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the book 1984

George Orwell would be utterly opposed to people like left-ardian fabian socialist Emily lister Julia Gillard and KRudd and Bob Brown / Christine Milne and their greenazi party.

Anyhoo, here are some quotes.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot. - George Orwell

As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents.

The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history. (heh ... hi youknowwhoyouare ! ;) :p)

Big Brother is watching you. - George Orwell

regarDS
 
That's coz you've prolly chosen to be part of the problem rather than the solution and are supping with the pigs at their table rather than being out in the farm yard doing the Real Work. :D

keke eh ?

Is that anything to do with this ?

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regarDS

No, I'm Josef Stalin's mother.
 
they are wrong that bb isnt based on 1984 it sure is the whole concept comes from the book not everything of course but the idea did

The book is about a dystopian regime that has executive power not only over life and death but reality and unreality. The show has none of this.
 
Orwell, and a group of authors about that time were very prophetic, and quite grim....

You have to read Animal Farm too; and then read Huxley's Brave New World; some Camus and some Kafka, the cockroach story- and top it off with Sartre & Existentialism.
 
beware the savage lure of 1984

I think that you are confusing two books.

Yeah, the Wild Turkey might have had a bit to do with that.

To make amends and so no one else need be confused, here's a link to the full "Animal Farm" movie wot I was referring to:

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and here's a link to the full 1956 version of "1984"

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and here's an aged song on the topic

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regarDS
 
Yeah, the Wild Turkey might have had a bit to do with that.

To make amends and so no one else need be confused, here's a link to the full "Animal Farm" movie wot I was referring to:

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and here's a link to the full 1956 version of "1984"

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and here's an aged song on the topic

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regarDS

READ, the books are far superior
 
Surely you're not serious?

If they want to base the show on the book then these elements are necessary. Conversely, any reality show that does not contain endemic poverty, torture and executions is not based on the book.

Terror is hard to fake in a reality show.
 
I'm really surprised in all the years of BB that Room 101 was never incorporated in to the concept... BBUK did use it during one of their tasks in BB6 but tbh it never really embodied the 1984 definition...

For those who are unaware Room 101 is a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love in which the Party attempts to subject a prisoner to his or her own worst nightmare, fear or phobia....

Reworking it in to the context of Big Brother, Room 101 essentially a task room... Completed tasks will always come with a reward and may have consequences attached... Similar to I'm a Celebrity... the public will vote for whom they want to face Room 101... Rewards may also carry some sort of moral dilemma in which a HM may choose an individual reward (this reward may vary and could include something game related like immunity or veto power) or a group reward... If rewarded individually the rest of the group are punished or deprived of something or if the group are rewarded the individual is punished... Essentially this room should be a place that comes with great reward but also a place HM's fear...
 
If they want to base the show on the book then these elements are necessary. Conversely, any reality show that does not contain endemic poverty, torture and executions is not based on the book.

Terror is hard to fake in a reality show.

Keke, we are going to have to agree to disagree, IMHO, the book was primarily about an entity watching every move every citizen made and indoctrinating them into a herd mind set, that did not question the authority of Big Brother and built a soci-political and cultural structure around Big Brother's omnipresence. This is the basic premise of the show for me, Big Brother knows all and is watching 24/7.
 
Big Brother as a concept/phrase/political meaning, is acknowledged worldwide as Orwell's prophecy and what governments are doing with CCTV etc.........and this show acknowledges the term and concept is creatively Orwell's.
It's not up to keke or our opinion, it's a matter of fact.
 
Keke, we are going to have to agree to disagree, IMHO, the book was primarily about an entity watching every move every citizen made and indoctrinating them into a herd mind set, that did not question the authority of Big Brother and built a soci-political and cultural structure around Big Brother's omnipresence. This is the basic premise of the show for me, Big Brother knows all and is watching 24/7.

Well, the show doesn't even follow your watered down appreciation of book. Where is the ideology? Where is the indoctrination? Where is the herd mindset?
 
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