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Would a gay showmance work/ever happen?

BBfan- said:
You don't have to like watching gay people kiss. Many people don't like watching old or ugly or unlikable people kissing, so when it comes up on TV, they avert their eyes for a couple of seconds. It's not that hard really. That's what I did when Jade and Ed were making out with the cameras zoomed in on their mouths.
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That's fine by me. Everyone's got their own taste/proclivities etc and strong reactions to anything that diverges from that is perfectly normal. But some posters in here are still adamant that any hetero who is slightly bothered by same sex pda are full blown bigots. :rolleyes:
 
Connoisseur said:
Is there an equivalent therapy for heteros who are involuntarily grossed out by gay displays of affection? I can't help feeling the way do, it's 100% instinctive. Despite that fact does that mean I'm a homophobe and in need of therapy to beat that subconscious bigotry out me? I can claim otherwise but that'll be a straight up lie. Is that what gays wanna hear, white lies?
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Neither requires therapy. Both require tolerance.

The fact that I actually have to point that out to adults makes my eyes roll into the back of my head.
 
gaasuCHAN said:
Neither requires therapy. Both require tolerance.

The fact that I actually have to point that out to adults makes my eyes roll into the back of my head.
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I have no control over my biological impulses. Do you suggest an aversion therapy like the Ludovico technique (from A Clockwork Orange) to rectify my innate bigotry?
 
Connoisseur said:
That's fine by me. Everyone's got their own taste/proclivities etc and strong reactions to anything that diverges from that is perfectly normal. But some posters in here are still adamant that any hetero who is slightly bothered by same sex pda are full blown bigots. :rolleyes:
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Well I clearly defined bigot as separate from homophobe like twice. You're not a bigot but you are homophobic, end of.

I never said a person is bad for being uncomfortable seeing two gays, I'm just sick of people prefacing their discomfort with 'I'm not homophobic, but...'.

I for one am bothered by all PDA. Heck, I'm gay and even I am slightly homophobic. But because I'm gay I've been forced to be around it more than the average person and it's made me adjust - the same would probably happen to you if you spent a year in a gay social circle.
 
This thread will probably end up being the next "Can a gay ever win BB?" like last year, where everyone will discuss and debate it endlessly and then suddenly it will surprise us all and actually happen. :p

BB 2014 may surprise us...:rolleyes: :p
 
Febeheh said:
Well I clearly defined bigot as separate from homophobe like twice. You're not a bigot but you are homophobic, end of.

I never said a person is bad for being uncomfortable seeing two gays, I'm just sick of people prefacing their discomfort with 'I'm not homophobic, but...'.

I for one am bothered by all PDA. Heck, I'm gay and even I am slightly homophobic. But because I'm gay I've been forced to be around it more than the average person and it's made me adjust - the same would probably happen to you if you spent a year in a gay social circle.
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What measures do you suggest then to rid myself of that ingrained homophobia? Bear in mind that none of it is premeditated, it is all instinctive at a biological level.
 
Connoisseur said:
What measures do you suggest then to rid myself of that ingrained homophobia? Bear in mind that none of it is premeditated, it is all instinctive at a biological level.
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Aaand with statements like this, you're relinquishing any semblance of a valid argument you could hope to have. Calling aversion a biological impulse tells me you never studied Science past Year 11. It's a psychological impulse actually - and they are biologically wired to habit, not genetics. The pride you take in your phobia is what's really concerning.

Sexuality is instinctive at a biological level, yes. But are you aroused at the sight of two hetersexuals kissing? No. So should you be 'instinctively' uncomfortable at the sight of two gays kissing?

You're pretty much beyond help at this point because it seems your somewhat of a contrarian who likes to take a different view - you're proud of your phobia so simply exposing yourself to gay affection is obviously out the question. Children growing up with the TV of today won't have the same problem you do because they're more acclimatised to seeing gay PDA, thankfully. Hopefully Big Brother can join the ranks of those shows sooner than later. :)
 
I think in order for any form of romance to happen, they need to enter the house at the same time, or at least before half way.
Romance doesn't just happen, it does need to build up a little bit.
A crush is way different to romance.

Plus emotions within the house are ten fold, as it's such a intense place.

IMV, I don't really like romance too much within the house it does take away from the other house mates
 
Plus most of the time, one half of the romance is using it to play the game.

I.e ED, he would of been gone sooner if he didn't "hook" up with Jade.
Sam from last year, he used the romance as a stepping stone, Michael tried the samething, just wrong person and the timing was a bit late within the game to save himself.
 
Big Brother Australia has had a range of gay males over the years. They have been out and proud, community affiliated, single, attached, camp, bitchy, earnest and political, funny, shy, gym bunnies, geeky, beary, effeminate and carefree, the lot.

Though I usually dislike showmances as the couple often becomes boring, and they can separate from the other housemates to a degree, I wouldn't mind a gay romance too much as that would be something different.

Ten would probably have been happier about showing it while the more conservative Nine might not love the idea quite so much(?)

Australian G-rated TV dramas like 'Neighbours' and 'Dance Academy' have gay male characters and gay couples and both shows have shown male to male kissing (at one time these clips could be found on youtube). Since those programs are rated G there's no reason why the PG rated Big Brother can't show such scenes - unless as I suggested Nine don't like the idea.
 
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Connoisseur said:
What measures do you suggest then to rid myself of that ingrained homophobia? Bear in mind that none of it is premeditated, it is all instinctive at a biological level.
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Don't be obtuse. Homophobia is not ingrained. And you don't have a biological aversion to homosexuals kissing. Stop making excuses.

What you have as an aversion to homosexuals kissing that is predicated on a distaste specific to homosexuals.

Homophobia.
 
Febeheh said:
Aaand with statements like this, you're relinquishing any semblance of a valid argument you could hope to have. Calling aversion a biological impulse tells me you never studied Science past Year 11. It's a psychological impulse actually - and they are biologically wired to habit, not genetics. The pride you take in your phobia is what's really concerning.

Sexuality is instinctive at a biological level, yes. But are you aroused at the sight of two hetersexuals kissing? No. So should you be 'instinctively' uncomfortable at the sight of two gays kissing?

You're pretty much beyond help at this point because it seems your somewhat of a contrarian who likes to take a different view - you're proud of your phobia so simply exposing yourself to gay affection is obviously out the question. Children growing up with the TV of today won't have the same problem you do because they're more acclimatised to seeing gay PDA, thankfully. Hopefully Big Brother can join the ranks of those shows sooner than later. :)
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Great post.
 
Febeheh said:
You mean homophobes are actually literate? Wow.

And yes you are homophobic, by definition of the word. A homophobe isn't someone who activately hates gays - they're bigots. A homophobe is someone who has a fear of homosexuality, which extends to not wanting to have to see 'them' do 'their business' while being happy seeing it from a heterosexual couple (which mind you, would just be cuddling in this context)
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you truely fit the image of a moron where in any of my posts have i said i "hate gays??" never so i expect an apoligy from you
Nor am i homophobic you fool in the past i've employed gay people to work for me so your assumptions are those made by a uneducated ignorant fool !!!!!
I do not fear them in fact i could care less what they do in their lives i'm simply stating i'm sick of seeing them on tv shows to draw viewers and attention to themselves its pathetic in my view
in fact you seem overly interested in homosexuals to the point i feel you are gay but afraid to out yourself for fear of rejection by family & friends ???
 
personally I think their was more than 1 gay in the house this year, in fact I think there was a few.but its over now,so unless they get a job off BB we will never know
 
To answer the question that this thread poses, Alot of things would have to aline for a gay showmance to happen. 2 gay people who are attracted to each other and are looking for love/a showmance would have to be in the house at the same time. Will the producers cast people in hopes of this happening I have no idea.

I actually can't stand showmances of any kind even stupid bro-mances make me sick.
 
OldMick said:
you truely fit the image of a moron where in any of my posts have i said i "hate gays??" never so i expect an apoligy from you
Nor am i homophobic you fool in the past i've employed gay people to work for me so your assumptions are those made by a uneducated ignorant fool !!!!!
I do not fear them in fact i could care less what they do in their lives i'm simply stating i'm sick of seeing them on tv shows to draw viewers and attention to themselves its pathetic in my view
in fact you seem overly interested in homosexuals to the point i feel you are gay but afraid to out yourself for fear of rejection by family & friends ???
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I see you're NOT actually literate.

Febeheh already identified as part of the LGBT community, if you bothered reading... and specifically explained the difference between homophobia (you and others similar - and that's okay) and bigots (those who actually hate homosexual people).

I'm straight with very low bi impulses - but also used to be homophobic till I was exposed to my gay friends' PDAs. Now I just dislike ALL PDAs beyond cuddles, pecks etc.
 
torifrog said:
I see you're NOT actually literate.

Febeheh already identified as part of the LGBT community, if you bothered reading... and specifically explained the difference between homophobia (you and others similar - and that's okay) and bigots (those who actually hate homosexual people).

I'm straight with very low bi impulses - but also used to be homophobic till I was exposed to my gay friends' PDAs. Now I just dislike ALL PDAs beyond cuddles, pecks etc.
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Thanks for saving me the effort of writing this haha :). Appreciated.
 
My 2 cents. Personally, I am not a fan of PDAs at all. If I saw two gay people making out it probably would make me uncomfortable tbh, but it would have nothing to do with their sexuality. It is only just occurring to me now that I may have projected this in the past and I really hope it was never interpreted as homophobia. It would be exactly the same with straight people, its just something I don't want to see. People making out, that is, not gay people.

I myself am also a member of the LGBT community AND I used to live in the thick of it in bloody Newtown, briefly. It was pretty hard to escape same-sex PDAs there, let me tell you! So I am used to it and it doesn't make me uncomfortable, but I have no interest in seeing couples kiss. Far out, just the other day a couple was making out on the escalator in front of me and wouldn't let me pass... are you freaking kidding me?

/rant
 
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