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Apparently Trump tweeted that paid protesters were part of all those protests? If that is true then that is disgraceful. Trying to turn public opinion against Trump. A man only trying to do his job.
 
Tuttle said:
Wait, so you and they think Abbott is the man for the job now?
Because I can't see the boys club putting Julie up, who would also put Trump back in his box btw. Can't see anyone on in the Labor camp capable atm. Can you?
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No, I hate Abbott more than Turnbull.

Turn on Sky News, almost every night on their right wing panel shows they discuss Abbott should be the leader.
 
up_all_night said:
No, I hate Abbott more than Turnbull.

Turn on Sky News, almost every night on their right wing panel shows they discuss Abbott should be the leader.
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Abbott was awful. A good thing the senate was able to stop some of his more awful ideas.

Turnbull is just boring.
 
Isee said:
“a stunning betrayal of what Trump promised on his campaign trail, and that was to protect us by standing up to Wall Street. That is what the people who voted for him supported.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ank-act-executive-order-financial-regulations
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One thing to remember, just because there was a good intention before the legislation doesn't mean it is good.

It's like Obamacare. America has a crap public health system, there were 20 million with out coverage. Obamacare seeked to address this. However it's actually a shitty piece of legislation. Yet people here just assume it's good because of the intention.


With the Doff-Frank, here's what the Wall Street Journal was saying in 2015.

After Five Years, Dodd-Frank Is a Failure
The law has crushed small banks, restricted access to credit, and planted the seeds of financial instability.

Tuesday will mark five years since President Obama’s signing of the Dodd-Frank law, the most sweeping rewrite of the country’s financial laws since the New Deal. Mr. Obama told the country that the legislation would “lift our economy.” The statute itself declared that it would “end too big to fail” and “promote financial stability.”

None of that has come to pass. Too-big-to-fail institutions have not disappeared.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-five-years-dodd-frank-is-a-failure-1437342607

There's plenty more out there.

No idea what Trump will do, it'll probably be left to the Republican's which is worrying but the act of getting rid of this isn't automatically bad if it really did not address anything it was meant to and had some negative impacts.
 
reepbot said:
Abbott was awful. A good thing the senate was able to stop some of his more awful ideas.

Turnbull is just boring.
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What annoys me is that Turnbull had continued on the same policies. He gets rid of the more hilariously dumb ones like Knights and Dames but everything that matters is pretty much the same.


Everyone's going Turnbull should call out Trump, however he isn't because it'll bring more attention to the Abbott and now his era policies on Refugees.
 
up_all_night said:
One thing to remember, just because there was a good intention before the legislation doesn't mean it is good.

It's like Obamacare. America has a crap public health system, there were 20 million with out coverage. Obamacare seeked to address this. However it's actually a shitty piece of legislation. Yet people here just assume it's good because of the intention.


With the Doff-Frank, here's what the Wall Street Journal was saying in 2015.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-five-years-dodd-frank-is-a-failure-1437342607

There's plenty more out there.

No idea what Trump will do, it'll probably be left to the Republican's which is worrying but the act of getting rid of this isn't automatically bad if it really did not address anything it was meant to and had some negative impacts.
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So it is best to hold off criticism in regards to this until we know the full details of what Trump and the Republicans will do?
 
up_all_night said:
What annoys me is that Turnbull had continued on the same policies. He gets rid of the more hilariously dumb ones like Knights and Dames but everything that matters is pretty much the same.


Everyone's going Turnbull should call out Trump, however he isn't because it'll bring more attention to the Abbott and now his era policies on Refugees.
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Bloody Liberals, ruing our country.
 
up_all_night said:
One thing to remember, just because there was a good intention before the legislation doesn't mean it is good.

It's like Obamacare. America has a crap public health system, there were 20 million with out coverage. Obamacare seeked to address this. However it's actually a shitty piece of legislation. Yet people here just assume it's good because of the intention.


With the Doff-Frank, here's what the Wall Street Journal was saying in 2015.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-five-years-dodd-frank-is-a-failure-1437342607

There's plenty more out there.

No idea what Trump will do, it'll probably be left to the Republican's which is worrying but the act of getting rid of this isn't automatically bad if it really did not address anything it was meant to and had some negative impacts.
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Decisions made without thorough due consideration is what is concerning me the most at the moment. I am sure aspects of Obamacare or the Dodd Frank worked and some didn't, but there is no point in throwing out the whole thing with no replacement, or even a process in place to come up with a better solution.

The Muslim ban is an example of this. Trumps people are having to scramble to make up the rules as they go along...dual passports...what happens? Oh there is an arrangement with Australia... how will we manage that? What about the unanticipated consequences to businesses, with Emirates and other airlines having to change the staff that flies to America, or the Australian student who can now no longer accept their scholarship to an american collage. Should there be exceptions? if so how is that process run?

Poor planning will make it very hard for Trump to MAGA. If there is thought and a better solution developed to replace things that aren't working then I suspect/hope that will gain respect from the American public and world
 
reepbot said:
So it is best to hold off criticism in regards to this until we know the full details of what Trump and the Republicans will do?
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No, but a lot of people criticise and automatically just assume everything is bad and or unprecedented.

It probably will bad but it serves little purpose getting into hysterics for the sake of it.
 
up_all_night said:
No, but a lot of people criticise and automatically just assume everything is bad and or unprecedented.

It probably will bad but it serves little purpose getting into hysterics for the sake of it.
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It seems that one of Trump's talents is turning normally sane people into hysterical puddles of crazy.

The media are desperate to destroy Trump.
 
Isee said:
Decisions made without thorough due consideration is what is concerning me the most at the moment. I am sure aspects of Obamacare or the Dodd Frank worked and some didn't, but there is no point in throwing out the whole thing with no replacement, or even a process in place to come up with a better solution.

The Muslim ban is an example of this. Trumps people are having to scramble to make up the rules as they go along...dual passports...what happens? Oh there is an arrangement with Australia... how will we manage that? What about the unanticipated consequences to businesses, with Emirates and other airlines having to change the staff that flies to America, or the Australian student who can now no longer accept their scholarship to an american collage. Should there be exceptions? if so how is that process run?

Poor planning will make it very hard for Trump to MAGA. If there is thought and a better solution developed to replace things that aren't working then I suspect/hope that will gain respect from the American public and world
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I enjoy the impulsiveness of Trump's presidency. It is exciting and reminds me of me.
 
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