't win. Now while I never really thought Heather would win because I knew what I did, I can see where that general view has come from watching the edit on the show. The powers that be know that Heather is extremely popular and if you look at the comments from the offical fan pages, from Osher, etc, they do nothing but encourage it.

Now maybe this was all for the shock factor, maybe they realised early on they had a ratings winner with Heather so they continued placing her at the centre of their story...however man, they're setting poor old Sam up to cop it because I don't think most of a show's general fanbase are logical enough to place blame where it should be directed (at the manipulative edititors...not at Sam). I learnt watching BB how much people can be swayed via editing.
Heather was a favourite from the word go. *raises hand lol. I think due to this it was always going to be hard to not see heather win. And it isn't so much the editing in this case, but heather is an extremely likeable character and her charisma has undoubtably crossed over to us fans. What I'm saying is she makes it really easy for us to want her as the winner. We will read more in to it and see more due to that.

Unfortunately this is a type of show you can't vote in and with social media and extreme opinions, people think they can control or demand how things can go. I've even seen things from snezena fans questioning Sam's attraction for Sarah, like trying to break every part of Sarah's time with Sam- everything is a lot more critiqued to make it seem that there isn't a connection. That's not editing, that's people convincing themselves that no one else is right because it isn't the winner they want.
 
I am confused about the edit Heather got that lead to her popularity. Why do it if she doesn't even get that close to the end.

Another thing that I don't get is people saying that Sam lets her go now to avoid her getting more hurt at the end. Should we believe that Sam is allowed to make this choice? Surely the producers control most of what we see.
 
I also laugh at the criticism levelled at Sam for Heather not getting picked. I find that ridiculous as I do the threats to stop watching.

I do however think the edititors have absolutely screwed themselves over here. It's fairly worrying looking at the comments on SM. For a vast majority of the general fanbase (who don't dig for clues and just watch the show) it doesn't even seem to be an option to them that Heather doesn't win. Now while I never really thought Heather would win because I knew what I did, I can see where that general view has come from watching the edit on the show. The powers that be know that Heather is extremely popular and if you look at the comments from the offical fan pages, from Osher, etc, they do nothing but encourage it.

Now maybe this was all for the shock factor, maybe they realised early on they had a ratings winner with Heather so they continued placing her at the centre of their story...however man, they're setting poor old Sam up to cop it because I don't think most of a show's general fanbase are logical enough to place blame where it should be directed (at the manipulative edititors...not at Sam). I learnt watching BB how much people can be swayed via editing.
But yeah the illogical blaming of Sam is just ridiculous. But from what I have read in here, Blake and last years show has created this effect. Sam seems like a reasonable dude and he doesn't deserve the backlash if heather does not win.
 
Unfortunately this is a type of show you can't vote in and with social media and extreme opinions, people think they can control or demand how things can go. I've even seen things from snezena fans questioning Sam's attraction for Sarah, like trying to break every part of Sarah's time with Sam- everything is a lot more critiqued to make it seem that there isn't a connection. That's not editing, that's people convincing themselves that no one else is right because it isn't the winner they want.
I'm glad you said that, people say they saw 'no connection' with him and Sarah and...I dunno...I saw some chemistry there and he certainly enjoys kissing her.
Sarah is under rated.
 
Yeah if you were going by show only, it's really Heather and nobody else.
So I'm still not completely convinced it's not her, if she's Bachelorette well she'd get huge ratings, so perhaps that's why.
but by the time the Bachelorette rolls around next season people will have moved on and forgotten all about Heather and she'll be back into her normal life AND she's supposedly already said she would have second thoughts on doing anything like this ever again ...

Sarah is under-rated because there's just a little bit of awkward in there between them ... but last night's date was a huge improvement ... what a shame they got sujected to an opera singer though! 2nd only to an untuned violin or bagpipes ....

how can you be moved by that when 1. you don't know the story of the opera and 2. you can't understand a word they are saying ... so are you moved by their wringing hands, their wiggling eyebrows, their facial expressions (which on the high notes and low notes can be kinda awks) ... I just don't get that at all

oh and I googled to find out if it was a love song ... this is from wikipedia but I couldn't be bothered looking anywhere else ... its opera ... *yawn*

"O mio babbino caro" ("Oh My Beloved Father") is a soprano aria from the opera Gianni Schicchi (1918) by Giacomo Puccini to a libretto by Giovacchino Forzano. It is sung by Lauretta after tensions between her father Schicchi and the family of Rinuccio, the boy she loves, have reached a breaking point that threatens to separate her from Rinuccio. It provides an interlude expressing lyrical simplicity and single-hearted love in contrast with the atmosphere of hypocrisy, jealousy, double-dealing, and feuding in the medieval Florence of Puccini's only comedy
 
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Yeah if you were going by show only, it's really Heather and nobody else.
So I'm still not completely convinced it's not her, if she's Bachelorette well she'd get huge ratings, so perhaps that's why.

Even if they wanted Heather as Bachelorette though (and tbh given her comments I don't think she'd want it anyway) I still think they've completely messed up and there's going to be a bit of a shit storm. I agree with @Sweetgeek that a lot of people just find her genuinely likeable and as a result it would be hard to give her a bad edit anyway. However I think it was probably a big mistake focussing so heavily on her vulnerability and how she'd fallen for Sam. It's really not going to go down well showing the fan favourite put herself out there like that emotionally only to get booted off a couple of episodes later. And you can guarantee that Sam will be the one that cops the brunt of it too when he's done nothing wrong. It's kind of a giant mess lol.
 
but by the time the Bachelorette rolls around next season people will have moved on and forgotten all about Heather and she'll be back into her normal life AND she's supposedly already said she would have second thoughts on doing anything like this ever again ...

Sarah is under-rated because there's just a little bit of awkward in there between them ... but last night's date was a huge improvement ... what a shame they got sujected to an opera singer though! 2nd only to an untuned violin or bagpipes ....
Do not give them ideas!

Imagine them reading this and be like yep let's do that! I won't deal
 
How important is this 'chemistry' and 'connection' in terms of building a stable long term relationship? Which I suppose is the aim of this show. For people to hopefully find something long terms like marriage and maybe kids?

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Even if they wanted Heather as Bachelorette though (and tbh given her comments I don't think she'd want it anyway) I still think they've completely messed up and there's going to be a bit of a shit storm. I agree with @Sweetgeek that a lot of people just find her genuinely likeable and as a result it would be hard to give her a bad edit anyway. However I think it was probably a big mistake focussing so heavily on her vulnerability and how she'd fallen for Sam. It's really not going to go down well showing the fan favourite put herself out there like that emotionally only to get booted off a couple of episodes later. And you can guarantee that Sam will be the one that cops the brunt of it too when he's done nothing wrong. It's kind of a giant mess lol.
She won't do bachelorette?
 
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