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Big Brother UK season 15 - SPOILERS

...I really do have to ask... on BBBOTS they are saying stuff like... 'it looks like Zoe is now falling under Steven's spell'... type of stuff... they are talking as if he has this sort of charismatic Svengali type of person that has a bewitching type of spell over any woman that comes into his circle... BBUK have really been pushing this angle with Steven for the past few weeks now... well... my question is this...

...are there ANY of you sweet ladies within these forums that find Steven to be the remotest part of being 'a handsome and good looking man' or that he has any or all of the traits that I described above?... do any of you think that he charismatic at all?...

...this really has me stumped... I cannot... (as a male)... see that any woman could possibly find any of those traits within him at all... so ladies... is there a single one of you that have fallen under his 'spell'?:confused:... if not... why not?:confused:... cheers. :)
 
As a sweet lady (thanks sticky) I have zero interest in 2ss. I find him arrogant, annoying and a tall poppy that is way over due to be cut down. I can see why some people may think he is charismatic, he does have a lot of confidence, but it's like he has way too much which is a massive turn off.
If anything I find Chris way more attractive (hence why he is my fav HM). Chris is just like a normal guy.

I think the scene that you are referring to is when Zoe is sitting in the kitchen listening to 2ss talk about himself. I think the people on BOTs have it wrong, Zoe just seemed to me at least to be listening to him and letting him do what he does best which is talk and talk and talk about himself.
 
Mr Stickyfingers said:
...I really do have to ask... on BBBOTS they are saying stuff like... 'it looks like Zoe is now falling under Steven's spell'... type of stuff... they are talking as if he has this sort of charismatic Svengali type of person that has a bewitching type of spell over any woman that comes into his circle... BBUK have really been pushing this angle with Steven for the past few weeks now... well... my question is this...

...are there ANY of you sweet ladies within these forums that find Steven to be the remotest part of being 'a handsome and good looking man' or that he has any or all of the traits that I described above?... do any of you think that he charismatic at all?...

...this really has me stumped... I cannot... (as a male)... see that any woman could possibly find any of those traits within him at all... so ladies... is there a single one of you that have fallen under his 'spell'?:confused:... if not... why not?:confused:... cheers. :)
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As a female the answer is no,no ways,nope,nada.....he is horrible looking,has weird legs,disgusting the way he looks when he speaks,his face makes me want to throw bricks at it....so nope zero chemistry,charisma or anything remotely attractive about him..I would kiss a frog before him that's for sure
 
Lindsay1973 said:
As a female the answer is no,no ways,nope,nada.....he is horrible looking,has weird legs,disgusting the way he looks when he speaks,his face makes me want to throw bricks at it....so nope zero chemistry,charisma or anything remotely attractive about him..I would kiss a frog before him that's for sure
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THANK you, he does!

Still would tho *shrug*
 
the Theorist said:
On another note, did anyone else notice how SILENT the entire live audience was during Danielle's eviction interview?

They were literally dead quiet the whole time. They were actually respectful for like the first time I've ever seen, haha.
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They were noticably quiet for Matthew and Jale too. In Matthew's they only piped up to boo for Ashleigh. I think it's a sign that for the past 3 weeks we have been losing very good housemates. They haven't really been the ones people wanted out - personally, the past 3 evictees, excluding Marlon have all been some of my favourites.

Yuame said:
I seriously loved Danielle on BBBots tonight. Her reasons for why she didn't talk or show some of the things related to her "job" was commendable and I really think she has handled herself remarkable well in explaining herself and showing who she is.
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She's doing so well. Emma commented on BOTS yesterday how she was so nervous, and shaking like a leaf, but when it came to the interviews it didn't really show and I thought she came across quite confident. I'm now convinced that we did actually see the real Danielle in the house. Some of the things she has done for money and to further her modelling career are quite hypocritical, but I do feel like she is who she says she is. I'm still really pissed about how she was evicted, how Kim couldn't still have been evicted while outside the house and how Kimberly walked instead of returning, making the whole thing one big exercise in futility. We lost another brilliant housemate and it wasn't necessary. All the interference this series has not improved a thing, and on the contrary has ruined an otherwise promising show. I'm convinced that Matthew, Jale and Danielle would still be in the house if this series had held back on the relentless meddling with nominations and evictions.

We would have likely been rid of Ash or Steven the week Toya went, Toya the week Matthew went, Marlon the week Jale went and Ash/Steven when Danielle went. The house at this point would have been Kimberly, Danielle, Matthew, Jale, Ashleigh, Helen, Winston, Mark, Chris and Christopher, with probably Danielle, Ashleigh or Matthew out next. No newbies required. That would have been a perfect series, but all the meddling completely threw the eviction order out of whack. When the spectacle of all these gimmicks becomes more important than the housemates themselves, it's the symptom of a dying show.

Not related, but does anybody else get the feeling we are going to see Mark evicted before the final? A lot of people are getting sick of his playing up to the cameras - he's quite clearly aware of them and will alter his behaviour to fall in line with what he believes will please the audience. He's a real people pleaser. Though I think that part of it is because he wants to win, I feel it has more to do with a need to feel accepted and validated by people. I do recall that despite placing him among my "liked" housemates, objectively he wasn't too likable that first week with Pauline in the house. His attitude changed noticably when he heard the boos for her and cheers for Jale. He suddenly turned into this very diplomatic being. He made efforts to make friends with the less liked housemates, and he was not afraid to criticize or call out his friends on their shitty behaviour, always with the assurance that "you're one of mah good mates in 'ere" if it was done to their face so as to not become disliked by the people in the house either. If I was into betting, I'd be putting some money on him the next time he's up without the likes of Pav or Steven there to serve as eviction shields, because if he's up against Chris, Christopher and Winston, he probably won't survive. If he's up against Ashleigh, he might survive - but I get the feeling he'd become the target of a Jale style eviction campaign in order to save her.

Predicted eviction order from here on: Steven, Pav, Ash, Mark, Zoe, Helen, Winston, Christopher, Ashleigh, Chris.
Would love either Christopher, Ashleigh or Chris to win. Mark would be an acceptable winner, Winston would be predictable and boring, but not horrible. Imagine Helen winning though - she's picking up fans, and people can't ever vote to evict her. I actually wouldn't mind her winning - it'd be completely unexpected and hilarious, and the backlash would be amusing.
 
2SS's attractiveness is hard to judge when you think he's creepy, but ... while he's nothing like my type, I think he looks ok-ish.

As for his charisma levels, several of the HMs have said he asks you a lot of questions, which is often nice, but then Chris said he doesn't listen to the answers. So I imagine he can make good early impressions, which go downhill as you get to know him more. Normally when you meet someone you haven't just watched a VT that says they've screwed over their parents, so most of us thought he was an idiot from the beginning.

But he talks so much, and mostly about himself, and that is hard to overlook. Though girl's like Kim obviously like his 'I know everything' attitude.

Lindsay1973 said:
has weird legs
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His feet point out when he walks, especially down stairs. No big deal, just saying.
 
Mercy said:
They were noticably quiet for Matthew and Jale too. In Matthew's they only piped up to boo for Ashleigh. I think it's a sign that for the past 3 weeks we have been losing very good housemates. They haven't really been the ones people wanted out - personally, the past 3 evictees, excluding Marlon have all been some of my favourites.



She's doing so well. Emma commented on BOTS yesterday how she was so nervous, and shaking like a leaf, but when it came to the interviews it didn't really show and I thought she came across quite confident. I'm now convinced that we did actually see the real Danielle in the house. Some of the things she has done for money and to further her modelling career are quite hypocritical, but I do feel like she is who she says she is. I'm still really pissed about how she was evicted, how Kim couldn't still have been evicted while outside the house and how Kimberly walked instead of returning, making the whole thing one big exercise in futility. We lost another brilliant housemate and it wasn't necessary. All the interference this series has not improved a thing, and on the contrary has ruined an otherwise promising show. I'm convinced that Matthew, Jale and Danielle would still be in the house if this series had held back on the relentless meddling with nominations and evictions.

We would have likely been rid of Ash or Steven the week Toya went, Toya the week Matthew went, Marlon the week Jale went and Ash/Steven when Danielle went. The house at this point would have been Kimberly, Danielle, Matthew, Jale, Ashleigh, Helen, Winston, Mark, Chris and Christopher, with probably Danielle, Ashleigh or Matthew out next. No newbies required. That would have been a perfect series, but all the meddling completely threw the eviction order out of whack. When the spectacle of all these gimmicks becomes more important than the housemates themselves, it's the symptom of a dying show.

Not related, but does anybody else get the feeling we are going to see Mark evicted before the final? A lot of people are getting sick of his playing up to the cameras - he's quite clearly aware of them and will alter his behaviour to fall in line with what he believes will please the audience. He's a real people pleaser. Though I think that part of it is because he wants to win, I feel it has more to do with a need to feel accepted and validated by people. I do recall that despite placing him among my "liked" housemates, objectively he wasn't too likable that first week with Pauline in the house. His attitude changed noticably when he heard the boos for her and cheers for Jale. He suddenly turned into this very diplomatic being. He made efforts to make friends with the less liked housemates, and he was not afraid to criticize or call out his friends on their shitty behaviour, always with the assurance that "you're one of mah good mates in 'ere" if it was done to their face so as to not become disliked by the people in the house either. If I was into betting, I'd be putting some money on him the next time he's up without the likes of Pav or Steven there to serve as eviction shields, because if he's up against Chris, Christopher and Winston, he probably won't survive. If he's up against Ashleigh, he might survive - but I get the feeling he'd become the target of a Jale style eviction campaign in order to save her.

Predicted eviction order from here on: Steven, Pav, Ash, Mark, Zoe, Helen, Winston, Christopher, Ashleigh, Chris.
Would love either Christopher, Ashleigh or Chris to win. Mark would be an acceptable winner, Winston would be predictable and boring, but not horrible. Imagine Helen winning though - she's picking up fans, and people can't ever vote to evict her. I actually wouldn't mind her winning - it'd be completely unexpected and hilarious, and the backlash would be amusing.
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For me, Mark's saving grace regarding him jumping ship after hearing Pauline's boos was that he did actually start to voice his dislike for Pauline's behaviour a few days before he heard it, though he said it to other people, not to Pauline herself. I'm still suspicious as to how genuine he is, but if he's not genuine he's playing a reasonably good game.
 
I'd want to wrap duct tape around his mouth so that ANYONE could possibly get a word in edgewise with him AND have their opinions actually heard ...
he comes across as an arrogant a$$ and I wouldn't give him the time of day ... he doesn't need the money but wants the experience ... well Mr 2SStevieboy you WILL be forever remembered as the creepy stalker guy who was so cringeworthy in the house - quite possibly manic ... AND well ... underwhelmingly quick off the drawer ;)

its a real turnoff to hear only about what a guy owns, what a guy does, what a guy drives, what a guy has in his bank account and what a guy thinks on every single subject on a very repetitive (to the point of browbeating) loop ...

he'd bore me to tears in the first 15 mins ... so he'd never get to show off his 2SStevieboy talents :D
 
crimmy said:
he comes across as an arrogant a$$ and I wouldn't give him the time of day ... he doesn't need the money but wants the experience ...
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What was that crap he said to Pav about if Pav had bothered to ask him about pissing the winnings up on fireworks he’d have found out that 2SS was going to team up with a charity to turn 100 grand into 300 grand so everyone can enjoy the fireworks. WTF?!?

What kind of charity thinks everyone has a right to fireworks?
 
Consuela said:
Is anyone else worried that if Kim is indeed preggers that she may be carrying the Antichrist?

Like this is legit fear I have.

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...and they thought Rosemarie's Baby was an abomination :(
 
Just hang on a cotton picking minute.. at the end of yesterdays daily show 2SS was in the diary room waxing lyrical about himself as per usual wahh wahhh blahh blahh about he thought he was going to be evicted more wahh blahh.. but then he said, "I even wrote Kim a letter telling her how much I love her" & more boring shit. Erm.. I thought HM's weren't allowed to write anything?

So, the new housemates left a note on the mirror with lipstick on the first night & now 2SS has written a letter to Kim.

Big Brother... I am disappoint.
 
Mr Stickyfingers said:
...I really do have to ask... on BBBOTS they are saying stuff like... 'it looks like Zoe is now falling under Steven's spell'... type of stuff... they are talking as if he has this sort of charismatic Svengali type of person that has a bewitching type of spell over any woman that comes into his circle... BBUK have really been pushing this angle with Steven for the past few weeks now... well... my question is this...

...are there ANY of you sweet ladies within these forums that find Steven to be the remotest part of being 'a handsome and good looking man' or that he has any or all of the traits that I described above?... do any of you think that he charismatic at all?...

...this really has me stumped... I cannot... (as a male)... see that any woman could possibly find any of those traits within him at all... so ladies... is there a single one of you that have fallen under his 'spell'?:confused:... if not... why not?:confused:... cheers. :)
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He looks like he would smell like sausage. I don't know why.. but when I look at him I think he would smell like sausage? Ew.

He reminds me of Mr. Potato Head without the moustache.
 
Mr Stickyfingers said:
...I really do have to ask... on BBBOTS they are saying stuff like... 'it looks like Zoe is now falling under Steven's spell'... type of stuff... they are talking as if he has this sort of charismatic Svengali type of person that has a bewitching type of spell over any woman that comes into his circle... BBUK have really been pushing this angle with Steven for the past few weeks now... well... my question is this...

...are there ANY of you sweet ladies within these forums that find Steven to be the remotest part of being 'a handsome and good looking man' or that he has any or all of the traits that I described above?... do any of you think that he charismatic at all?...

...this really has me stumped... I cannot... (as a male)... see that any woman could possibly find any of those traits within him at all... so ladies... is there a single one of you that have fallen under his 'spell'?:confused:... if not... why not?:confused:... cheers. :)
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I categorically deny that I am a Lady. So, I'm not really qualified to respond to this poll.

However... it seemed to me that one of the panellists on BOTS (I think it was Vanessa), thought that Steven fancied Zoe as another 'earpiece' because she was a good listener. I remember this because it kinda made sense.
Kim was a good listener - her motivation for being a good listener was probably a different one - though the fact remains that what Steven requires is someone who listens to him ... patiently... all the time.

Not sure anybody mentioned 'Steven's spell' - but I might have missed that. If they really come up with crap like that, then they're really angling for attention. :arghh:
 
nutmeg said:
For me, Mark's saving grace regarding him jumping ship after hearing Pauline's boos was that he did actually start to voice his dislike for Pauline's behaviour a few days before he heard it, though he said it to other people, not to Pauline herself. I'm still suspicious as to how genuine he is, but if he's not genuine he's playing a reasonably good game.
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He is not genuine at all, he has no concept of genuineness. I agree with you on the 'reasonably' good game... but only just. He seems to have lost some of his youthful exuberance. Maybe his eyebrow tweezers broke. :woot:
 
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