Big Brother UK season 15 - SPOILERS

[Lindsay1973]

...I picked up on that too Lindsay... it seems to be too much of a coincidence to me that his ex is now being mentioned when it wasn't before... it might explain why Ash and Helen took to each other instantly wouldn't it?... when Helen knew that she was going into the house surely she would've been spouting on about it enough for even Ash's ex to realise that Ash and Helen were going into the same place wouldn't she?... something sneaky about the whole thing is going on as far as I'm concerned... cheers.

It does they are way too comfortable in their company and maybe they needed someone with a Vanilla personality to keep her in line.Volatile people usually need a calm partner to keep them not sure of the right word balanced,in-line

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Oh course not Mr Sticky you brought up some valid points and made me re-think about her change and how real it is.This is the trouble with not having live feeds.Bad behaviour doesnt get you far in life you carry on until someone repays you in kind or teaches you a lesson...Pauline and steve and the like will get whats coming to them if they continue with their bad behaviour..edit Oh wait Pauline already did she had to move

...oh ok Lindsay that's cool!... yeah Pauline did get her come-uppence in the end didn't she?... (people kept putting dog pooh through her front door letter box)... I'm amazed that these people don't think of the repercussions of their actions while they are actually inside the house ... surely they are aware that they are constantly under the microscope all of the time?... amazing!... cheers.

 

[Lindsay1973]

...oh ok Lindsay that's cool!... yeah Pauline did get her come-uppence in the end didn't she?... (people kept putting dog pooh through her front door letter box)... I'm amazed that these people don't think of the repercussions of their actions while they are actually inside the house ... surely they are aware that they are constantly under the microscope all of the time?... amazing!... cheers.

Haha Poo-lene

 

[Mercy]

Well they have to get celebs for Rylan to look up to don't they..gag!! Her hairdo was so stupid how the hell does she see like that

Haha, I think having people for Rylan to fawn over is quite possibly the ONLY reason some of these guests make an appearance - having someone acknowledge them in such a big way must be a good ego stroke for them too. They can't keep bringing Jackie Travers on the show, or people will get suspicious...

 

[bleachy_dude]

Yeah I've been wondering about how a BOTS show could work in Australia. Plenty of D-List celebrities and nine personalities to fill a roster, however probably not enough who actually watch the show and could make any sort of meaningful contributions.

 

[Yuame]

To be honest this series is boring now I have not watched any of the episodes fully since steven left.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

It does they are way too comfortable in their company and maybe they needed someone with a Vanilla personality to keep her in line.Volatile people usually need a calm partner to keep them not sure of the right word balanced,in-line

...I'm just wondering whether BBUK were aware of the connection from the get go?... I'm guessing that they didn't and have had Louisa go there to incorporate the connection into the chain of events in a subtle way by slipping it into the piece as a... "oh!... and by the way" type of 'coincidence' so that the public and media don't scoop onto it and cry 'foul'... by exposing it themselves it looks like it was pure chance rather by design... just imagine if Ash and Helen have conspired together to double their chances of pulling off the main prize?... two shots at the money so to speak?...

...if it was Helen and Ash left in the final then they have it either way regardless?... but it reality... what are the chances that they were both going to be picked in the first place I guess?... anyhow... something to think about though... we may as well add to the other 10 million conspiracy theories eh?... lol!... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Haha Poo-lene

...... funny funny funny!... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Haha, I think having people for Rylan to fawn over is quite possibly the ONLY reason some of these guests make an appearance - having someone acknowledge them in such a big way must be a good ego stroke for them too. They can't keep bringing Jackie Travers on the show, or people will get suspicious...

...when people like Pauline/Toya and Helen get evicted... instead of bringing on Z-Grade ex celebs to ask them stupid dumb boring questions they should be bringing on the relatives of the people that are being bullied by them while they are in the house to answer for their 'crimes' against their loved ones!... they would be merciless in their questioning... a couple of years of doing just this would discourage most of them doing it in future seasons for fear of having to face the relatives in the first place as far as I'm concerned...

Yeah I've been wondering about how a BOTS show could work in Australia. Plenty of D-List celebrities and nine personalities to fill a roster, however probably not enough who actually watch the show and could make any sort of meaningful contributions.

... AUSBOTS would be a great concept!... I'd love it!... but only bring on ex housemates and former hosts (Gretel) from seasons past to comment on the show... that way we can re-love and re-hate those housemates... it would be great!... have people like Tim Brunero etc have turns in hosting it... perhaps it would be fun?...

To be honest this series is boring now I have not watched any of the episodes fully since steven left.

...lol!... I've watched it with a lot more happiness since 'open it!' left lol!... it's not a creep-fest all of the time now... (although my hero Chris gave the creep factor a good nudge today)... you don't know what you're missing my friend... besides... I always liked your insightful observations of what was going on inside the house Yuame... you should watch it again just to keep Uncle Sticky happy at least with those observations of yours if nothing else!... lol!... cheers.

 

[camerashy1]

...when people like Pauline/Toya and Helen get evicted... instead of bringing on Z-Grade ex celebs to ask them stupid dumb boring questions they should be bringing on the relatives of the people that are being bullied by them while they are in the house to answer for their 'crimes' against their loved ones!... they would be merciless in their questioning... a couple of years of doing just this would discourage most of them doing it in future seasons for fear of having to face the relatives in the first place as far as I'm concerned...



... AUSBOTS would be a great concept!... I'd love it!... but only bring on ex housemates and former hosts (Gretel) from seasons past to comment on the show... that way we can re-love and re-hate those housemates... it would be great!... have people like Tim Brunero etc have turns in hosting it... perhaps it would be fun?...



...lol!... I've watched it with a lot more happiness since 'open it!' left lol!... it's not a creep-fest all of the time now... (although my hero Chris gave the creep factor a good nudge today)... you don't know what you're missing my friend... besides... I always liked your insightful observations of what was going on inside the house Yuame... you should watch it again just to keep Uncle Sticky happy at least with those observations of yours if nothing else!... lol!... cheers.

if you could, would you go on AUSBOTS yourself? you would be so good at asking all the questions, and more, and i love your enthusiasm, such a buzz

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

if you could, would you go on AUSBOTS yourself? you would be so good at asking all the questions, and more, and i love your enthusiasm, such a buzz

...haha!... thanks camerashy... such kind words... bloody oath I would!!!!... I'd have a great time on it and would show what the public are REALLY saying about them and would get every artwork from this forums 'Photoshop Thread' each night to show them lol!... I would have immense pleasure in showing my own stuff to them lol!... I've often wondered if ex-housemates have slid onto here under the radar to see what we did to them through out the season... if I was one of them I should would be lol!...

...as I said in my post above... instead of Z-Grade personalities coming onto the show to question them I would bring on the relatives of their victims to ask them the questions... yep!... I definitely would do the show lol!... cheers.

 

[camerashy1]

...haha!... thanks camerashy... such kind words... bloody oath I would!!!!... I'd have a great time on it and would show what the public are REALLY saying about them and would get every artwork from this forums 'Photoshop Thread' each night to show them lol!... I would have immense pleasure in showing my own stuff to them lol!... I've often wondered if ex-housemates have slid onto here under the radar to see what we did to them through out the season... if i was one of them I should would be lol!...

...as I said in my post above... instead of Z-Grade personalities coming onto the show to question them I would bring on the relatives of their victims to ask them the questions... yep!... I definitely would do the show lol!... cheers.

i don't know about the relatives, it could get too intense as they are close to the HM, but you are not, haha

i would love to see you team you up with Tim B, and/or Vesna, dreadlocks Paul, Nobbi. my mind is blank as to think of anyone from the last 2 years who would really care about asking questions or giving an opinion without it being diplomatic. throw in some psychologists and body language people that are a bit themselves, you would enjoy that

would anybody else want to go on AUSBOTS? lucky i am not asking this on FB

 

[nutmeg]

I would love an AUSBOTS, with ex HMs and genuine fans on the panel. I'm sure UKBOTS often has guests who have only watched that night's episode in the green room and don't have a clue. And I've never understood why they don't make more use of ex HMs.

Remember we used to have a BOTS type show hosted by Tim Ferguson. And the Friday Night Games with Fitzy and Bree used to have the latest evictee on and they would ask them a few questions. Time we had another after show.

But I don't think it is the job of the after show to try and make the evictees see the error of their ways. For one, we all know BB is edited so who's to say that we have gotten the full story about a person's behaviour. Plus it just sounds a bit too much to me, shaming someone for not behaving how 'we' think they should, and making the show judge, jury and executioner. If they have been a complete idiot, each HM will get a hard enough time from other media and the public, so BB needs to be supportive, not push them over the edge. It's just an entertainment program, not a reconditioning camp.

The winner of 2011 is quite vocal about the potential damage to contestants' mental health appearing on BB can cause, and hence he never appears on BOTS, they wouldn't want him and he wouldn't want to be there. But he reckons that there were four suicide attempts by contestants from his year. I can recall there was another suicide attempt that hit the news from a previous season (Sree) so it is a delicate situation, and BOTS would be well aware that they have a duty of care. There have probably been other incidents and there is likely to be some depression amongst some of the other 150 or so ex HMs.

So while we might enjoy seeing hated contestants being properly grilled, I don't think it is as simple as that.

 

[camerashy1]

I would love an AUSBOTS, with ex HMs and genuine fans on the panel. I'm sure UKBOTS often has guests who have only watched that night's episode in the green room and don't have a clue. And I've never understood why they don't make more use of ex HMs.

Remember we used to have a BOTS type show hosted by Tim Ferguson. And the Friday Night Games with Fitzy and Bree used to have the latest evictee on and they would ask them a few questions. Time we had another after show.

But I don't think it is the job of the after show to try and make the evictees see the error of their ways. For one, we all know BB is edited so who's to say that we have gotten the full story about a person's behaviour. Plus it just sounds a bit too much to me, shaming someone for not behaving how 'we' think they should, and making the show judge, jury and executioner. If they have been a complete idiot, each HM will get a hard enough time from other media and the public, so BB needs to be supportive, not push them over the edge. It's just an entertainment program, not a reconditioning camp.

The winner of 2011 is quite vocal about the potential damage to contestants' mental health appearing on BB can cause, and hence he never appears on BOTS, they wouldn't want him and he wouldn't want to be there. But he reckons that there were four suicide attempts by contestants from his year. I can recall there was another suicide attempt that hit the news from a previous season (Sree) so it is a delicate situation, and BOTS would be well aware that they have a duty of care. There have probably been other incidents and there is likely to be some depression amongst some of the other 150 or so ex HMs.

So while we might enjoy seeing hated contestants being properly grilled, I don't think it is as simple as that.

 

[nutmeg]

I think the show left out an interesting Pav storyline tonight. He obviously said something to Mark about his ridiculous argument with Christopher, and we saw Mark in the DR denying being nasty. So why didn't we see Pav confront him? (or did I miss it)

There was this clip below from the main site, which shows some of the fallout. But with nearly everyone complaining about how boring Pav is, seeing him confront Mark would have been pretty interesting.

 

[camerashy1]

I would love an AUSBOTS, with ex HMs and genuine fans on the panel. I'm sure UKBOTS often has guests who have only watched that night's episode in the green room and don't have a clue. And I've never understood why they don't make more use of ex HMs.

Remember we used to have a BOTS type show hosted by Tim Ferguson. And the Friday Night Games with Fitzy and Bree used to have the latest evictee on and they would ask them a few questions. Time we had another after show.

But I don't think it is the job of the after show to try and make the evictees see the error of their ways. For one, we all know BB is edited so who's to say that we have gotten the full story about a person's behaviour. Plus it just sounds a bit too much to me, shaming someone for not behaving how 'we' think they should, and making the show judge, jury and executioner. If they have been a complete idiot, each HM will get a hard enough time from other media and the public, so BB needs to be supportive, not push them over the edge. It's just an entertainment program, not a reconditioning camp.

The winner of 2011 is quite vocal about the potential damage to contestants' mental health appearing on BB can cause, and hence he never appears on BOTS, they wouldn't want him and he wouldn't want to be there. But he reckons that there were four suicide attempts by contestants from his year. I can recall there was another suicide attempt that hit the news from a previous season (Sree) so it is a delicate situation, and BOTS would be well aware that they have a duty of care. There have probably been other incidents and there is likely to be some depression amongst some of the other 150 or so ex HMs.

So while we might enjoy seeing hated contestants being properly grilled, I don't think it is as simple as that.

i wrote a lot but was timed out, don't you hate that? yes i agree, but how could they not warm to @Mr Stickyfingers, they offend in the most charming way

 

[MADONNA]

I even like Helen

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

I would love an AUSBOTS, with ex HMs and genuine fans on the panel. I'm sure UKBOTS often has guests who have only watched that night's episode in the green room and don't have a clue. And I've never understood why they don't make more use of ex HMs.

Remember we used to have a BOTS type show hosted by Tim Ferguson. And the Friday Night Games with Fitzy and Bree used to have the latest evictee on and they would ask them a few questions. Time we had another after show.

But I don't think it is the job of the after show to try and make the evictees see the error of their ways. For one, we all know BB is edited so who's to say that we have gotten the full story about a person's behaviour. Plus it just sounds a bit too much to me, shaming someone for not behaving how 'we' think they should, and making the show judge, jury and executioner. If they have been a complete idiot, each HM will get a hard enough time from other media and the public, so BB needs to be supportive, not push them over the edge. It's just an entertainment program, not a reconditioning camp.

The winner of 2011 is quite vocal about the potential damage to contestants' mental health appearing on BB can cause, and hence he never appears on BOTS, they wouldn't want him and he wouldn't want to be there. But he reckons that there were four suicide attempts by contestants from his year. I can recall there was another suicide attempt that hit the news from a previous season (Sree) so it is a delicate situation, and BOTS would be well aware that they have a duty of care. There have probably been other incidents and there is likely to be some depression amongst some of the other 150 or so ex HMs.

So while we might enjoy seeing hated contestants being properly grilled, I don't think it is as simple as that.

... yeah... I do understand that Big Brother have a duty of care Nutmeg... I was saying about getting the relatives in to cross examine them to hold them accountable for their crimes while saying it with my tongue firmly planted in cheek at the time (plus a couple of nice rums in my belly lol!)... I do understand too that they naturally get punished by the ongoing media circus and public once they are outside of the house... (Pauline being a prime example)... which makes me wonder as to why they go into the house and become the monsters that they do in the first place...

...surely they have read about the attempts at suicide by ex-housemates because of the fallout of their behaviour within the house?... you would be naturally thinking about the consequences of your actions while in there surely?... I know that I would... I know that people like Winston are fully aware of stuff like this and because of it he is flying under the radar and is remaining popular with the public and viewers...

...some people would say that because you are in the house it's like being under a microscope and that tensions and conflict are heightened a lot more because of it but that doesn't excuse their behaviour to me... they know what they are getting into... they know the consequences of their behaviour will be scrutinised yet they still do what they do regardless... I must admit... that still baffles me to this day!...

...if I was in there I would be a lot like Ash in the way that he says 'I can't do that because what would my mum say about that and how would she be with me about it after that?'... that alone would be my own moral guideline alone to keep myself in check... (in my case it would be my wife being that my mum is no longer with us)... but yeah...

...you are right... Big Brother does have a duty of care to these people but they should be pulling them into line while they are being bastards towards the weaker housemates and not having to take care of it when they get out... one good thing about Alex in BBAUS is that if something is getting out of hand he will step in and seperate the housemates in the heat of the moment... why don't they do that in the BBUK house?... it's got me beat for sure?...

...speaking of the differences between BBUK and BBAUS... when the UK housemates give their reasons in the Diary Room as to why they are nominating so and so... have you noticed that Big Brother doesn't question them as to why or say that the excuse for the nomination isn't good enough?... at least Alex ups them if it's a piss poor excuse... did they ever hold their piss poor excuses up to account in the early days of BBAUS on Channel 10?... I can't remember... is it a something that came in towards the end of the Channel 10 run or has it been like that since day one?...

...to me BBUK hardly follow the original format of Big Brother as Australia does at all a lot of the time but from what I remember our version seems more close to the original concept even though the storylines are scripted to suit the weeney boppers and family orientated demographic... or is it just me?... this is my first season watching BBUK so the differences in culture are probably a lot more pronounced to me I guess lol!... let's just say... it's been quite an education for me for sure lol!... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

I think the show left out an interesting Pav storyline tonight. He obviously said something to Mark about his ridiculous argument with Christopher, and we saw Mark in the DR denying being nasty. So why didn't we see Pav confront him? (or did I miss it)

There was this clip below from the main site, which shows some of the fallout. But with nearly everyone complaining about how boring Pav is, seeing him confront Mark would have been pretty interesting.

...I would love for Pav to stand his ground a bit more to all of the housemates like that... Mark is a self absorbed idiot... saying that he's not a nasty person and all of the others pandering up to him by saying he isn't either gives me the irrits big time... what's Pav got to lose?... if he really thinks that he's going out on Friday (please let it be Zoe) then why not go out with a bang rather than a whimper?... I'd stand up and argue my point across just so that there's something interesting to show on my exit video if nothing less... he is a psychology student or whatever... why not put that to use and give the other housemates more insecurities and paranoia to stew upon after he has left?... I know that I would... but then again... I am an evil bastard sometimes when I want to be lol! ... cheers.

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

Mr Stickyfingers said: ↑
I even like Helen

...hmmmm!... it looks like the 'more than these two now!!!!!'... bit got lost in the post somewhere lol!... you're a naughty naughty girl Madonna... you should be spanked!... lol!... cheers.