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US 2016 Presidential Election

Isee said:
I am sure aspects of Obamacare or the Dodd Frank worked and some didn't, but there is no point in throwing out the whole thing with no replacement, or even a process in place to come up with a better solution.
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That's not what they are doing.

Trump has said they are keeping parts of Obamacare. He has said he's not for people losing health care or that previously uninsured to lose healthcare.

With the Dodd-Frank bill, he talked specifically about cutting things out of it. Not removing it all.
 
up_all_night said:
That's not what they are doing.

Trump has said they are keeping parts of Obamacare. He has said he's not for people losing health care or that previously uninsured to lose healthcare.

With the Dodd-Frank bill, he talked specifically about cutting things out of it. Not removing it all.
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Exactly right. Trump is looking out for the American people through improvement of past legislation.
 
up_all_night said:
That's not what they are doing.

Trump has said they are keeping parts of Obamacare. He has said he's not for people losing health care or that previously uninsured to lose healthcare.

With the Dodd-Frank bill, he talked specifically about cutting things out of it. Not removing it all.
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ok. I guess time will tell how it all works out then
 
As we watch the so-called President
He speaks his so-called mind
Tweeting out his so-called wisdom
That his so-called experts find

He's become the so-called President over the last 24 hours. I kind of agree with SouthPark. You couldnt make this stuff up. It satirises itself.
 
Mooseface said:
As we watch the so-called President
He speaks his so-called mind
Tweeting out his so-called wisdom
That his so-called experts find

He's become the so-called President over the last 24 hours. I kind of agree with SouthPark. You couldnt make this stuff up. It satirises itself.
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Trump is the hero we need

He will bleed, he will bleed

For america!

Yes.

He will bleed, he will bleed

for America.

Oh god speed

President Trump!
 
Mean while, this President only works mon-friday, weekends at his spread doing dirty business deals.

Are any betting agencies taking impeachment bets?

It is far too exhausting watching Trump stumble and fumble - from a huge distance. Imagine how weary he is at close quarters.

He will sink USA, we belong with Asia and should get far away from the sinking ship - bring our troops home from everywhere, not appreciated so come home.
Would love to see a PM tell USA to just piss off, the only PM we have had that didn't walk 10 paces behind a president was Keating.
 
kxk said:
Mean while, this President only works mon-friday, weekends at his spread doing dirty business deals.

Are any betting agencies taking impeachment bets?

It is far too exhausting watching Trump stumble and fumble - from a huge distance. Imagine how weary he is at close quarters.

He will sink USA, we belong with Asia and should get far away from the sinking ship - bring our troops home from everywhere, not appreciated so come home.
Would love to see a PM tell USA to just piss off, the only PM we have had that didn't walk 10 paces behind a president was Keating.
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I don't think I would take the impeachment bet, but I would take odds on he gets taken out by the CIA/FBI/other agency.
 
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kxk said:
He will sink USA, we belong with Asia and should get far away from the sinking ship - bring our troops home from everywhere, not appreciated so come home.
Would love to see a PM tell USA to just piss off, the only PM we have had that didn't walk 10 paces behind a president was Keating.
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Oh Trump won't do anything of the sort. The USA is a strong old democracy, Trump won't sink it.

There's just so much hysteria. The media loves it and people get off on being enraged as part of the hysteria. Trump is crap, but Hillary would have been crap and going by their policy positions she would have been worse for our troops.

Trump already has done us a favour by scrapping the TPP. He's taking those refugees we locked up in a concentration camp.

Australia does need to not be so tied to the USA, but that irrespective of Trump. People just wouldn't care as much currently if Hillary won, even though she was the candidate of war and coups.

People have just been sold a hysteria, sky is falling narrative. Trumps crap, don't get me wrong but the coverage and reactions of him is absolutely absurd.

It really is worth while going through reddit and even reading the Trumpster supporting news sites to get a more rounded view. What gets covered and what doesn't. The spin put on everything and the stories and the incorrect stories put out. It actually is quite surprising the spin and not real stories.

I think the media is right to be tough on Trump but having to spin everything as being the end of the world. Running to print stories that are incorrect because they are negative. It's just insane and is bad for everyone and will make matters worse. I also think it'll encourage Trump to be worse.

If Trump adopted a rescue puppy, it'd be spun as being bad.

What will happen is and it already has to some extent is that people will disengage.

I wish a lot of this new found motivation and caring for what the USA does was showing a change but I know it won't. Once Trump leaves office in 4 years and a Democrat wins. People will go back to not caring about the horrible things the USA does.
 
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up_all_night said:
Oh Trump won't do anything of the sort. The USA is a strong old democracy, Trump won't sink it.

There's just so much hysteria. The media loves it and people get off on being enraged as part of the hysteria. Trump is crap, but Hillary would have been crap and going by their policy positions she would have been worse for our troops.

Trump already has done us a favour by scrapping the TPP. He's taking those refugees we locked up in a concentration camp.

Australia does need to not be so tied to the USA, but that irrespective of Trump. People just wouldn't care as much currently if Hillary won, even though she was the candidate of war and coups.

People have just been sold a hysteria, sky is falling narrative. Trumps crap, don't get me wrong but the coverage and reactions of him is absolutely absurd.

It really is worth while going through reddit and even reading the Trumpster supporting news sites to get a more rounded view. What gets covered and what doesn't. The spin put on everything and the stories and the incorrect stories put out. It actually is quite surprising the spin and not real stories.

I think the media is right to be tough on Trump but having to spin everything as being the end of the world. Running to print stories that are incorrect because they are negative. It's just insane and is bad for everyone and will make matters worse. I also think it'll encourage Trump to be worse.

If Trump adopted a rescue puppy, it'd be spun as being bad.

What will happen is and it already has to some extent is that people will disengage.

I wish a lot of this new found motivation and caring for what the USA does was showing a change but I know it won't. Once Trump leaves office in 4 years and a Democrat wins. People will go back to not caring about the horrible things the USA does.
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Yes, Trump getting rid of the TPP is a great thing.

The media got played for fools by Trump and his team and they want revenge. It doesn't matter if they are wrong or not, they just want to humiliate Trump.
 
up_all_night said:
Oh Trump won't do anything of the sort. The USA is a strong old democracy, Trump won't sink it.

I wish a lot of this new found motivation and caring for what the USA does was showing a change but I know it won't. Once Trump leaves office in 4 years and a Democrat wins. People will go back to not caring about the horrible things the USA does.
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I always care, and always follow international politics - for we are part of a world.
And USA is kind of a crap old democracy, it needs overhauling.

Following world politics and law is fascinating, kind of obsessed myself, the differences/similarities, and oddities are enthralling.
The internet has made it so much easier - before I had to spend a lot of time in libraries, or spend a lot of money on subscriptions
 
Inspired by @Mooseface i'm going to post some poems and songs extolling the glorious virtues of the great American president Donald Trump. As a way of expressing my admiration and loyalty for her.
 
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