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Who is the narcissist?

Is this a guessing game?

My guess is Matt:)

Now BB please pull sneaky Caleb up for his meathead nominations directions.
Caleb is telling Matt and Ed who to nominate - "Tim told me he is a narcissistic liar", we can't ever trust him (he's way too smart and funny), nominate the liar for calling himself a liar, oh hang on we can't trust what he says, of fuck.............

BB - please, I beg of you, pull Caleb into the diary room and ask him for a definition of narcissistic
and to spell it; Caleb actually has some brains he's hiding he may pass.
But matt won't ask him the same.
Then Ed
 
A true narcissist is unlikely to recognise it in themselves, so it couldn't be Tim. :)
 
qtkt said:
A true narcissist is unlikely to recognise it in themselves, so it couldn't be Tim. :)
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What about me Father Sister?

WHAT ABOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
this thread is hilarious, so many experts lol. Everyone of us has traits of just about every personality disorder.
 
Yea I agree qtkt, narcissists probably wouldn't have hyper self-awareness or at least wouldn't acknowledge their negatives to such a great extent. Tim's actually really open about what he thinks sucks about himself, so that alone tells me he's probably just an outrageously out-there guy as opposed to a true narcissist.
 
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I am not a fan but I don't think she is a narcissist either. Or Tim or any of them. While I have some doubts about who they let on I trust the psych people enough that they would never let a true narcissist on the show. And the reaction to a perceived ridicule would be FAR more extreme!!!' (From what I have read on the personality type)
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Yeah the reaction to perceived slights are very extreme. I dared to refuse (politely) to answer a personal question to my mother. Queue a dramatic tear filled exit, 12 months of silent treatment, nasty things said about me on facebook including calling me a dog, isolated me from my entire family. After 12 months she decided I'd be of use to her again...for her to find out I had no interest and queue the outrage and slagging off all over again.
 
When Ed explained the true nature of manipulative narcissism to Caleb, Caleb agreed and said it sounded like Tim was "evil."
 
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Buahahahaaa [MENTION=31931]Jo-bot[/MENTION] is that DRULLY up above?? Muahahaha legendary!!
 
Aren't most people self-involved to a certain degree? Narcissism is a real disorder, not something that can be pointed out super easily as most narcissists supposedly hide it well to most people. I don't think any of them actually are narcissists - not the real, full-blown types. My take on them:

Ben - the type who thinks in his head more than he speaks. I don't see it as self-centered or narcissistic. This is if Ben's a real person and not an actor lol.
Caleb - the only times I think he could have narcissistic tendencies is when he acts all happy and innocent to everyone, then goes and has a sneaky chat with Matt and feeds him all of this twisted-sounding information. He definitely hides his opinions of most people well, besides to Matt and Ed.
Drew - eh, I think he's the furthest thing from a narcissist.
Ed - don't think he's one either, but he certainly has a real fascination for psycho analyzing the way Caleb does.
Heidi - I haven't got a grasp of her yet. She seems like she has real insecurity issues, but she talks about them pretty openly... so my guess is that she isn't.
Jade - nah. Although, if putting herself down to others is her way of gaining that attention, she's a clever narcy. I get the feeling that Jade being 22 and being slightly lost/finding her security has to do with that though, seeing as I'm her age and have similar moments.
Jasmin - Like Heidi.. don't know with her.
Sisters - These two definitely COULD be the real narcissists. Someone mentioned that they're projecting a very different image of their real selves... which is classic narcissism. The way they're all about the outer appearance, the matching, and the way they instantly seem to switch off all lines up.
Matt - Like Drew, I don't see any bit of narcissism in him. He doesn't pretend to be perfect. Although everyone seems to have that image of him/his superiority, I think Matt genuinely just tries his best to be who he is. I don't want to fall into the "I like Matt" camp, but I don't think he's that self-involved.
Mikkayla - she's more likely to have some other personality disorder, lol.
Tahan - don't think so. I think she's just got an out-there personality.
Tim - Here's the thing: Tim says he's a narcissist, but do real narcissists admit that? I don't think so. I think Tim's just a little class clown with maybe some inadequacy issues. His claim to fame seems to be his willingness to put himself out there and even belittle himself. Doesn't seem to match. Very self-centered, though.
Tully - She's emotionally unstable. She definitely does have that tendency to see how others relate to her/their mold, but I don't know if I'd call her narcissistic in the real sense of the term. Tully's self-absorbed, unstable.. but perhaps not narcissistic.


Guh, excuse me as I go gouge my eyes out after writing this post. I hate psycho babble yet still wrote this post - clearly, I'm a masochist! (Okay, analyzing done.)
 
Cowie said:
Yeah the reaction to perceived slights are very extreme. I dared to refuse (politely) to answer a personal question to my mother. Queue a dramatic tear filled exit, 12 months of silent treatment, nasty things said about me on facebook including calling me a dog, isolated me from my entire family. After 12 months she decided I'd be of use to her again...for her to find out I had no interest and queue the outrage and slagging off all over again.
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Cowie, as someone dealing with people with a real mental illness properly diagnosed - does it give you the shits all the unqualified wankers who think they can diagnose complete strangers through an edited TV show???

Shits me so much, these HMs are not psych cases, they are pretty robust walking egos mostly even sulky Tully.
Some posters need to visit a psych hospital and see the difference between slighty weird and totally ill.

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Not meant to be having a go at you Firenze, your post came up as I posted.
But honestly people, plenty of posters here deal with real psych cases at work, or have mentally ill family members.
Be a bit sensitive and thoughtful before you fling around psychiatric diagnosis your not qualified to perform, let alone guess for distant strangers.
 
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^ It's funny you mentioned that, because I grew up with a narcissistic mother (who also had bipolar tendencies). I've experienced it first hand in quite possibly the worst way anyone can experience it coming from someone else.. so, my post is really meant to say that it's a serious accusation and you can't just label someone a narcissist because they seem self-absorbed. Being on BB doesn't make you a narcissist.

It's not a light term to throw around, but I think I'm allowed to comment on them as is everyone.

Cowie said:
Yeah the reaction to perceived slights are very extreme. I dared to refuse (politely) to answer a personal question to my mother. Queue a dramatic tear filled exit, 12 months of silent treatment, nasty things said about me on facebook including calling me a dog, isolated me from my entire family. After 12 months she decided I'd be of use to her again...for her to find out I had no interest and queue the outrage and slagging off all over again.
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Ah, friend, we've been through many similar things I imagine. When I'm in close quarters with my mum, there always ends up being an argument. All it takes is for me to say something she doesn't totally agree with (not even something rude, just an opinion or maybe a suggestion or a fact that she doesn't like) and it ends up with her getting angry, yelling, then eventually accusing me of things. At the worst of times, it's ended with her screaming, shaking, holding her head, crying about how she does everything and no one cares about her, throwing things, talking about how she's the beautiful and smart one and how we're all lucky because without her we'd be nothing. She can be the sweetest person to a person outside of the family, then once they're gone, she immediately stops smiling and will snap at you. People like this usually hide it extremely well to people who aren't in their immediate family, and play an overly-perfect image to outsiders. That's why I like people like Drew, Tahan, Tim, Jade - they aren't afraid to just be real, even Jade.

For me, it's definitely a problem that the term gets thrown around. I think some of the HMs have tendencies, but a lot of people do as the tendencies are broad at times. Real narcissists are different, though. I just can't see anyone on the show being the real, 100% type.
 
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Something interesting

Narcissistic Personality Disorder on the DSM-V Chopping Block

The news that the DSM-V will likely omit narcissistic personality disorder as a diagnosis has created some controversy among clinicians. On one hand, it seems absurd to throw away a classification that describes traits and defenses that we see all around us. Everyone knows someone—hopefully not one of our patients—who has a narcissistic personality structure. Narcissistic defenses are commonplace, and show up everywhere from the boardroom to the locker room. If the disorder is so easy to recognize, and the term describing it is so apt, why would we remove the term from our nomenclature?

On the other side sits the argument that narcissistic personality disorder isn’t real psychopathology. Narcissists are really just unpleasant people who are full of themselves and get rather perturbed when you tell them so. Just because they aren’t nice doesn’t mean they are crazy. In fact, some would suggest that self-esteem is a trait with a bell-shaped distribution—and people at the very high end look pretty much like classic narcissists. Is thinking too much of yourself while seeking fame, praise, and power a sign of deep illness? By that standard, many of our politicians and captains of industry are candidates for an Axis II diagnosis.

Perhaps the biggest problem with keeping narcissistic personality disorder in the DSM is that we don’t really know how to treat it. With all due respect to Kernberg, Masterson, and Kohut, there is no treatment for narcissistic personality disorder that has any empirical support. There is no evidence that we have found anything that reliably works with these folks. (Except age—the problem seems to lessen as people get older and beaten down by life.) The purpose of diagnosis is to point clinicians to a reliable treatment. Otherwise we are simply drawing a circle around arbitrary groups of symptoms and having fun giving them labels. The exercise may be intellectually satisfying, but it hardly advances clinical science.

If we consistently applied the standard that a diagnosis should always connect to a treatment specific for that disorder, we would have to throw many more “disorders” out of the DSM. Of course, doing so might be a good idea since the DSM is such a poor instrument for helping us choose appropriate or effective treatments. That, however, is a long conversation for another time.

—Matthew McKay, PhD
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Yep, aging seems to lessen it a bit. Or at least it makes the attacker less threatening than before. Either way, it IS a real problem and it saddens me to think that anyone would look to make it seem like less of a big deal.

It'd be great if they found a cure. : (
 
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