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I don't think David is all bad, in the end I think that he didn't get her and she didn't get him. No biggie. Not everyone is a match.
He showed though that he's used to not having to try very hard to get women, and his actions when he didn't get a rose were a bit petulant. I don't think he deserves ongoing hate from people though.

Agree. IMO he was specifically cast for that role. He might be a dick but it wouldn't surprise me if it was played up either. Unlike Michael he doesn't seem to have much game...although it's hard to tell if he didn't have any or he just struggled because he and Sam clearly weren't on the same wavelength. He came across as awkward to me more than anything.
 
Ryan last bb winner has said that Sam has a fiery side and when first met her, had an argument with her. Maybe she does get defensive a little bit.
 
True. But in this case, I'm starting to think Sam will make her mind up about someone and anything they say will be taken defensively. I did think she misconstrued David's words when they were on the cliff and I think she had already made up her mind about him. So using ryan as an example I just think it's not that David was the complete dick I suppose, though the way he handled the rose ceremony was completely a dick move, entertaining all the same though
 
Just reminiscing some of Sam's finest unmaterialistic charity work, I mean VIP pool party :p

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Please explain??
 
David's comments were misinterpeted by Sam - even when he was scared of jumping off the cliff in his suffocating wetsuit, she couldn't grasp that he was being gallant by saying he'd gear himself up to do it, despite his fear, by imagining she was in there drowning and he was therefore leaping in to save her. I mean the woman is not bright.

He made some ill-timed and ill-advised comments and thought she'd enjoy his spirit, and daring, the poor fellow. It was all a mess. But it was no more of a mess than the revolting comments made by Davey Girlfriend Boy, who redeemed himself by spouting the right thing.

I also think his observations, though rude and untimely, were spot on. She's the sort who goes to the opening of an envelope, as proven post-Blake, and would love to be at the Brownlow medals or the Logies, or whatever it is the press photograph all the wags in their tacky expensive gowns.
never saw her at any of those things before the Bachelor though ... unlike say Lana who goes to them with her friend Laura ... and a lot of the things she went to were part and parcel of the post-Bachelor event merry-go-round the women were doing ...
and seriously? if people are going to hand you an invite, give you pretty clothes to wear, get your hair & makeup sorted, limousine transfers etc etc - as a single woman would you be turning it down?
if David didn't want to be judged - neither should Sam be

should we turn on Heather now because SHE went to an event?
 
never saw her at any of those things before the Bachelor though ... unlike say Lana who goes to them with her friend Laura ... and a lot of the things she went to were part and parcel of the post-Bachelor event merry-go-round the women were doing ...
and seriously? if people are going to hand you an invite, give you pretty clothes to wear, get your hair & makeup sorted, limousine transfers etc etc - as a single woman would you be turning it down?
if David didn't want to be judged - neither should Sam be

should we turn on Heather now because SHE went to an event?

I'm sorry, who is 'turning on Sam'??? I never much liked her, I said so in the previous Bachelor thread when she was in the final four. I have expressed disappointment it was Sam Frost who was chosen as the B'ette. I have also said I am liking her more in this role.

She's still a dull girl, to my mind, but I am enjoying watching her series, and I do wish her well. I'm not really sure what you're getting so het up about. Are we not allowed to criticise her at all?
 
I'm sorry, who is 'turning on Sam'??? I never much liked her, I said so in the previous Bachelor thread when she was in the final four. I have expressed disappointment it was Sam Frost who was chosen as the B'ette. I have also said I am liking her more in this role.

She's still a dull girl, to my mind, but I am enjoying watching her series, and I do wish her well. I'm not really sure what you're getting so het up about. Are we not allowed to criticise her at all?
it was a rhetorical question and the "we" was a general pronoun to encompass everyone not just specific people

its a discussion - NOT an argument :) you labelled her as "the sort who goes to the opening of an envelope" - but they all get on the merrygoround of invites and freebies when first out of the show these days ... THAT was my point - I don't think she deserves to be criticised or labelled as "the sort who ..." and I wanted to explain why I though that

I think she deserves to be given a clean slate for her new start ... that's why I was disappointed when Ep2 again started with the deep in thought looking back to last year stuff ... they should let her move forward and not keep bringing that up
 
I'm sorry, who is 'turning on Sam'??? I never much liked her, I said so in the previous Bachelor thread when she was in the final four. I have expressed disappointment it was Sam Frost who was chosen as the B'ette. I have also said I am liking her more in this role.

She's still a dull girl, to my mind, but I am enjoying watching her series, and I do wish her well. I'm not really sure what you're getting so het up about. Are we not allowed to criticise her at all?
Who was your favourite that year?
So far nobody compares to my Lisa!
 
So you don't have a type? Or some personality traits that you'd like your future girlfriend to possess? If not then you'd probably be one of the only ones. More often than not the person you find is liked for themselves and not because they possess everything on the list but it definitely isn't an uncommon thing. Be honest now ;)



He didn't spend time away with her though. It was like 2 days or something. He shouldn't have proposed (I don't think any of them should until spending time together outside) just for show. You make pretty broad assumptions based on tabloids lol.. oh and the fact she's part of the gender who broke your little heart ;) :whistling:


He was, he came in with a clean slate. Just because I don't think he's perfect doesn't mean I think he's at the opposite spectrum either, and just because there have been comments on certain actions doesn't mean that sample should be extrapolated to the whole of his existence. Put away your tiny violin ;)



Well it wasn't, I was talking about a rag. Misquoting hmmm... do you work for the Daily Mail? ;) :p



lol your lack of relevant knowledge of the subject matter is duly noted ;)



Believe or not my opinion on reality show contestants ( female and male) has no bearing on my actual views I have of people of all sexes I come across in real life. :) They are very different kettle of fish. For starters they don't tend to be extroverted attention seeking dimwits willing to forgo their dignity in search for a few minutes of fame. :facepalm: On the contrary they're usually well adjusted individuals with at least a modicum of self respect which rules out ever applying for shows like 'the bachelor'. :shamefully:

So please don't mistake comments I make on either sex (but particularly females since that seems to arc up the posters in here the most ) as my perception of people in general.

You could argue that I have a low opinion of the majority of reality contestants (with a few exceptions), especially dating shows where a bunch of women have no qualms in immediately competing with each other over a bloke they've never previously met. :wideyed:

It just sets a new low as far as I'm concerned and I make no apologies for stating my contempt for those (again male and female) participating in such a show. :pompus:

But to reiterate that in no way extends to how I perceive the average normal person who stays away from these exploitative shows. :angelic:

Nice try though. :thumbsup:
 
it was a rhetorical question and the "we" was a general pronoun to encompass everyone not just specific people

its a discussion - NOT an argument :) you labelled her as "the sort who goes to the opening of an envelope" - but they all get on the merrygoround of invites and freebies when first out of the show these days ... THAT was my point - I don't think she deserves to be criticised or labelled as "the sort who ..." and I wanted to explain why I though that

I think she deserves to be given a clean slate for her new start ... that's why I was disappointed when Ep2 again started with the deep in thought looking back to last year stuff ... they should let her move forward and not keep bringing that up

Technically it is an argument as you are both coming to different conclusions from what you have observed on the show.
 
Believe or not my opinion on reality show contestants ( female and male) has no bearing on my actual views I have of people of all sexes I come across in real life. :) They are very different kettle of fish. For starters they don't tend to be extroverted attention seeking dimwits willing to forego their dignity in search for a few minutes of fame. :facepalm: On the contrary they're usually well adjusted individuals with at least a modicum of self respect which rules out ever applying for shows like 'the bachelor'. :shamefully:

So please don't mistake comments I make on either sex (but particularly females since that seems to arc up the posters in here the most ) as my perception of people in general.

You could argue that I have a low opinion of the majority of reality contestants (with a few exceptions), especially dating shows where a bunch of women have no qualms in immediately competing with each other over a bloke they've never previously met. :wideyed:

It just sets a new low as far as I'm concerned and I make no apologies for stating my contempt for those (again male and female) participating in such a show. :pompus:

But to reiterate that in no way extends to how I perceive the average normal person who stays away from these exploitative shows. :angelic:

Nice try though. :thumbsup:

Haha I get it. The Bachelor/Bachelorette concept is an acquired taste. While I would never dream of going on something like that (and when I see it I'm actually thankful I don't have to be out there looking), I find it extremely entertaining to watch. I can definitely understand that some people wouldn't get drawn in to care about the contestants on the show. My husband laughs at me and tells me it's all a load of crap when he finds out I watch much less participate on a forum at the same time. I love it all haha.
 
Haha I get it. The Bachelor/Bachelorette concept is an acquired taste. While I would never dream of going on something like that (and when I see it I'm actually thankful I don't have to be out there looking), I find it extremely entertaining to watch. I can definitely understand that some people wouldn't get drawn in to care about the contestants on the show. My husband laughs at me and tells me it's all a load of crap when he finds out I watch much less participate on a forum at the same time. I love it all haha.
yep my husband laughs and rolls his eyes as well ... but he still turns up to sit on couch and watch it each week ;)
 
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