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US 2016 Presidential Election

Well this thread is certainly high energy.

These are some interesting and dare I say entertaining times we live in. So long as the skies remain free of nuclear fallout I'm happy to watch this shit show from afar.
 
Donald Trump Is Right: Hillary Was Held To A Different Standard
A much higher one.

President Donald Trump tried to deflect attention away from his campaign’s repeated lies about its dealings with the Russian government and onto Hillary Clinton Wednesday morning, spouting off on Twitter that he is being held to a different standard than the former secretary of state.

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Why aren't the same standards placed on the Democrats. Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with. Disgraceful!

10:57 PM - 12 Jul 2017



Trump is right. Clinton was held to a very different standard during the campaign and would likely be treated differently as president, too. Let us count the ways.

Demeanor

Clinton was repeatedly criticized for smiling too little and then smiling too much during presidential debates, despite demonstrating competence and logic around policy. Male pundits and politicians said her raised voice during speeches came off as “shrill.”


Trump, meanwhile, aggressively interrupted Clinton during debates and launched childish insults at his opponents. He made bizarre facial expressions while other candidates spoke, criticized the face of a female candidate, referred to the size of his penis in a primary debate and served up word salads that revealed very few details about his policy positions. But in the end, she was the one who struggled to be “likeable” enough.


Trust
Throughout the election, polls consistently showed that more voters viewed Clinton as “dishonest” than viewed Trump that way, despite the fact that Trump lied twice as much. Fact-checking website PolitiFact evaluated 203 of Trump’s statements and 226 of Clinton’s and concluded in July 2016 that although fewer than a third of Clinton’s were “mostly false” or worse, a full 71 percent of Trump’s statements were untrue.But up until election day, the public struggled to trust her while apparently accepting his lies and falsehoods as just part of his overall eccentricity.

Scandals and lies
Both candidates had scandals. Both were accused of crimes. But the voters and politicians who brayed for the imprisonment of Clinton, chanting “lock her up” because she used a private email server as secretary of state, were not chanting “lock him up” when more than a dozen women accused Trump of sexual assault. Trump even bragged on tape that he had groped women’s vaginas without consent, and then-Senator (now Attorney General) Jeff Sessions questioned whether the action Trump had described was a crime.

Trump then invited three women to a presidential debate who have accused former President Bill Clinton of sexual assault ― as if Clinton should be held as responsible for her husband’s actions as Trump should be for his own.

While Clinton never managed to escape coverage of her email scandal, nothing Trump did during the campaign, no matter how shocking, seemed to stick in voters’ minds. Clinton’s emails overshadowed the entire election, whereas Trump had so many scandals that none was ever able to define him, according to an analysis by researchers at Gallup, Georgetown University, and the University of Michigan.

But Clinton’s “scandals,” by all measures, are not even in the same league as the scandals now plaguing the Trump administration. Federal investigations into her use of a private email server as secretary of state ― a mistake that arguably cost her the election ― have so far resulted in no criminal charges or revelations of corruption beyond her admission that she used her personal phone for state business. Republicans also spent years and millions of dollars investigating her role in the Benghazi attack ― at one point grilling her on the subject for 11 hours ― without turning up any new evidence of wrongdoing.

What now?
One can only imagine how Republicans might treat Clinton ― and how the public would perceive her ― if evidence turned up that her campaigntried to collude with a hostile foreign government to tip the election in her favor and then lied about it.

Meanwhile, more evidence implicates Trump’s campaign of doing exactly that, and his supporters either refuse to believe it or simply don’t care. Multiple members of Trump’s administration and campaign team have repeatedly been caught lying about their interactions with officials from Russia ― a longtime rival of the United States ― and his son has now revealed he was trying to collude with the Russian government to help him win. On top of that, the president allegedly tried to squash a Federal Bureau of Investigation probe of his former national security adviser, and then he fired the man in charge of that investigation ― which legal experts predict will lead to a felony charge of obstruction of justice.

Trump’s lies are so frequent and egregious that The New York Times compiled a comprehensive list of them. And still, his supporters don’t care.

Trump’s son changed his story several times before finally releasing an email chain showing that he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer with the understandingthat the Kremlin was trying to help Trump’s campaign. But the president ― who coined the nickname “crooked Hillary” ― responded by tweeting that his son is a “high-quality person,” and a Republican senator said the scandal is not “relevant” to the Trump administration.

So yes, it’s fair to conclude that Hillary Clinton would be held to a different standard as president ― the same double standard that lost her the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-clinton-double-standard_us_59664a0fe4b005b0fdca6a16
 
Clinton cost herself the election. I really hope the Democrats don't take heed of this theory and blame sexism for Hillary's loss when there were other factors for her losing.
 
Donald Trump Is Right: Hillary Was Held To A Different Standard
A much higher one.

President Donald Trump tried to deflect attention away from his campaign’s repeated lies about its dealings with the Russian government and onto Hillary Clinton Wednesday morning, spouting off on Twitter that he is being held to a different standard than the former secretary of state.

Follow
Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump

Why aren't the same standards placed on the Democrats. Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with. Disgraceful!

10:57 PM - 12 Jul 2017



Trump is right. Clinton was held to a very different standard during the campaign and would likely be treated differently as president, too. Let us count the ways.

Demeanor

Clinton was repeatedly criticized for smiling too little and then smiling too much during presidential debates, despite demonstrating competence and logic around policy. Male pundits and politicians said her raised voice during speeches came off as “shrill.”


Trump, meanwhile, aggressively interrupted Clinton during debates and launched childish insults at his opponents. He made bizarre facial expressions while other candidates spoke, criticized the face of a female candidate, referred to the size of his penis in a primary debate and served up word salads that revealed very few details about his policy positions. But in the end, she was the one who struggled to be “likeable” enough.


Trust
Throughout the election, polls consistently showed that more voters viewed Clinton as “dishonest” than viewed Trump that way, despite the fact that Trump lied twice as much. Fact-checking website PolitiFact evaluated 203 of Trump’s statements and 226 of Clinton’s and concluded in July 2016 that although fewer than a third of Clinton’s were “mostly false” or worse, a full 71 percent of Trump’s statements were untrue.But up until election day, the public struggled to trust her while apparently accepting his lies and falsehoods as just part of his overall eccentricity.

Scandals and lies
Both candidates had scandals. Both were accused of crimes. But the voters and politicians who brayed for the imprisonment of Clinton, chanting “lock her up” because she used a private email server as secretary of state, were not chanting “lock him up” when more than a dozen women accused Trump of sexual assault. Trump even bragged on tape that he had groped women’s vaginas without consent, and then-Senator (now Attorney General) Jeff Sessions questioned whether the action Trump had described was a crime.

Trump then invited three women to a presidential debate who have accused former President Bill Clinton of sexual assault ― as if Clinton should be held as responsible for her husband’s actions as Trump should be for his own.

While Clinton never managed to escape coverage of her email scandal, nothing Trump did during the campaign, no matter how shocking, seemed to stick in voters’ minds. Clinton’s emails overshadowed the entire election, whereas Trump had so many scandals that none was ever able to define him, according to an analysis by researchers at Gallup, Georgetown University, and the University of Michigan.

But Clinton’s “scandals,” by all measures, are not even in the same league as the scandals now plaguing the Trump administration. Federal investigations into her use of a private email server as secretary of state ― a mistake that arguably cost her the election ― have so far resulted in no criminal charges or revelations of corruption beyond her admission that she used her personal phone for state business. Republicans also spent years and millions of dollars investigating her role in the Benghazi attack ― at one point grilling her on the subject for 11 hours ― without turning up any new evidence of wrongdoing.

What now?
One can only imagine how Republicans might treat Clinton ― and how the public would perceive her ― if evidence turned up that her campaigntried to collude with a hostile foreign government to tip the election in her favor and then lied about it.

Meanwhile, more evidence implicates Trump’s campaign of doing exactly that, and his supporters either refuse to believe it or simply don’t care. Multiple members of Trump’s administration and campaign team have repeatedly been caught lying about their interactions with officials from Russia ― a longtime rival of the United States ― and his son has now revealed he was trying to collude with the Russian government to help him win. On top of that, the president allegedly tried to squash a Federal Bureau of Investigation probe of his former national security adviser, and then he fired the man in charge of that investigation ― which legal experts predict will lead to a felony charge of obstruction of justice.

Trump’s lies are so frequent and egregious that The New York Times compiled a comprehensive list of them. And still, his supporters don’t care.

Trump’s son changed his story several times before finally releasing an email chain showing that he agreed to meet with a Russian lawyer with the understandingthat the Kremlin was trying to help Trump’s campaign. But the president ― who coined the nickname “crooked Hillary” ― responded by tweeting that his son is a “high-quality person,” and a Republican senator said the scandal is not “relevant” to the Trump administration.

So yes, it’s fair to conclude that Hillary Clinton would be held to a different standard as president ― the same double standard that lost her the election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-clinton-double-standard_us_59664a0fe4b005b0fdca6a16

seems a whole lot of speculatin' on the huffingtons part. can't say i blame is all considerin' they be mighty peeved at Trump. best they be gettin back to reporting real news instead of all this theorizin'.
 
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ARE PRESEDENT DONALD J TRUMP DONE MORE IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS THEN OBAMA DONE IN 8 YEARS!!! HES KEPT ALL HIS PROMISES ESPECALLY THE WALL WICH WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPOTENT ONES OF ALL!! PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE DONE AND THAN HE CAN DEPORT ALL THE ILEGAL IMMGRENTS THAT ONLY SPEAK HISPANIC LIKE HE PROMISED AND HES ASLO GOING TO GET RIT OF THE RADCAL MUSLAMIC MUSLIN TERRISTS AND DEPORT THEM BACK TO ISLAM JUST LIKE HE SAYED HE WOULD DO!
 
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ARE PRESEDENT DONALD J TRUMP DONE MORE IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS THEN OBAMA DONE IN 8 YEARS!!! HES KEPT ALL HIS PROMISES ESPECALLY THE WALL WICH WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPOTENT ONES OF ALL!! PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE DONE AND THAN HE CAN DEPORT ALL THE ILEGAL IMMGRENTS THAT ONLY SPEAK HISPANIC LIKE HE PROMISED AND HES ASLO GOING TO GET RIT OF THE RADCAL MUSLAMIC MUSLIN TERRISTS AND DEPORT THEM BACK TO ISLAM JUST LIKE HE SAYED HE WOULD DO!

Well he is keeping his promises.
 
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Jimmy Carter - international humanitarian, Nobel Peace Prize winner and 39th president of the United States.

Jimmy continues to be Habitat for Humanity's most prominent booster, donning a white hard hat and a worn leather belt stocked with his own tools to hammer and saw with other volunteers building homes. Jimmy perpetually arrives at the site ahead of schedule, removing a blue windbreaker and installing a hammer, measuring tape and thick pencil on his tool belt. Then he helps place pre-framed walls, hammers nails into place and saws boards into smaller pieces, occasionally shouting questions or suggestions at the rest of the crew. His wife, Rosalynn (age 89), hammers brackets to secure the walls, pulling the nails from her own leather tool belt.

Jimmy Carter and the Atlanta-based charity have been synonymous for more than 30 years. Jimmy's presidential museum even has a pair of his work boots and a hammer on display. Since leaving the White House, Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter have personally been involved with over 4,000 projects in 14 countries for the group, which has helped five million people with home construction and repairs.

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Jimmy Carter - international humanitarian, Nobel Peace Prize winner and 39th president of the United States.

Jimmy continues to be Habitat for Humanity's most prominent booster, donning a white hard hat and a worn leather belt stocked with his own tools to hammer and saw with other volunteers building homes. Jimmy perpetually arrives at the site ahead of schedule, removing a blue windbreaker and installing a hammer, measuring tape and thick pencil on his tool belt. Then he helps place pre-framed walls, hammers nails into place and saws boards into smaller pieces, occasionally shouting questions or suggestions at the rest of the crew. His wife, Rosalynn (age 89), hammers brackets to secure the walls, pulling the nails from her own leather tool belt.

Jimmy Carter and the Atlanta-based charity have been synonymous for more than 30 years. Jimmy's presidential museum even has a pair of his work boots and a hammer on display. Since leaving the White House, Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter have personally been involved with over 4,000 projects in 14 countries for the group, which has helped five million people with home construction and repairs.

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I'm too selfish to be like Jimmy.

also isee if you want to know why Trump beat Clinton search dr will kirby on youtube or watch big brother all stars usa.
 
I'm too selfish to be like Jimmy.

also isee if you want to know why Trump beat Clinton search dr will kirby on youtube or watch big brother all stars usa.

I have a book here I am going to read called How the hell did this happen? by PJ O'rourke, a political satirist(republican) wrote about the election.
 
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ARE PRESEDENT DONALD J TRUMP DONE MORE IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS THEN OBAMA DONE IN 8 YEARS!!! HES KEPT ALL HIS PROMISES ESPECALLY THE WALL WICH WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPOTENT ONES OF ALL!! PRETTY SOON IT WILL BE DONE AND THAN HE CAN DEPORT ALL THE ILEGAL IMMGRENTS THAT ONLY SPEAK HISPANIC LIKE HE PROMISED AND HES ASLO GOING TO GET RIT OF THE RADCAL MUSLAMIC MUSLIN TERRISTS AND DEPORT THEM BACK TO ISLAM JUST LIKE HE SAYED HE WOULD DO!
What on earth is that?!
 
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I have a book here I am going to read called How the hell did this happen? by PJ O'rourke, a political satirist(republican) wrote about the election.

but it's doctor will kirby! the greatest big brother player ever. he makes tim dormer look like a rank amateur!
 
“One of the things with the wall is you need transparency,” Trump said. “You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.”

“And I’ll give you an example: As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don’t see them — they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It’s over,” Trump continued. “As crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall. But we have some incredible designs.”



Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-border-wall-mexico-drugs-2017-7#8oPLX3OEjqqp0ebT.99
 
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meh its just political appointees.
Yes but how many of those portfolios are sitting a holding pattern or halted altogether because there is nobody appointed to them? There are possibly a lot of government departments unable to continue with projects and work until those appointments are made.
 
but Big Brother! i owe my life to big brother.
hehe I knew I would get a reaction for that one. At this point in time its a bit hard for me to watch stuff like that on you tube (we are on adsl and getting upgraded to the nbn at the moment) as our internet is often patchy watching you tube, and buffers and drops out too much. But I will keep it in mind for the future.
 
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