marksman
Used Kombi Salesman
Yes. Doing anything other than bitch about others is bad.
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Yes. Doing anything other than bitch about others is bad.
marksman
Used Kombi Salesman
Your ridiculous and unsupported implication is Estelle does mean and bad stuff to other people.
Your claim of people blindly defending Estelle is without basis when you can not cite anything she has done to warrant the in house aggression towards her.
You clearly imply Estelle does bad things thus should not be viewed as a victim. Yet you and I and everyone else knows that is not true.
marksman
Used Kombi Salesman
Fair enough. Do you attempt suicide when Stacey is on the screen because she does all those things one hundred magnitudes brighter. If Estelle makes you leave the room then Stacey must inspire massive destruction or self mutilation.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Ooooo Emmmm Geeeeeee. Do you have a CD I can buy?? Best. Rap. Evah!!!
Well said.
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Portillo
Guest
Fair enough.
BootsAlice
Member
haha! Suicide? No. Extreme much?
It's interesting about Stacey and the magnitude thing. I guess because I expect that from her... she always has her mask on. I roll my eyes and wish she would be a little less over the top sometimes, but she entertains me. From Estelle, it just feels feigned to me.
Sorceress
..Bow Down To Thee..
Yeah I dunno I'd prefer those in a mate rather than a bitchy, manipulative queen but thats just me.
That's the true beauty of it all though isn't it?
Different strokes for different folks.
Doesn't mean fans and anti-fans need to fight to the death, just means we are attracted to different people.
I am sitting here thinking of all my closest friends and I wouldn't use the words grace or dignity to describe any of them, you probably look at your circle of friends and find the opposite and I respect that.
It is funny because even the people I am most attracted to in here seem to have the same sense of silliness, fun, vulgarity and inappropriateness with just a hint of seriousness, that I look for in my real life.
I wonder if, and how much, her behaviour may have been different with different HMs.
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riddim
Guest
early on i found estelle difficult to get to like. the house was crowded though and air time was limited, and I can't say that what entertainment value I was getting could be pinpointed to any particular housemates.
through the middle game, ray and estelle emerged as strongly principled, highly honourable characters, and that personal qualities are something I appreciate seeing. Even bradley emerged as having more strength and maturity than much of the house, even if ran his mouth a bit. I can't say it was highly entertaining - josh's antics were probably the most entertaining through that period, but I learned an appreciation for those three that I didn't have before
now as the end game draws to a close, I find estelle's continued survival to be a source of constant entertainment. watching the toxic trio scramble, crumble and turn on each other has been delightful, some of the best schadenfreude I've seen on reality tv.
although, i would guess that the point of your question is more revealing about you, OP - that you value entertainment value over other sources of value. I can't really build a case for estelle on that basis, but I can't really build a case for any of them on that basis. I am more interested to see interactions under stress that reveals things about the people themselves than singing, dancing, or fake skits from rank amateurs.
through the middle game, ray and estelle emerged as strongly principled, highly honourable characters, and that personal qualities are something I appreciate seeing. Even bradley emerged as having more strength and maturity than much of the house, even if ran his mouth a bit. I can't say it was highly entertaining - josh's antics were probably the most entertaining through that period, but I learned an appreciation for those three that I didn't have before
now as the end game draws to a close, I find estelle's continued survival to be a source of constant entertainment. watching the toxic trio scramble, crumble and turn on each other has been delightful, some of the best schadenfreude I've seen on reality tv.
although, i would guess that the point of your question is more revealing about you, OP - that you value entertainment value over other sources of value. I can't really build a case for estelle on that basis, but I can't really build a case for any of them on that basis. I am more interested to see interactions under stress that reveals things about the people themselves than singing, dancing, or fake skits from rank amateurs.
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cattle_and_cane10
Guest
I don't find her particularly entertaining.
I do admire the way that she has been able to remain calm in the house despite being friendless at times.
On the negative side she seems fake, a bit holier than thou and I do dislike her sexual manipulation of Michael. She wouldn't look twice at him outside of the house. It's a deliberate ploy to get him onside.
I do admire the way that she has been able to remain calm in the house despite being friendless at times.
On the negative side she seems fake, a bit holier than thou and I do dislike her sexual manipulation of Michael. She wouldn't look twice at him outside of the house. It's a deliberate ploy to get him onside.
starry
Well-Known Member
That's hilarious!!
He is manipulating her, or he thinks he is. He thinks she is popular and that's why he is trying to hitch himself to her, all the while he is talking crap about her behind her back. Him and the others in the bitching group are continually hatching plans to try and lessen her support. He admits that they made her a pariah so he thinks that by making her less of one her support would lessen. Or he thinks he can use this innocent cuddling to turn on her so his girlie fanbase (who just like him for his looks apparently) can be mobilised. Also Michael of course looks at her like she is a piece of meat, he mainly just likes her for her bum apparently.
Estelle is definitely herself, way more than the hypocritical Michael who thinks he is so superior to everyone.
Allgood
Active Member
TRa certainly has the gift for off the cuff rapping, Estelle needs to take lessons from you.
Is a fake american accent on an Australian THE most annoying thing ever? I say, yes
Sorry I know this is off topic but I completely disagree. If you take Australian rap and compare it to NZ rap, NZ rap wins hands down and it's because they rap with a kind of Pseudo American accent. I swear I am not exaggerating but I cannot bear to listen to Australian rap, I have to switch the radio over every singe time it comes on in the car.
The best Aussie rapper without a doubt in N'FA and he raps with an American twang, plus he has an awesome voice anyway.
Anyway on topic, Estelle provides a bit of eye candy (mostly her horse riding thighs) and I'm sorry to say but her biggest entertainment value is the fact she is annoying. I don't watch big brother to see people sitting around having tea and scones talking about the weather. Estelle's best quality is she is weird and annoying, horrible to live with but brilliant to watch.
That's hilarious!!
If you are not in fact a weird obsessive over analyser...
Piece of meat indeed.
Yo Yo Allgood
You from da hood?
You say my rappin no good?
Aussies da best
Forgit the rest
Wha? NZ rap
I think it crap?
I think yo fat
Whatcha think bout that?
I shag yo dad
But it was bad
Yo not ma friend
This is the end
Peace
Allgood
Active Member
I'm not saying you're no good, I'm saying rapping in a thick Aussie accent is no good. I was replying to Ichi's post not yours.
Geez what an ego.
An again you dis
Yo lucky I need to take a piss
I'll be back
To continue dis smack
You wait here
The end is near
I'll be on you
like a pigeon poo
I'll be back you'll see
I really gotta wee...
Peace
Allgood
Active Member
And ignoring in .......3..........2........